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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMSM take on President Obama: He's on the defensive (MSM is going to slam the President)
Predictable.
Obama gets defensive
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/09/07/obama-gets-defensive/
Obama on the defensive at Democrat convention
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-07/obama-on-the-defensive-at-democrat-convention/4249384
Obama's Convention Anticlimax
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/obamas-convention-anticlimax/262087/
liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)All they got from the Republicans was an old man who talked to himself, an empty chair and an empty suit with no substance.
Before the speech they said he hadn't told the story of the last 3 1/2 years (they called it 4). Now he is defensive. There is no way Obama is going to get any help from the media.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,394 posts)MSM coddles Republicans like the typical irresponsible younger child who is perpetually getting into trouble and needing to be bailed out. They treat Democrats like the typical eldest child who is always expected to be perfect and is often relentlessly and obsessively criticised when they are perceived as "not measuring up" in some important way- though it seems like criticism of the two parties is almost always woefully lopsided against the Democrats IMHO
movonne
(9,623 posts)still_one
(92,061 posts)the MSM is in full panic mode, and on the defensive.
nanabugg
(2,198 posts)PEOPLE matter!!! And people, having watched the DNC, know how to turn the media off. The media will be spinning to the usual culprits.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... and soon it will be the TV networks. And they all deserve to die because they do not fulfill their mandate of operating in the public interest.
mattclearing
(10,091 posts)That is not a serious or representative sampling of the MSM.
Appreciate your concern, though.
cali
(114,904 posts)the tired "concern" dog shit? Really? Implying that I'm a concern troll" Really, dear? Yeah, that's the ticket, most successful concern troll ever with 75,000 polls.
I hate teh stupid.
mattclearing
(10,091 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)that you think the MSM won't go after the President in the coming days?
How cute.
mattclearing
(10,091 posts)Just said your OP is unsupported crap. I stand by that.
unblock
(52,120 posts)yeah, i've been on to you as a concern troll from way back, lol!
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)bullshit.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)INdemo
(6,994 posts)Romney is concentrating now on 8 toss up states.(Originally there were 11 classified as toss up)
Chuck Todd said this morning Rmoney would have to win ,I think it was 6 of those eight to come close and it still would not put him over the top..Obama would then need to win just one of three states to put him over the top.So when they prop up Romney with all this close election BS and then look at the electoral college..They somehow are missing a couple steps in the math formula.
karynnj
(59,498 posts)He laid out the next steps that need to be done and enlisted the support of everyone at that convention and hopefully many beyond it. After Clinton, Kerry and Biden (along with everyone else) defended what was accomplished, Obama led the charge for continuing the change.
Maybe they should note that the Republicans in their convention did NOT defend their ideas or their past (I loved that someone posted that a teetotaler's drinking game was to drink when the RNC mentioned GWB). That is why EVERY Democrat here tore Romney and Ryan apart.
In addition, their campaign was more offensive than it was a real offense effort. Bill Clinton gave Obama the best summary of there offense - that in Tampa they spoke of leaving Obama a big mess then complaining that he is not cleaning it up fast enough and they should be let back in.
Not to mention, as to being defensive - I would rather defend all the serious work done by Obama then to be a Republican defending a VP who has become a joke with his lying about his athletic achievements or a President, whose secretive business may have gone over the legal line on avoiding taxes (and almost surely went over a "perception of fairness" line.)
deutsey
(20,166 posts)They fixate on "personalities" and the very dumbed-down melodrama of the clashes between them. It's in their best interest to make elections that kind of spectator sport (i.e., ratings, selling commercial air time, etc.), so that's how they frame it.
To them, Obama's appeal to make it everyone's fight was just campaign rhetoric that was part of the Big Show and so, therefore, that's how it gets spun.
Edited to add: none of these media people are struggling like many of us working Americans are. For people like us, what a politician says and does on this level of politics can be a matter of life and death (e.g., healthcare , the economy, war); for many of them, it's just a matter of scoring points in the Big Show and acquiring fodder for cocktail party chatter.
karynnj
(59,498 posts)motivate a larger group of people to see this as THEIR generation's struggle, it can do what the media op conventions tend not to do anymore. This election really is - like the last three elections - an election with incredible consequences.
If we win, which seems likely, ACA will become an established entitlement. A REPUBLICAN (can't remember who) stated that once that happens - it is politically difference to get rid of. He did not make the then obvious observation that this is something people want. If we win, we may change the 3 decade trend that widens the income gap.
We don't even know all that we lose if we lose. In 2004, we saw many things that would be worse, but no one guessed that a US President would ignore for a few days the flooding of an American city or Citizen's United. No one who knows anything about Kerry would ever claim that he would have done anything like that. (Oddly, Romney might have done either - here's how he ignored flooding in MA - http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/05/1097537/-EPIC-FAIL-Romney-as-MA-Gov-The-2006-Floods )
deutsey
(20,166 posts)is that a large number of people see through the media bullshit and, as you say, see this election as crucial not just to their personal well-being but to the well being of our our country and, ultimately, our planet.
I'm on a roller coaster ride when it comes to whether this will happen...peaks of optimism and valleys of foreboding.
karynnj
(59,498 posts)It is really tough seeing this as critical and seeing that our media - as flashy and abundant as it is - is no longer really a free and independent press that could hold government responsible.
ananda
(28,835 posts)Get your news, information, and commentary
from those more informed and objective.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)Like many here, I watched it on C-SPAN.
I saw and heard everything with my own eyes and ears.
I don't need TV pundits or newspaper hacks to tell me what to think.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)spanone
(135,795 posts)Botany
(70,447 posts)Defensive?????
INdemo
(6,994 posts)And they had their scripts ready before our convention was over.Yep they all had their marching orders.And the likes of Brokaw,Gregory and Chuckie Todd had those marching orders well rehearsed and ready to go this morning..Chuck Todd sounded like a Faux commentator,while bringing in these so called economists to talk about the jobs.He keeps talking about losing manufacturing jobs but these are directly linked to exports and the European crisis...
Defensive ..no way. Many of these stories come from AP and if you do the research on the writers most of them are right wing hacks and have backgrounds directly tied to the GOP or right wing rags.