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The wolf is opening the gate: Larry Flynt offers $1M for Mitt Romney's tax returns. (Original Post) dogknob Sep 2012 OP
Sleazy, but a treasure. aquart Sep 2012 #1
Still not as sleazy as Rmoney by a long shot Major Nikon Sep 2012 #7
He's not a hypocrite, thats for sure. demosincebirth Sep 2012 #29
Yeah, he's sleazy....... PDJane Sep 2012 #2
I hope someone takes up the challenge! Logical Sep 2012 #3
Hustler's circulation must be dropping off again... n/t cherokeeprogressive Sep 2012 #4
Unfortunately, anyone with access to his taxes probably sufrommich Sep 2012 #5
You'd be surprised Major Nikon Sep 2012 #10
It could be some guy working in the basement of the IRS building ...busting his balls, at the same demosincebirth Sep 2012 #30
If his tax returns have been filed electronically, they are out there in Cleita Sep 2012 #6
There has to be scads of people working in the IRS........ left on green only Sep 2012 #8
Especially if they want to spend the next 10 years in prison. former9thward Sep 2012 #11
Exactly SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2012 #12
how about someone in the mccain campaign...i'll bet john wasn't the only ones to see them spanone Sep 2012 #15
Still illegal n/t SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2012 #20
I don't think Larry is worried about the legality. Cleita Sep 2012 #24
I agree, he doesn't care SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2012 #26
Neither am I, but that doesn't stop it from happening. Cleita Sep 2012 #27
larry can afford big lawyers...and he would probably never divulge his source spanone Sep 2012 #34
I hope not jberryhill Sep 2012 #18
Another publicity stunt by Flynt. former9thward Sep 2012 #9
I don't think Bob Livingston would agree Major Nikon Sep 2012 #13
Probably a publicity stunt panader0 Sep 2012 #17
You can pretty much set your watch by the fact that Flynt has a good criminal lawyer. dogknob Sep 2012 #19
I don't think he is jberryhill Sep 2012 #21
Federal law is very specific. former9thward Sep 2012 #28
thank you larry. spanone Sep 2012 #14
He's just inviting a Karl Rove stunt n/t Lucy Goosey Sep 2012 #16
I love Larry Flynt malaise Sep 2012 #22
Remember, folks, the important part of Flynt's stunt... MANative Sep 2012 #23
This makes a lot of sense. n/t Cleita Sep 2012 #25
I gotta say, he might be sleazy but he's my kind of sleazy Autumn Sep 2012 #31
My question is... what would you believe, and what would you disbelieve? cherokeeprogressive Sep 2012 #32
There is an anonymous group that claims they already have them dickthegrouch Sep 2012 #33

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
10. You'd be surprised
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:07 PM
Sep 2012

A lot of campaign staffers work for chump change and many of them find themselves tossed aside once the election is over. I'd be willing to bet there's some low level McCain staffers out there with a copy saved for a rainy day.

demosincebirth

(12,530 posts)
30. It could be some guy working in the basement of the IRS building ...busting his balls, at the same
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:44 PM
Sep 2012

job, for 30 years and just wants to say... fuck it! Know what I'm sayin'?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
6. If his tax returns have been filed electronically, they are out there in
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:04 PM
Sep 2012

cyberspace somewhere. It might not take a Price, Waterhouse insider to do it but an IRS one or just a good anonymous hacker.

left on green only

(1,484 posts)
8. There has to be scads of people working in the IRS........
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:05 PM
Sep 2012

...who have access to this information. And the thought of receiving a $1M reward for dropping the dime on a total louse like Romney has to be at least tempting to some of those IRS people.

former9thward

(31,949 posts)
11. Especially if they want to spend the next 10 years in prison.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:08 PM
Sep 2012

I'm sure someone will jump right in for that chance.

spanone

(135,795 posts)
15. how about someone in the mccain campaign...i'll bet john wasn't the only ones to see them
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:14 PM
Sep 2012

could've made copies....never know

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
26. I agree, he doesn't care
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:34 PM
Sep 2012

And I'm sure many others don't care either. Personally, I'm not into advocating breaking the law, even if it helps win an election.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
27. Neither am I, but that doesn't stop it from happening.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:37 PM
Sep 2012

I'm more inclined to believe that it's a publicity stunt to keep the tax issue in front of the news, almost as good as having the tax returns themselves. Larry isn't stupid.

former9thward

(31,949 posts)
9. Another publicity stunt by Flynt.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:06 PM
Sep 2012

He always makes these offers and nothing ever comes from them. Hopefully he has good criminal lawyer. He is soliciting for someone to commit a felony which is a felony itself. Once in possession of the tax returns he would be committing another felony.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
17. Probably a publicity stunt
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:15 PM
Sep 2012

But his offer keeps the taxes in the news PLUS we get the Hustler vote..lol

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
19. You can pretty much set your watch by the fact that Flynt has a good criminal lawyer.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:16 PM
Sep 2012

I would amend your statement to say that I hope Flynt is willing to back the winner up with legal support.

Even when I was a teen with raging hormones, I found Hustler to be disgusting, but if he walks his talk, I'm behind him.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
21. I don't think he is
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:22 PM
Sep 2012

He is not specifying the means.

There may be people with contractual obligations not to disclose - i.e. the McCain campaign. That would cause civil liability, but would not be a crime.

Also, I can say here - I wish someone would take all of Wells Fargo's furniture, like they did to that couple in California - but if I am not directing that to any specific person, I'd have to look at what constitutes a solicitation under the relevant statute.

I'll pay $100 to anyone who smokes marijuana on the floor of the House of Representatives!

Do you seriously believe I just committed a crime by saying that?

former9thward

(31,949 posts)
28. Federal law is very specific.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 08:35 PM
Sep 2012

It is a felony for anyone not authorized for government purposes to access anyone's tax returns or to distribute their contents to anyone else. It does not matter the 'means'. He is soliciting a felony to be committed which is a felony.

MANative

(4,112 posts)
23. Remember, folks, the important part of Flynt's stunt...
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:31 PM
Sep 2012

is that it keeps Romney's taxes in the news and alive as an issue. The reward is just the stunt that achieves a very important political goal!

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
32. My question is... what would you believe, and what would you disbelieve?
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:57 PM
Sep 2012

Are you going to go running to the press if a pimp comes to you on the street and says "I've got copies of Romney's tax returns!"? That's all Larry Flynt is... a pimp.

For that matter, how believable will it be if someone, ANYONE, comes out and says "We hacked into the IRS database and here're Romney's tax returns!" or We broke into the office of xxxxx and here're Romney's tax returns!"

Would anyone treat the returns as the real deal? Would ANY reputable news source put this information out to the world and stake their reputation on it? Can you say "Dan Rather"?

If hackers OR burglars jump into the light claiming to have Mitt Romney's tax returns, I'm afraid I'd have to investigate their backgrounds AND their motivations before I'd put it out there and stake my news organization's reputation on it.

My first question is how many degrees of separation are there between the hackers/burglars and KKKarl Rove.

dickthegrouch

(3,170 posts)
33. There is an anonymous group that claims they already have them
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 10:12 PM
Sep 2012

They are offering to destroy them for a million from Mitt or to publish them if they get the million from elsewhere.

They claim they stole them from PWC.

This could get interesting

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2012/09/07/romneys-tax-returns-allegedly-held-for-ransom/

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