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Who is more responsible for killing of Osama bin Laden?
38% of Ohio Republicans say Obama, 15% Romney, 47% unsure
http://twitter.com/ppppolls
The unsure 47% are rather dense, of course, but what to say of the 15%?
...it's some sort of degeneracy. It is a perversion. A fetish for malice.
patrice
(47,992 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)PPP has a practice of asking "trouble-making" questions in their polling sets, so this seems right up their alley.
I grant that it is plenty weird enough to be satire, but in context I think this is indeed part of their Ohio poll results.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)The actual poll question and results:
Barack Obama................................................ 63%
Mitt Romney.................................................... 6%
Not sure .......................................................... 31%
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_OH_9912.pdf
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)You have to look further into the poll at the cross-tab pages.
Look at page 15
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_OH_9912.pdf
On page 15 it shows
Republicans said:
Obama 38%
Romney 15%
Not Sure 47%
Note: And 1% of Democrats said it was Romney.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I took that at face value, without investigating myself. (My bad )
I also was aware of PPP getting a deluge of outraged wingnut comments and responding with humor:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021309217
It's hard to take the Romney responses seriously. Maybe some respondents were punking the pollster, and/or Romney supporters simply were selecting only answers that were positive for their candidate.
In any case, I was wrong, and you're right. Those are the official poll results.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)PublicPolicyPolling ?@ppppolls
The reason for the Osama bin Laden question was to see if Republican voters would give credit to Obama for anything. Evidently answer is no
https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/245012788358029313
ALSO
PublicPolicyPolling ?@ppppolls
We asked Osama bin Laden credit question in NC too- 29% of Republicans say Obama deserves more, 15% Romney, 56% not sure
https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/245013178344435712
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Still, I was wrong.
And I also want to thank you for all the great work you do here, Tx4obama.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)And don't feel bad, we've all been wrong at one time or another here.
dogman
(6,073 posts)Maybe GOP in general. Just an indication 15% are hardcore assholes.
Same question asked in NC with 56% unsure.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)and 15% are sure that it is Romney who is more responsible than Obama for killing bin Laden?
Ebadlun
(336 posts)He ran there over 40 mountains and killed Bin Laden with his bare teeth.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)Do 15% of Ohio Republicans think Romney killed bin Laden? Probably not.
Posted by Dylan Matthews on September 10, 2012 at 9:32 am
Public Policy Polling has a new poll (pdf) out of Ohio showing Obama with his biggest lead since May. Given how hard it would be for Mitt Romney to win the White House without winning Ohio, thats a big deal.
But a secondary finding in the poll has gotten a lot of attention. PPP asked voters who they thought deserved more credit for the killing of Osama bin Laden: Obama or Romney. 63 percent said Obama, 31 percent werent sure, and 6 percent said Romney.
The results for Republican voters were even more astonishing. 38 percent said Obama, 47 percent werent sure, and 15 percent said Romney. What the heck is going on?
My best guess is one dash psychological trickery, and a healthy portion of sampling error. Theres a huge literature in political science on the extent to which surveys like this capture true public opinion, and another literature on the extent to which peoples ideologies affect their interpretation of objective fact, and both do a lot to explain the Romney-killed-bin Laden finding.
more
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/09/10/do-15-of-ohio-republicans-think-romney-killed-bin-laden-probably-not/