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DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 06:41 PM Sep 2012

Jeeeez.....did Romney just say, on MSNBC, that Afghanistan isn't important??

Did I just hear MSNBC right? Romney said he didn't speak about Afghanistan because he only had time to talk about the things that were important. (on Politics Nation)

Oh man....how hard is this guy gonna work to lose the military vote?

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Jeeeez.....did Romney just say, on MSNBC, that Afghanistan isn't important?? (Original Post) DonRedwood Sep 2012 OP
Yes he did skeewee08 Sep 2012 #1
but.... wow.... I'm kind of in shock at the stupidity of this DonRedwood Sep 2012 #2
He ceretainly implied that, but when I heard this discussed yesterday, napi21 Sep 2012 #8
I can verify the two sentences about Afghanistan DonRedwood Sep 2012 #10
Unlike Cheney, i guess his business doesn't involve ammo and such darkangel218 Sep 2012 #3
yes he did riverwalker Sep 2012 #4
It reminded me when he said during the primary "For pete's sakes I can't have an illegal working southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #5
I can't wait until the debates begin. He's so stupid TheCowsCameHome Sep 2012 #6
he'll do fine in the debates, they will go to the same play book they used for Palin Hamlette Sep 2012 #9
he's gonna bite it in the rebuttle.... he won't be able to address comments from Obama DonRedwood Sep 2012 #11
And, drink Cha Sep 2012 #16
His arrogance might well override any 'instructions' he would be given... Spazito Sep 2012 #12
Very true Indpndnt Sep 2012 #22
LOL, I suspect he will try something extraneous to be funny... Spazito Sep 2012 #29
all of that was true of Palin too Hamlette Sep 2012 #25
Two things, comparing Palin, running for VP, and Romney, running for Pres, is not... Spazito Sep 2012 #27
And Obama can go on the offensive w/out it being Obama beating up a good ol' Vet war hero DonRedwood Sep 2012 #32
Anything off the script, he'll fall apart like a $1 watch. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2012 #23
I really like how you put that :0) DonRedwood Sep 2012 #35
Uh, he is as stupid as you thought. madashelltoo Sep 2012 #7
WOW.... I can't wait to see the commercials being made from that interview! DonRedwood Sep 2012 #15
I saw a comment there that Cha Sep 2012 #19
WOW! DemKittyNC Sep 2012 #13
Here's a DU link to the VIDEO Tx4obama Sep 2012 #14
Did he say it with that weird, sociopathic chuckle of his? Lucy Goosey Sep 2012 #17
He did! Spazito Sep 2012 #20
Just caught the video... Lucy Goosey Sep 2012 #24
Yep, he really resents being called on something like this and... Spazito Sep 2012 #28
I've noticed that too!! his laughs and chuckles are ALL awful DonRedwood Sep 2012 #21
I saw that! It was the worst possible answer. Apparently it wasn't on his "laundry list"! anAustralianobserver Sep 2012 #18
he sure did... Setsuna1972 Sep 2012 #26
what are service people saying about romney? I've been curious DonRedwood Sep 2012 #33
Well, what can you possibly outsource to Afghanistan? Retrograde Sep 2012 #30
Mitt Romney: Worst. Candidate. Ever. ProSense Sep 2012 #31
maybe... DonRedwood Sep 2012 #36
If a Democrat said the same thing... TTUBatfan2008 Sep 2012 #34
And this guy wants to be commander in chief??? Fuck him. Initech Sep 2012 #37

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
2. but.... wow.... I'm kind of in shock at the stupidity of this
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 06:44 PM
Sep 2012

I didn't think I could have heard it right...I was multitasking and I thought for a minute my brain has short-circuited.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
8. He ceretainly implied that, but when I heard this discussed yesterday,
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 06:49 PM
Sep 2012

Romney had followed that "only what you think is important" comment with "I had a speech yesterday where I discussed Afghanistan".

