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****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/30/20 THREAD 1**** (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 OP
What lies will we hear today ??? SamKnause Jan 2020 #1
You are welcome BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #2
Neal Katyal: Ask yourself one question. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2020 #3
He's right on the money! BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #4
McCaskill just called Dershowitz "Mr. Underwear" IcyPeas Jan 2020 #5
Yup... I loved it. hlthe2b Jan 2020 #7
Senate chamber has turned on their cameras BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #6
which feed? Kali Jan 2020 #8
I think they all use the same feed (I am watching TV - CSPAN2) BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #10
it's working now Kali Jan 2020 #12
I think CSPAN2 doesn't actually "turn on the stream" BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #22
***IN SESSION - BENEDICTION*** BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #9
Thanks, BumRushDaShow! Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #11
You are welcome BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #15
it is really appreciated bdamomma Jan 2020 #50
Adding to the thank-yous! nt crickets Jan 2020 #81
***Deputy Sergeant of Arms - PROCLAMATION*** BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #13
Thanks so much for doing this for us. It is much appreciated. Arkansas Granny Jan 2020 #14
BumRush, you are a jewel of great price. Thank you irisblue Jan 2020 #16
Q. Patty Murray for House Managers - Wants the House Managers to elaborate on the issue of subpoenas BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #17
Lofgren dissecting WH attempt to invalidate House power to subpoena Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #18
Lofgren response - showing slide of House Rules from January 9 that delegated subpoena power to BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #19
Slide: Rules of the House of Representatives - dated with cover page from January 11, 2019 Mersky Jan 2020 #20
Lofgren: president refused to comply before, and after House vote -- obstruction Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #21
And I remember Schiff at the outset saying refusing to testify Roland99 Jan 2020 #27
Schiff suggested, yesterday, Senate should make "adverse inferences" ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #33
Paul sending question... backtoblue Jan 2020 #23
KY's embarassment, R Paul, now asks about whistleblower. CJ refuses! Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #24
! Kali Jan 2020 #28
And it was refused... backtoblue Jan 2020 #25
Chief Justice declined to read the question as submitted by GOP BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #26
Yes, it was a question from Rand Paul. Wednesdays Jan 2020 #32
Was hoping Roberts would be a bit more than a potted plant BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #35
VIDEO CLIP of the moment Mersky Jan 2020 #100
Where is Rand Paul's neighbor? I think it is time for another ass whooping irisblue Jan 2020 #29
He did it! Roberts flexed! blogslut Jan 2020 #30
Presiding Officer declines to read (rand paul's) the question. elleng Jan 2020 #31
Jason Crow: tremendous amount of information, witnesses, documents, out there Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #34
Crow now responding to Baldwin (D-WI) Mersky Jan 2020 #36
Slide: Ukraine Knew About the Hold Early On Mersky Jan 2020 #37
McSally et.al. Q: effect on democracy of removal before 2020 election? Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #38
Answer..the same effect on Democracy when Arizona removes YOU McSalley asiliveandbreathe Jan 2020 #73
Q. (Toomey, et al) - regarding the nonsense of "overturning the election" BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #39
Sekulow deflects -- rush of House, didn't do their investigation, blah blah Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #40
Q. Tester (D-MT) - Is there a limit to quid pro quo when a President is using for personal gain BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #41
Tester Q about Dersh's theory about any quid pro quo by pres OK Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #42
Schiff - response - Descent into Constitutional madness BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #43
Descent into Constitutional madness. elleng Jan 2020 #44
Schiff: their argument is one of desperation -- argument when your client is guilty Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #45
Schiff - comparing to Nixon - "if the President does it, it's not illegal" BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #46
Boom! and Nixon sounded like such a fool when he said it. nt crickets Jan 2020 #84
Schiff - "Normalization of lawlessness" BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #47
ABC showing Sen Tester pic and question onscreen beside live of Schiff Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #48
Question from Tester (D-MT) to House Managers Mersky Jan 2020 #49
Kramer Q is a pity-me question Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #51
Philbin whining about pres not giving up his rights to House Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #52
Someone tell Philbin to exit stage right. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #53
Jones from AL Q: for House, which rules authorize House comms to subpoena Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #54
Q. To House managers - To go over the subpoena authorization and list those sent after H.Res. 660 BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #55
Schiff: lists subpoenas after full House vote Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #56
And revisits this slide: Rules of the House of Representatives Mersky Jan 2020 #59
Thanks! I didn't have time to read that! Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #60
Yw! Mersky Jan 2020 #76
Schiff listed the subpoenas that were sent after passage of H.Res. 660 BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #57
Here's the list of names: Mersky Jan 2020 #71
Thank you! BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #74
No, thank you! Mersky Jan 2020 #78
Schiff: House Rule 10, shows slide with specific paragraphs of rule Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #58
Q. Ted Cruz -Bullshit about Bidens BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #61
Bondi: Biden! Burisma! Money! Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #62
shut her up!!! elleng Jan 2020 #66
How much money bdamomma Jan 2020 #63
Time for some zombie Burisma squirrels Mersky Jan 2020 #64
oh boy Kali Jan 2020 #65
When will they get Mossfern Jan 2020 #67
This is a campaign TV commercial for free underpants Jan 2020 #90
Approximately... maxsolomon Jan 2020 #91
Future Supreme Court Justice Bondi tishaLA Jan 2020 #68
! Kali Jan 2020 #86
this Pam Bondi? IcyPeas Jan 2020 #89
This should have its own thread! Wednesdays Jan 2020 #101
Bondi bullshit response for teevee BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #69
Did she get it right this time? underpants Jan 2020 #96
Eric trump brother in law IcyPeas Jan 2020 #70
Demmings taking the trial back to the point BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #72
Val Demings is on fire! Arkansas Granny Jan 2020 #75
dammit I missed her! had to run outside for stuff. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #79
GMTA - we had the exact same reaction! nt crickets Jan 2020 #88
Val Demings is on fire! crickets Jan 2020 #77
Crow: consequences - alliances will fray, American handshake doesn't matter Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #80
Crow: showing "Evolution of Solicitation", damning clips of Trump Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #82
Q. Jacky Rosen (D-NV) - Tried to make a case of a President putting personal interests BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #83
Jason Crow has been laying out the details of national security dangers BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #85
VIDEO CLIP: EVOLUTION IN SOLICITATION Mersky Jan 2020 #87
Q (GOP) - Whining question about impeachment and abuse of power BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #92
In the montage of video just shown by Crow, in the one where George S. asked in2herbs Jan 2020 #93
Philbin regurgitating their fictional version of the Constitution and impeachment BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #94
****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/30/20 THREAD 2**** UP BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #95
House Intelligence twitter and Wonkette live blog crickets Jan 2020 #97
Jeffries: "This is not a banana republic!" Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #98
Hakeem Jeffries crickets Jan 2020 #99

SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
1. What lies will we hear today ???
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:34 PM
Jan 2020

Thanks for all your hard work BumRushDaShow.

We are gluttons for punishment.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
3. Neal Katyal: Ask yourself one question.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:40 PM
Jan 2020
Kevin M. Kruse Retweeted

Ask yourself 1 question: in a world where
1) 75% of Americans want to hear witnesses,
2) President’s own top guy John Bolton says he’s got impt info showing Trump lying, AND
3) Senate controlled by Rs AND
4) needs 2/3 vote to convict, why are Trump and Rs so afraid of witnesses?


hlthe2b

(102,142 posts)
7. Yup... I loved it.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:00 PM
Jan 2020

Dersh is not deserving of any respect. Harvard should pull his emeritus status.

BumRushDaShow

(128,540 posts)
10. I think they all use the same feed (I am watching TV - CSPAN2)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:06 PM
Jan 2020

(just as a note - from what I understand, the CSPAN2 stream doesn't actually start until they are underway)

BumRushDaShow

(128,540 posts)
22. I think CSPAN2 doesn't actually "turn on the stream"
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:14 PM
Jan 2020

until they start gaveling in, so it wasn't you!

bdamomma

(63,803 posts)
50. it is really appreciated
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:31 PM
Jan 2020

that you are doing this for us.

I was so upset last night with those so called lawyers.

BumRushDaShow

(128,540 posts)
19. Lofgren response - showing slide of House Rules from January 9 that delegated subpoena power to
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:11 PM
Jan 2020

Committees.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
20. Slide: Rules of the House of Representatives - dated with cover page from January 11, 2019
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:12 PM
Jan 2020

Power to sit and act; subpoena power
(m) (1) For the purpose of carrying out any of its functions and duties under this rule and rule X (Including any matters referred to it under clause 2 of rule XII), a committee or sub-committee is authorized (subject to sub paragraph (3) (A))

(B) to require by subpoena or otherwise, the attendance and testimony of such witnesses and the production of such books, records, correspondence, memoranda, papers, and documents as it considers necessary

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
27. And I remember Schiff at the outset saying refusing to testify
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:16 PM
Jan 2020

or blocking subpoenas using the courts would be treated as evidence of obstruction of justice

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,271 posts)
33. Schiff suggested, yesterday, Senate should make "adverse inferences" ...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:19 PM
Jan 2020

Just as in any trial before a judge, the Senate should make adverse inferences about the accused withholding information.

irisblue

(32,933 posts)
29. Where is Rand Paul's neighbor? I think it is time for another ass whooping
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:16 PM
Jan 2020

BTW, fuck Ron Paul and his evil spawn Rand.

