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Why Does the IRS Encourage Churches to Break the Law? (Original Post) riqster Sep 2012 OP
That sign is not a violation of the law SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2012 #1
Indeed. Igel Sep 2012 #2
bluntandcranky doesn't appear to know the law - lynne Sep 2012 #3
The sign, no riqster Sep 2012 #5
They don't (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #4

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
1. That sign is not a violation of the law
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:20 PM
Sep 2012

Churches are free to discuss politics, they are free to provide voter guides that lay out the position of the church side by side with the position of the parties/candidates, they are free to say "vote against abortion" or "vote for contraception".

They aren't permitted to tell people, expliciitly, that they should vote for or against a particular party or candidate.

Discussing the role of religion or religious beliefs in government is not a violation.

Igel

(35,282 posts)
2. Indeed.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:21 PM
Sep 2012

Religious non-profits can't engage in partisan politics. Issues aren't partisan (which is why a lot of think tanks that are rabidly progressive or conservative can still be "non-partisan&quot .

Most people assume that all politics are partisan so "partisan politics" is redundant.

They also don't like churches, esp. those that might disagree with them. For some it's the fact that churches are. For others, that somebody dares to disagree. (And in others, both.)

lynne

(3,118 posts)
3. bluntandcranky doesn't appear to know the law -
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:31 PM
Sep 2012

- based on what he/she has written. That sign doesn't violate the law. A church can discuss political issues but cannot endorse a particular candidate.

Sad to see someone spreading misinformation when all he/she had to do was a bit of research.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
5. The sign, no
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:38 AM
Sep 2012

The content of the sermon, very much a violation: as was the Mike Huckabee rally at Genoa Baptist Church a few years back; as were the Pro-Blackwell activities of the World Harvest Church; as were the "voter guides" put on pews in 2006 and 2008; many other incidents, too many to mention here.

This has been a running issue in Ohio and has been actively litigated and brought to the attention of the IRS since 2006 (perhaps longer, but I have only been involved with the issue since that time period).

Apologies for not having provided more back story with the post. My bad.

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