I think he is now scrambling to scrub the "kill the bill" they have been preaching to the lunatics. The polling must suggest that people are not liking their plans on healthcare, medicare, etc. But once Mitt loses the lunatics by straying from their gospel, he is dead meat.

that's what he has in mind.

Sorry I didn't get it.

Not the people who make up the corporations.

there is something called guaranteed issue that large employers can take advantage of - it means that they are big enough that every employee will be guaranteed coverage because actuarial tables tell them that the risk is acceptable. Anybody not in a GI plan is at the mercy of the underwriters who are the actual, functioning death panels that the Klondike Kardashian was whining about.

If someone can find affordable health insurance that doesn't go away if they lose their job, then that's a good thing.

the only problem is how to make sure people are getting paid more because just dropping the insurance would't guarantee that the money would go to the workers.

that the Mittster has nothing in mind that actually helps those people.

And BTW, I'm one of them.

Sounds Grand.

there were a true public option where guaranteed issue were offered to all Americans, period. no more working horrible jobs just so we can afford to get sick. this would do more to spur entrepreneurialism than anything else.

of course, this isn't what Mittens has in mind, but maybe we'll get there with a democratic administration + Congress, one day.

because it would be such a huge disaster.

competitive versus europe, but the better option is it being rn by THE GOVERNMENT. so he is 1/2 right.

Maybe the individual policy I would buy would have a bit less coverage, but for what I paid for the group policy under COBRA (which is a group policy rate, except I pay what the employer pays), I think there was no discount for it being group.

It could be because under the group policy, the rate is based on a lot of unhealthy people and tons of claims, and includes rates for smokers, people with cancer, etc. All things you have to pay for when you pay for a block of diverse people who lead different lifestyles and have different health situations.

If my employer would give me a raise, I think I could buy my own policy at less expense, because I'm healthy, even though I'm older. I guess that would change, eventually, if I got cancer or whatever.

My point being that group policies aren't necessarily cheaper, unless you're a high risk person.

"He blathered something about working towards getting rid of employer based healthcare plans so we could all have the opportunity of buying real cheap insurance. "

During the health care debate in th 1990s, one of the things Republicans objected to most was the employer mandate.

Mitt also vetoed this provision in the MA health care law.