CJ Roberts knew this was coming.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
36. Crow now responding to Baldwin (D-WI)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:21 PM
Jan 2020

Since the WH counsel could not answer Sen. Romney’s question about the exact date of the release of Ukraine military aid, what witness or witnesses can answer that question?

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
37. Slide: Ukraine Knew About the Hold Early On
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:21 PM
Jan 2020

July 25 - Ex-Top Kyiv Official: “We had this information”

Week of July 25 - Cooper: Two emails that Ukraine Embassy Asking about aid

July - Croft: Overtures from Ukraine about aid

Mid-Aug - Lt Col Vindman: Recieves light inquiries from Ukraine re hold

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
73. Answer..the same effect on Democracy when Arizona removes YOU McSalley
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:48 PM
Jan 2020

in 2020..DEMOCRACY SAVED...

Mark Kelly will be the rumba....

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
49. Question from Tester (D-MT) to House Managers
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:31 PM
Jan 2020

Is there any limit to the scope of quid pro quo a pResident can engage in with a foreign entity, as long as the pResident believes he is acting in the country’s best interest?


___
Per MSNBC

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
59. And revisits this slide: Rules of the House of Representatives
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:40 PM
Jan 2020

Slide: Rules of the House of Representatives
Dated January 11, 2019

Power to sit and act; subpoena power
(m) (1) For the purpose of carrying out any of its functions and duties under this rule and rule X (Including any matters referred to it under clause 2 of rule XII), a committee or sub-committee is authorized (subject to sub paragraph (3) (A))

(B) to require by subpoena or otherwise, the attendance and testimony of such witnesses and the production of such books, records, correspondence, memoranda, papers, and documents as it considers necessary

BumRushDaShow

(128,540 posts)
57. Schiff listed the subpoenas that were sent after passage of H.Res. 660
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:37 PM
Jan 2020

Also showed the slide Lofgren showed with a copy of the House Rules indicating the delegation of subpoena authority to the Committees.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
71. Here's the list of names:
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:48 PM
Jan 2020

John Eisenberg, Brian McCormick, Robert Blair, Micheal Ellis, Preston Griffith, and mick mulvaney


____
Pulled the list from the transcript at CSPAN: https://www.c-span.org/video/?468707-1/senate-impeachment-trial-day-10

bdamomma

(63,803 posts)
63. How much money
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:43 PM
Jan 2020

are those bastard lawyers getting to lie for tRump and lie to the American People. sickening they are destroying our country.

underpants

(182,634 posts)
90. This is a campaign TV commercial for free
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:58 PM
Jan 2020

with the serious Senate background so viewers think he really was on trial or at least it looks official.

Remember when Clinton denied having sexual relations in the White House Map room it was cropped around his head. The talking point was that he lied to Congress, as if he was testifying, and a lot of people still believe he was.

underpants

(182,634 posts)
96. Did she get it right this time?
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:00 PM
Jan 2020

or was she saying “Um” while flipping through pages in the notebook and flipping her hair like yesterday?

She supposed to the Biden Baurisma expert. He’ll you and I know their fake timeline by now.

IcyPeas

(21,842 posts)
70. Eric trump brother in law
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:47 PM
Jan 2020
Donald Trump promoted his son’s brother-in-law, Kyle Yunaska, to oversee an Energy Department office that is apparently dismantling some of former President Barack Obama’s climate change initiatives. We’re not sure why Kyle was elevated to the position in 2017, except that he is Lara Trump’s brother. Lara, of course, is Eric Trump’s wife and works on her father-in-law’s re-election campaign.



https://politicaltribune.org/eric-trumps-brother-in-law-was-apparently-given-chief-of-staff-position-at-energy-department/

crickets

(25,952 posts)
77. Val Demings is on fire!
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:50 PM
Jan 2020

It's a shame she didn't quite finish, but her points were fantastic:

Call Bolton as a witness to clear up any questions

This is about cheating in an upcoming election, threatening the votes of all citizens

Take your responsibilities here seriously

BumRushDaShow

(128,540 posts)
83. Q. Jacky Rosen (D-NV) - Tried to make a case of a President putting personal interests
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:54 PM
Jan 2020

above national. What is the potential precedent for future Presidents?

in2herbs

(2,944 posts)
93. In the montage of video just shown by Crow, in the one where George S. asked
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:00 PM
Jan 2020

trump about accepting information on a candidate trump said he'd like to hear it but he also said he'd report it to the FBI.

Subpoena the person in the FBI who received trump's report.

crickets

(25,952 posts)
99. Hakeem Jeffries
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:05 PM
Jan 2020

"This is not a banana republic!"

Abuse of power, betrayal of the oath of office, and corruption of elections with foreign interference are at the heart of Constitutional reasons for impeachment and removal.

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