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****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/30/20 THREAD 2**** (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 OP
WH Counsel Philbin concluding his bullshit about impeachment. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #1
I think having Dershbag and Bondi is their idea of showing diversity underpants Jan 2020 #3
Link repost because I am forever missing the thread cutoff, lol crickets Jan 2020 #2
Q. Sherrod Brown (+Wyden) - WH failed to give an adequate response that a foreign country BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #4
Jeffries - response that this is wrong. This is not a banana republic. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #5
OT: my connection really sucks today. can't keep up. reading mostly. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #6
I'm glad someone said the words 'banana republic' out loud today. nt crickets Jan 2020 #7
Q. Hawley/Lee - Courts have ruled that it is not unlawful for a public officer to condition BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #8
Philbin trying to equate corrupt quid pro quo of trump to normal foreign negotiations Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #9
Philbin is trying to twist a court case to somehow fit this situation BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #10
Demings: Sondland said everyone in loop; email; "Senate should subpoena State Dept. emails" Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #11
Q. Cantwell - Ukraine scheme was expansive. Any evidence that Mulvaney, Pompeo, Barr, BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #12
Demmings has the slide up showing all the people "in the loop" BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #13
Slide: SENATE SHOULD SUBPOENA STATE DEPT. EMAILS Mersky Jan 2020 #94
Demings: Barr was concerned pres abusing power of office; we should subpoena! Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #14
Cipollone says Senate should take partisanship into account. [BULL. party is in the loop] Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #15
Cippy somehow leaps to "if you're going to tear up the ballots" Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #16
Q. Quoting Pelosi about her statements regarding impeachment and doing it for compelling reason BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #17
split question -- 2.5 minutes each side to answer Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #18
Cippycup was told to wake up their defense BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #19
Schiff: "I don't know who is paying Rudy Giuliani's fees" Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #20
Q. Reed (et al) Who has paid for Ghouliani's legal fees and travel if President has not? BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #21
Schiff: "The whole country is paying the freight for it" Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #22
Schiff - Who knows who is paying him? He is not part of the government. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #23
Sekulow deflects, never gets to who is paying Rudy's travels and fees Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #24
secky got 'mean.' elleng Jan 2020 #25
Suckylow refuses to answer who is paying Ghouliani. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #26
Philbin no national security risk by timing of funds to Ukraine Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #27
+1, he's not even sophistry he's gone to straight lying. uponit7771 Jan 2020 #31
Sekulow DESPERATELY needs a punch in the face. n/t Still In Wisconsin Jan 2020 #28
Philbin lies so much as to make his statements useless as learning. He's quit sophistry and gone to uponit7771 Jan 2020 #29
Q. Bogus about release of funds and comparing to other years BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #30
this is distractionn; they know risk came from undermining Zelensky's negotiations w/Putin Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #32
Philbin - has finally mumbled about having to go to Congress to FIX the mess BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #33
somebody tell Cha that Maize's asking a question! Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #34
Schiff: "you can't make this stuff up"; DOJ in court today -- impeachment is answer Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #35
Adam Schiff provides same day/hour/moment evidence of BAD FAITH. elleng Jan 2020 #36
Schiff - If Congress cannot enforce subpoenas, what recourse do they have? crickets Jan 2020 #37
Q. Hirono - Quote of Mulvaney about "we do it all the time, get over it" with respect to Presidents BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #38
Schiff explains difference with other freezes: passed all criteria to be released Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #39
Schiff - noting how their subpoena is in court right now and while the WH lawyers BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #40
Adam Schiff is doing his country proud today. He's amazing. nt crickets Jan 2020 #43
Here's a clip of that: "YOU CANNOT MAKE THIS UP" Mersky Jan 2020 #48
I like ABC showing question during answer -- helps check if they are answering or deflecting Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #41
Just read that Rand Paul left the chamber and disclosed the whistleblower's name to cameras. better Jan 2020 #42
He needs to be arrested. gademocrat7 Jan 2020 #44
I read he has been doing that for weeks. Kali Jan 2020 #46
He also tweeted it. luvs2sing Jan 2020 #47
damned liars! Q is to WH lawyers about why House denied Repugs access in House! Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #45
the Q is based on the lie that Rs were excluded ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #49
imo, every answer by a House manager should argue for Senate witnesses, docs Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #50
Schiff quotes Barr who disagrees with WH theory of defense Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #51
Schiff: "The Constitution is not a suicide pact" Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #52
A Democratic Senator should ask the President's lawyers to read the oath the Senate took. dem4decades Jan 2020 #53
+1 crickets Jan 2020 #55
+53 Roland99 Jan 2020 #62
Hershmann (WH side) lies: House doesn't want voters to decide Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #54
Herschmann: "He's so popular! So what if he broke the law." Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2020 #56
Schiff - the president is dangerous and the framers provided a remedy. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #57
It's another campaign rally? eleny Jan 2020 #58
Herschmann now bragging on trump. wtf does that have to do with abuse of power to cheat? Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #59
Free campaign ad BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #60
all the deflections and distractions still make me mad! I should know better. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #63
What holy hell is this mess from Herschmann? Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2020 #61
It did have a command performance feel to it, didn't it? Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2020 #65
Herschmann was really grasping. He's got nothin'. Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2020 #64
On Monday he had a truly odd presentation underpants Jan 2020 #69
Nadler: "It means a claim of monarchical, dictatorial powers!" Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #66
Nadler is responding to the question Mersky Jan 2020 #67
it is still a battle of facts and logic versus deflection and distraction Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #68
Don't forget condescension from WH managers. crickets Jan 2020 #71
Q. Graham et al - Same old same old process issue about the impeachment BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #70
And Philbin says the process was bogus "from the start to the beginning" BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #73
Philbin still claiming House can't make its own rules. disingenuous asshole. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #72
Heh... Roland99 Jan 2020 #74
We need to crank up the public volume on the call for witnesses! Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #76
Crow describing normal process for aid going to Ukraine; then differences this time Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #75
Collins: split q for both sides. any legitimate reason to request foreign investigation US citizen Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #77
Schiff: no way for pres to do that. there is legitimate process - State Dept, etc Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #78
Philbin denies trump asked for investigation of US citizen Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #79
OFFS Philbin is lying about what was even in their truncated call memo BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #80
LOFL !!! "...look into it ..." has NOTHING to with Biden ?!?! Philbin lies uponit7771 Jan 2020 #81
'Can you name a single document . . .???' elleng Jan 2020 #82
+1, the "both party" questions are kick ass Philbin has less chance to lie. uponit7771 Jan 2020 #86
NOTICE: Philbin is ... NOT ... answering the question that was asked uponit7771 Jan 2020 #83
Schumer Q - WH counsel did not answer the question about what items were turned over BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #84
Schumer drops bomb on WH counsel: name a single document or witness produced Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #85
Philbin has just hand-waved the subpoenas away as not valid. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #87
Has anyone made a case (even a BS case) for WHY they were invalid? Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2020 #93
Red Don's crew said the house didn't go through their own procedures properly in filing them ... uponit7771 Jan 2020 #95
And no one said "Mother may I?" Wow, that's out in the weeds. Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2020 #97
Schiff - Why did they refuse to turn over the documents? Because they are covering up. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #88
I wish I could program my tv to unmute and alert when Schiff is speaking-- hlthe2b Jan 2020 #89
Schiff: "You can ask John Bolton." Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #90
***RECESS UNTIL 4PM ET*** BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #91
ABC talking about Rand Paul's presser during trial, about whistleblower Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #92
Did they even speculate on any consequences? hlthe2b Jan 2020 #98
Not that I heard. ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #100
ABC, NBC, PBS -- Republican talkers; CBS regular programming Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #96
Thanks for this! Mersky Jan 2020 #101
****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/30/20 THREAD 3**** UP BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #99

