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OMG, there IS a dress!!!! (Original Post) RandySF Jan 2020 OP
How interesting! CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2020 #1
I hope its a blue dress Ferryboat Jan 2020 #62
He's so guilty. MontanaMama Jan 2020 #2
I'm with you there! nt 2naSalit Jan 2020 #4
Hard for him to argue consensual, when he has denied knowing her. (n/t) thesquanderer Jan 2020 #11
He will find a way if he is pushed. MontanaMama Jan 2020 #21
presidents are busy. How will he have time to give a sample? rurallib Jan 2020 #12
He's producing plenty of dna during executive time (allegedly) fwvinson Jan 2020 #29
several ways azureblue Jan 2020 #39
Getting a volunteer for #3 could be difficult rurallib Jan 2020 #45
Trump probably fantasizes about masturbating Bob Loblaw Jan 2020 #48
And that is mild malaise Jan 2020 #18
Where we need a spy. Just like the guy who Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #51
Trump's defense: I meet thousands of women I don't know. My spunk's DNA is on a lot of them. TheBlackAdder Jan 2020 #3
K&R uponit7771 Jan 2020 #5
How many people have been accused of rape several dozen times Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #6
probably very few if any NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #15
No one wryter2000 Jan 2020 #53
If there are any, intheflow Jan 2020 #63
That man leaves DNA all over the place. It would be great if someone Maraya1969 Jan 2020 #7
Yeah, he is probably an ejaculating mess. PatrickforO Jan 2020 #17
Not sure even DNA evidence would be enough TheRealNorth Jan 2020 #8
Forensics have already determined it's not semen. PandoraAwakened Jan 2020 #50
Your first paragraph PCIntern Jan 2020 #58
DNA testing is fake science. docgee Jan 2020 #9
Is there orange goop on it? lame54 Jan 2020 #10
Sorry folks..... Executive Privilege. Chakaconcarne Jan 2020 #13
The only jobs SHITLER has created is for the lawyers in the hundreds of lawsuits against him. UTUSN Jan 2020 #14
Hey, Donnie, you disgusting rapist. Can you spell DNA? Here! I'll help! PatrickforO Jan 2020 #16
Only if you spot him the D and the N....... lastlib Jan 2020 #40
Alan Dershowitz says jcgoldie Jan 2020 #19
LOL onetexan Jan 2020 #20
now I'm throwing up ...... yuck all over Dickshowitz MFGsunny Jan 2020 #23
ah but only if trump thinks so. riversedge Jan 2020 #27
Nothing can happen while he's President and it will stand. It's where we are at these days. jalan48 Jan 2020 #22
so, about a year from now. riversedge Jan 2020 #28
Hopefully, though I haven't seen any President held to account after he leaves office. jalan48 Jan 2020 #33
Rape is a state crime. He can be charged now. lastlib Jan 2020 #42
I don't see it happening though it I think it should. nt jalan48 Jan 2020 #44
more reason to crown himself king... GetRidOfThem Jan 2020 #59
There is no seman detected on the dress. Crabby Appleton Jan 2020 #60
IN THE 90'S KentuckyWoman Jan 2020 #24
Well well well. calimary Jan 2020 #25
Interesting that his friend SCIENCE might do trump in. riversedge Jan 2020 #26
Come on people. Traildogbob Jan 2020 #30
We can be certain of one thing. Zolorp Jan 2020 #31
Lordy, Lordy! Mike Nelson Jan 2020 #32
BUT WILL TEEVEE MEDIA HAVE BLUE DRESS COVERAGE?!? MEdia says MEH. pansypoo53219 Jan 2020 #34
I hate him and feel terrible for all those he has mistreated BUT jgmiller Jan 2020 #35
Nope azureblue Jan 2020 #41
+1, its past time we cut the arm off Thanos before he snaps his fingers. People don't understand uponit7771 Jan 2020 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author azureblue Jan 2020 #43
There is an answer lurking here somewhere. rzemanfl Jan 2020 #49
I think this is right... Dorian Gray Jan 2020 #57
reptilian dna? IcyPeas Jan 2020 #36
I think that he is a slimey lizard. nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #46
A male lot lizard? mwooldri Jan 2020 #47
When trump gets arrested, that dress should fly as a flag over D.C. Miigwech Jan 2020 #37
I am sure Barr will be quick to support the subpoena. gibraltar72 Jan 2020 #38
Please tell me it's blue wryter2000 Jan 2020 #52
Don't forget Aussie105 Jan 2020 #54
This will be fun to watch Gothmog Jan 2020 #55
Just go through the garbage at the WH or Mar-a-Lago nt Chalco Jan 2020 #61
This gets dumber by the day progressiveradical Jan 2020 #64

MontanaMama

(23,238 posts)
2. He's so guilty.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:54 PM
Jan 2020

But, he either won't provide a sample or he'll say it was consensual. I hate that MF with the heat of 1000 suns. Universe, please take him off the planet.

azureblue

(2,131 posts)
39. several ways
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 06:50 PM
Jan 2020

1 - Follow his slime trail
2 - Catch the spit spray at one of his fund raisers
3 - Wipe the seat of his golf cart
4 - Ask Melania to save some next time they have sex. Oh, wait, that's never going to happen again..

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
51. Where we need a spy. Just like the guy who
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:40 AM
Jan 2020

taped Romney at that private fundraiser "48%" dinner! Anyone who serves him tea at Mara Lago.

NewJeffCT

(56,827 posts)
15. probably very few if any
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:10 PM
Jan 2020

when I've seen or heard about false allegations, it usually involves one female accuser, not many.

intheflow

(28,407 posts)
63. If there are any,
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:28 PM
Jan 2020

I'm sure they're black and absolutely not guilty. Also, probably being accused by white people covering for the crimes of other white people.