The problem is, MSNBC checked that speech from "yesterday" and he had all of two short sentences about Afghanistan. Something pretty generic too, like "we're involved in a war in Afghanistan", andf not much else

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
10. I can verify the two sentences about Afghanistan
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 06:54 PM
Sep 2012

I watched the speech...oddly enough, if my mind recalls correctly, he might have been speaking to VETS while he said it.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
3. Unlike Cheney, i guess his business doesn't involve ammo and such
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 06:45 PM
Sep 2012

So like a good businessman, he doesn't care for which or what doesn't give him a profit.

Grrrrrrrr!

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
5. It reminded me when he said during the primary "For pete's sakes I can't have an illegal working
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 06:46 PM
Sep 2012

for me, I am running for president". Just on the same line. The man is cluess.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
6. I can't wait until the debates begin. He's so stupid
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 06:47 PM
Sep 2012

the Dems won't have to try to box him in. He'll do it all by himself.

Hamlette

(15,411 posts)
9. he'll do fine in the debates, they will go to the same play book they used for Palin
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 06:53 PM
Sep 2012

If you saw or read Game Change, they recount that Palin was so bad in debate prep that they decided to just give her a couple dozen answers and had her memorize them. They knew, roughly, what the questions would be.

Romney will do the same thing. He'll memorize some answers and pablum and just mix it up enough to fill the time.

Where he is bad is when he ad libs. He thinks he has a favorable setting with Fox news so when they ask him questions he doesn't like he gets pissy (like he did today) and says stupid stuff.

Won't happen in the debate. IMHO.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
11. he's gonna bite it in the rebuttle.... he won't be able to address comments from Obama
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 06:56 PM
Sep 2012

Those hollow answers don't answer attacks very well.

I think Obama is going to eat him up like he is chicken dinner.

Spazito

(50,283 posts)
12. His arrogance might well override any 'instructions' he would be given...
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:00 PM
Sep 2012

he has ignored the advice he has been given previously during his campaign. He's used to 'running the show', telling others what to do and doesn't take kindly to being told what to do himself.

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
22. Very true
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:39 PM
Sep 2012

I'm hoping he tries to make a $10K bet with the President like he did with Perry. That didn't go over well, but he refuses to admit past mistakes and just doubles down. Hey, $20K bet!

Spazito

(50,283 posts)
29. LOL, I suspect he will try something extraneous to be funny...
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:43 PM
Sep 2012

if he feels goaded and that has been, without exception, a disaster.

Hamlette

(15,411 posts)
25. all of that was true of Palin too
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:14 PM
Sep 2012

Palin was more self assured than Mitt is, or at least her persona is, but Mitt is smarter. If they could polish that turn Palin and get her through a debate, they can do it to Romney too.

Out best ammunition to use against Mitt is going to come from interviews, just like it did with Palin. Remember, "what papers did you read" "what supreme court decision do you disagree with" "do you agree with the Bush doctrine" "I can see Russia from my house/state"? All came from two interviews. I can't think of a memorable line from Palin during the debate. She was destroyed in her interviews, not in her debate.

The debates will not turn the tide. Hope and pray Mitt keeps giving interviews, and that Ann does too. Or that they clam up so tight the media gets pissed. I'm not banking on any swing from the debates.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not pessimistic about the election. It's just that I think its a ground game/get out the vote. We gotta make sure everyone gets to the polls and gets to vote.

Spazito

(50,283 posts)
27. Two things, comparing Palin, running for VP, and Romney, running for Pres, is not...
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:31 PM
Sep 2012

a valid comparison. Palin was debating Joe Biden who did not go on full attack mode with her knowing he would be portrayed as bullying a woman so she got off VERY easy and still made a mess of it, imo.

Certainly Romney's own words are his biggest weakness, that and his secretiveness, both of which, when he is questioned on them, puts him into a defensive mode and when that happens, he tends to go 'off message' and ad libs, ad libs which tend to create even bigger problems for him.