underpants

(182,603 posts)
3. I think having Dershbag and Bondi is their idea of showing diversity
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:03 PM
Jan 2020

Really I think Bondi is really there in a Fox News blonde role.

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
4. Q. Sherrod Brown (+Wyden) - WH failed to give an adequate response that a foreign country
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:03 PM
Jan 2020

contribution to a campaign is a violation of law.

What might we expect now from other countries based on the argument that there is nothing wrong with foreign intervention in our election?

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
8. Q. Hawley/Lee - Courts have ruled that it is not unlawful for a public officer to condition
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:10 PM
Jan 2020

official acts on the acts by another public officer. How does this apply to the President?

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,249 posts)
9. Philbin trying to equate corrupt quid pro quo of trump to normal foreign negotiations
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:10 PM
Jan 2020

OT: takes over ten seconds for me to be able to type after clicking "reply" -- my connection takes that long just to display the OP. dunno what my ISP is doing today.

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
12. Q. Cantwell - Ukraine scheme was expansive. Any evidence that Mulvaney, Pompeo, Barr,
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:14 PM
Jan 2020

or anyone from the outside who were involved in withholding aid and obstruction of Congress?

Mersky

(4,979 posts)
94. Slide: SENATE SHOULD SUBPOENA STATE DEPT. EMAILS
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:43 PM
Jan 2020

Exhibit 4 - Friday, July 19, 2019
Email: Robert Blair, Lisa Kenna, Brian McCormack, mick mulvaney, rick Perry, mike pompeo, and Gordon Sondland

Subject: Re: I talked to Zelensky just now

15:28 Gordon Sondland: He is prepared to receive Potus’ call. Will assure him that he intends to run a fully transparent investigation and will “turn over every stone”. He would greatly appreciate a call prior to Sunday so that he can put out some media about a “friendly and productive call” (no details) prior to Ukraine election on Sunday.