Maraya1969

(22,441 posts)
7. That man leaves DNA all over the place. It would be great if someone
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:15 PM
Jan 2020

swiped it and gave it to the lawyer. Even if it isn't admissible wouldn't that cause a judge to order a direct test?

TheRealNorth

(9,435 posts)
8. Not sure even DNA evidence would be enough
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:24 PM
Jan 2020

It's not like the dress has been in a police evidence locker for 20 years. Even if they managed to get a DNA match to Trump, his lawyers could argue his DNA was "planted" after the fact.

Maybe if they could determine that DNA on the dress was from semen (if you have a good sample, maybe you could distinguish unpaired (meiotic) DNA from paired DNA, she could have a stronger argument. But I really don't know if forensics could make the distinction from such an old sample (if the cells and chromosome structures have broken down.)

PandoraAwakened

(905 posts)
50. Forensics have already determined it's not semen.
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:00 AM
Jan 2020

But that's not the point. The DNA is on the sleeve of the dress. Her deposition describes how she was able to fight him off and get the hell out of there after he grabbed her, banged her head on the wall, pulled her tights down and (ugh) "briefly inserted." There's no assertion of ejaculation.

The actual point of all this is that it's a DEFAMATION case, not a rape case. tRump defamed the woman by calling her a liar and saying he had never met her, ever. DNA from where he grabbed her could point to the lie in this statement.

They've already ruled out via DNA testing other men in her life at the time, so apparently the sample is still viable.

UTUSN

(70,496 posts)
14. The only jobs SHITLER has created is for the lawyers in the hundreds of lawsuits against him.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:10 PM
Jan 2020

He might as well just abscond to his preferred homeland, Russia. But PUTEEN would have no use for him over there.






MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
23. now I'm throwing up ...... yuck all over Dickshowitz
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:52 PM
Jan 2020

what a degenerate tool of MF45 and others he's being shown to be!

lastlib

(22,981 posts)
42. Rape is a state crime. He can be charged now.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 06:53 PM
Jan 2020

Put out a warrant for his arrest, and be waiting for him--as soon as the next pres takes the oath next January, slap the cuffs on him!

GetRidOfThem

(869 posts)
59. more reason to crown himself king...
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 08:14 AM
Jan 2020

...I do not think he will leave office voluntarly if elected out...

KentuckyWoman

(6,666 posts)
24. IN THE 90'S
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:55 PM
Jan 2020

DJT was out raping while at the same time giving money over to have President Clinton impeached for lying about a BJ.

Sounds just like a Republican to me.......

Traildogbob

(8,576 posts)
30. Come on people.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 06:22 PM
Jan 2020

All you need to do is swab a microphone after his KKKlan Jamboree. CSI, if you're listening, you will be greatly rewarded. Ya know he drools on those rediculous ties anytime Ivanka is near him.

 

Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
31. We can be certain of one thing.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 06:23 PM
Jan 2020

Ken Starr will be the FIRST of Trump's lawyers to argue it would be wrong to demand the DNA of a sitting president to test it against the DNA on a cum stained dress.

jgmiller

(383 posts)
35. I hate him and feel terrible for all those he has mistreated BUT
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 06:38 PM
Jan 2020

This is nothing more than a side show, nothing will come of it and even if it did it's well past the statute of limitations.

We need to stop jumping on this stuff and focus on his being unfit for office and displaying it every single day. Going on about old stuff doesn't anything good to get rid of him and actually helps him.

azureblue

(2,131 posts)
41. Nope
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 06:53 PM
Jan 2020

I'm of the "throw everything we got at him" school. Constantly, steadily. Keep him reacting, and he can't "act" because he will be too busy tweeting in response..

uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
56. +1, its past time we cut the arm off Thanos before he snaps his fingers. People don't understand
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 06:57 AM
Jan 2020

... dictators don't let go of power and Red Don is the closest thing we've gotten to something truly screwed up in this country.

Johnson was an a-hole but he wasn't nuts

Response to jgmiller (Reply #35)

Dorian Gray

(13,469 posts)
57. I think this is right...
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 07:15 AM
Jan 2020

lower in the article, it says that the DNA material was tested and did not show particulars of semen DNA, so I don't know what this would prove.

It is a side show.

We know he is slime.

But this will just serve to obfuscate and divide. He won't agree to DNA testing, and even if he did and it matched his DNA, without the presence of semen, it would only prove that he was present with her. Not that he sexually assaulted her.

mwooldri

(10,291 posts)
47. A male lot lizard?
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:40 PM
Jan 2020

If he came knocking on my truck while I was trying to sleep I wouldn't let him in...

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
37. When trump gets arrested, that dress should fly as a flag over D.C.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 06:45 PM
Jan 2020

as the flag of freedom from forced SPERM ... just my imagination, there is no flag against forced SPERM, just had some fun with the whole crazy thing called trump*

wryter2000

(46,016 posts)
52. Please tell me it's blue
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 01:32 AM
Jan 2020

Cue Republican explanations why this blue dress is different from that blue dress.

Aussie105

(5,211 posts)
54. Don't forget
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 01:53 AM
Jan 2020

that if a President considers his action to be in the best interests of the country, then what he does cannot be considered a crime.

 
64. This gets dumber by the day
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 03:16 PM
Jan 2020

Seriously, what is the need for all this?

The man is a horrible President who should be routed at the polls in November. Even his "great economy" is tanking. The only people who made out in his term are the 1%. Bernie is going to crush him like a bug.

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