I totally agree it is, in the final analysis, the ground game/get out the vote that will ensure a win but the debates do play a part in influencing the 2 - 5% that are undecided, imo.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
32. And Obama can go on the offensive w/out it being Obama beating up a good ol' Vet war hero
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 11:06 PM
Sep 2012

Obama is going to be able to hit hard and cruely to romney and I think the public is going to approve in this instance. Holding a liar to his words is fair game.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
23. Anything off the script, he'll fall apart like a $1 watch.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:42 PM
Sep 2012

Just look at his gaffes so far. He hasn't a clue.

Cha

(297,137 posts)
19. I saw a comment there that
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:26 PM
Sep 2012

went something like.. "hey mitt, if you don't like the cuts stay away from the propeller."!

DemKittyNC

(743 posts)
13. WOW!
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:00 PM
Sep 2012

I am sure that just makes our Troops feel great to know he doesn't give a damn to even think about them. I bet in Rmoney's mind he sees our Brave Soldiers as little plastic game pieces to move across a checkerboard only if he was in command he would be as stupid as to just keep jumping his own pieces.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
14. Here's a DU link to the VIDEO
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:01 PM
Sep 2012

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101755679

p.s. And talking about military budgets is NOT the same thing as mentioning the 'troops service to our country'.

Romney's in deep shit on this one!

Lucy Goosey

(2,940 posts)
17. Did he say it with that weird, sociopathic chuckle of his?
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:18 PM
Sep 2012

He always seems to have this insincere chuckle when he's being asked to talk about something he doesn't think he should have to talk about. It's creepy.

Spazito

(50,283 posts)
20. He did!
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:30 PM
Sep 2012

I thought I remembered him doing just that but watched the video clip to make sure and, yep, he made a bad joke, did the creepy chuckle and then gave the worst possible answer.

That chuckle IS creepy and I think you're right it is a 'tell'.

Lucy Goosey

(2,940 posts)
24. Just caught the video...
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:42 PM
Sep 2012

...and that is definitely a tell, isn't it? It sort of says, "I'm doing my best to seem outwardly affable, but I am a smoldering cauldron of rage on the inside." Or something like that.

Spazito

(50,283 posts)
28. Yep, he really resents being called on something like this and...
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:40 PM
Sep 2012

he becomes both angry and defensive which results in the dismissive chuckle and an arrogant, inappropriate answer. He has done this time and time again. A definite tell.

18. I saw that! It was the worst possible answer. Apparently it wasn't on his "laundry list"!
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:18 PM
Sep 2012

How could he not be prepared for it?

Setsuna1972

(332 posts)
26. he sure did...
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:18 PM
Sep 2012

I couldn't believe it until I watched the video earlier today...my friends still in the Army currently deployed won't like this bit of news at all !!

Retrograde

(10,133 posts)
30. Well, what can you possibly outsource to Afghanistan?
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:51 PM
Sep 2012

Poorly educated workforce, infrastructure in ruins, bombs going off all the time - where's the profit potential?

Besides, we're revving up to invade Syria and nuke Iran under the Willard regime.

I haven't been this scared of a candidate since Goldwater.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
31. Mitt Romney: Worst. Candidate. Ever.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:59 PM
Sep 2012

Mitt laid low waiting for the jobs report so he could pounce with his lies. He started the day spewing cheap talking points about jobs and touting numbers unsubstantiated by anything he has offered in the way of policy. Actually, his policies are a secret.

Mitt ends the day on the defensive because in defense of omitting any reference to the troops serving in harms way in Afghanistan, he states he did so because our troops didn't make the cut of the "laundry list" of "important" things that he needed to mention in his speech.

Mitt, get off the stage!

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
34. If a Democrat said the same thing...
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 11:08 PM
Sep 2012

it would completely kill that candidate's chance at winning the election. Amazing how much of a pass the Republicans get on this particular topic.

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