21:30 Rick Perry (replying to McCormack and Sondland only): Mick just confirmed the call being set up for tomorrow by NSC.

RP

22:25 Mick Mulvaney (replying to all): I asked NSC to set it up for tomorrow

MM


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CSPAN clip: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4850962/user-clip-demings-reviews-subpoenas-needed

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
23. Schiff - Who knows who is paying him? He is not part of the government.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:25 PM
Jan 2020

This is the corrupt political errand.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
29. Philbin lies so much as to make his statements useless as learning. He's quit sophistry and gone to
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:29 PM
Jan 2020

... just trying to convince people water is dry.

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
30. Q. Bogus about release of funds and comparing to other years
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:30 PM
Jan 2020

(And the reason is those funds were DIRECTED to be spent in FY 2019... DUMB ASSES.)

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
33. Philbin - has finally mumbled about having to go to Congress to FIX the mess
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:31 PM
Jan 2020

(and THAT is the problem. They waited too late.)

crickets

(25,952 posts)
37. Schiff - If Congress cannot enforce subpoenas, what recourse do they have?
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:37 PM
Jan 2020

Answer from DOJ in court down the street today: impeachment.

*laughter*

Wow.

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
38. Q. Hirono - Quote of Mulvaney about "we do it all the time, get over it" with respect to Presidents
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:37 PM
Jan 2020

doing thing for personal gain. Is there any other precedent of this?

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
40. Schiff - noting how their subpoena is in court right now and while the WH lawyers
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:39 PM
Jan 2020

in the impeachment trial demand they go to court to enforce, the DOJ is in court right now telling the House that they can't go to court for subpoena enforcement. The judge asked DOJ what was the remedy and the DOJ said - "impeachment".

(and the chamber broke out in laughter)

better

(884 posts)
42. Just read that Rand Paul left the chamber and disclosed the whistleblower's name to cameras.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:45 PM
Jan 2020

I sure hope one of the Dems brings that up.
And Senator Paul should be arrested. Right now.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,249 posts)
49. the Q is based on the lie that Rs were excluded ...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:56 PM
Jan 2020

Besides basing the question on a lie, the question is directed to WH counsel even though it is asking why the House did this. Even if the lie were true, only the House could explain their reasons.

dem4decades

(11,269 posts)
53. A Democratic Senator should ask the President's lawyers to read the oath the Senate took.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:03 PM
Jan 2020

And ask them what it means to be an impartial juror.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,153 posts)
61. What holy hell is this mess from Herschmann?
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:08 PM
Jan 2020

Is he doing some sort of campaign ad for Trump in the middle of an Impeachment Trial?

I guarantee you Trump gave him this script.

underpants

(182,603 posts)
69. On Monday he had a truly odd presentation
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:15 PM
Jan 2020

He claimed that Obama’s hot mic with Medvedev was a quid pro quo and an impeachable offense.

Mersky

(4,979 posts)
67. Nadler is responding to the question
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:13 PM
Jan 2020

If the Senate accepts the pResident’s blanket assertion of privilege, what are the consequences to the American people?

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
73. And Philbin says the process was bogus "from the start to the beginning"
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:17 PM
Jan 2020

Yup you're right idiot. That describes your team's arguments.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
74. Heh...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:22 PM
Jan 2020



Thank you, Patrick Philbin, for that outstanding argument in support of a vote to call witnesses in the Senate impeachment trial. Well done, sir!

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
80. OFFS Philbin is lying about what was even in their truncated call memo
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:30 PM
Jan 2020

that they keep calling a "transcript".

(i.e., the "do us a favor though..." part)

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
95. Red Don's crew said the house didn't go through their own procedures properly in filing them ...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:46 PM
Jan 2020

... which is asinine seeing house procedures are left up to the house

hlthe2b

(102,119 posts)
89. I wish I could program my tv to unmute and alert when Schiff is speaking--
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:37 PM
Jan 2020

not that the other managers aren't also worth hearing, but he is in a different category altogether.

I hate to miss any of his responses, but I just can't stand to listen to the WH liars.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,249 posts)
100. Not that I heard. ...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:05 PM
Jan 2020

The charitable assumption is that law enforcement does not want to lend credibility to whatever name he called out.

The Senate, at least, should censure his rancid ass.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,249 posts)
96. ABC, NBC, PBS -- Republican talkers; CBS regular programming
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:49 PM
Jan 2020

Claire McCaskill now on ABC

Edit to add:

Tim Kaine on NBC
Coons on PBS

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