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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy Experts Say Obama’s In For A Rough Four Years — Even If He Wins Big
If President Obama wins reelection in November, it will be on a platform that promises higher taxes on top earners, tax reform built on top of a significantly higher revenue base and full implementation of his health care and financial reform laws. But if he makes good on any or all of them, it wont be because Republicans bend to the will of voters and accept his victory as a mandate to govern.
Despite the clear differences between the candidates, Republicans are telegraphing their intent to continue their fight against Obamas agenda into his second term. Some have brazenly used their own intransigence as an argument for a Mitt Romney presidency: Elect the Republican, or well keep the country ungovernable.
This cuts against a basic to-the-victor-go-the-spoils understanding of democracy. But in a presidential system its nothing new and isnt even all that rare. Politicians and pundits speak and write of electoral mandates as if presidents, like prime ministers of parliaments, were masters of their own policy destinies. But in the U.S. governing mandates are almost always illusory, which means even popular presidents, elected by wide margins, still have to fight like hell to deliver their agendas. And, troublingly, history shows the losers suffer few consequences for subverting voter will.
Usually talk of mandates is just empty words and false claims, says James Stimson, a political science professor at University of North Carolina.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/obama-romney-political-mandate.php
President Obama will basically be a lame duck with a Veto for four years, unless lazy Obama voters vote Democratic downticket.
klook
(12,151 posts)The districts and states where there's a chance to flip an "R" to a "D" are where we really need to focus our energies.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I still don't understand why the DNC, if not the Democratic SuperPac's have not invested in a "This, since Day-One, is what the gop has done for the past 3 1/2 years and voting Democratic top to bottom can stop it" campaign!
liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)Its up to the American people to realize that the Republican leadership in the house intends to keep the same path.
Ebadlun
(336 posts)until no sane person will admit to voting for them.
They haven't really been punished for their antics of the last two years. I don't know what can be done though.
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)the idea of "conservatism".
jonthebru
(1,034 posts)If the Senate is kept and the Democrats win the House Our President will be able to accomplish things.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)...we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)But that's "I Told Ya So" thinking that we can't afford; no one likes to be reminded when you told them they were screwing up, especially after it becomes clear to them they screwed up.
Bake
(21,977 posts)Let's give the Prez a MAJORITY IN CONGRESS!!
Bake
denverbill
(11,489 posts)He needs a Democratic Congress to get anything done. Instead of just going to get Romney defeated, he needs to change his ads to encourage voters to vote a straight ticket.
Ebadlun
(336 posts)Not just now, but over the last four years. In 2010 he seemed almost to forget there the midterms were going to happen, and going on the Daily Show was too little, too late.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)In fact Claire McCaskill's add talks about how she stood up to President Obama.
MineralMan
(146,254 posts)to make sure the lazy ones show up and vote across the board for Democrats. That's a job each one of us had.
If each of us takes just one Democratic voter to the polls with us, we double our vote. If we convince even more to go and vote, we can multiply our own vote many times.
If we do not do that, we will continue to falter with a lousy Congress and state legislatures.
I'm in 100% in GOTV. I hope everyone on DU is equally committed.
GOTV 2012! There's your Hope and Change.
Blue Idaho
(5,038 posts)Really, thanks for that...
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)Why people would vote for President Obama and then a repuke on the same ballot is beyond me. It's like trying to jump up and weighing yourself down with a two-ton anchor. It is lazy - intellectually lazy.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Due to prop 14, here are my choices...
Moderate republican or tea party crazee.
Some people have those choices.
pampango
(24,692 posts)further investment in tea party policies is how they want to proceed for another 4 years.
Like any losing party they will have an internal battle over the whether the party was too extreme to appeal to the middle or not extreme enough to motivate the base. It will be an interesting battle to watch.
Frankly I have not seen much indication that many republicans see the signs that US demographics are changing permanently. A whites-only oriented party is going to have a very, very difficult time getting elected in the future.
I think they will continue to pursue an obstructionist policy which will be bad for the country and even worse for the long term prospects of their party. It would take some intelligence and leadership from somewhere in their party to keep that from happening. Maybe if tea party candidates get blown out of the water in November that might happen, but it does not seem very likely.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)and also if that momentum can carry in to 2014, or if, again, there will be a pushback.
Viva_Daddy
(785 posts)joshcryer
(62,265 posts)The Democracy we have is basically designed to be obstructionist and slow change. In a fascist society it'd be easy enough to implement lots of things by decree. But the President is not a dictator.
The real problem is that Congress and the Senate no longer represent Americans. Apportionment and all.
dsc
(52,152 posts)To take my state as an example, Obama may well win here in NC, he also may well lose, it will be close either way. He won in 08 by less than 1 percent. If he wins with the same margin as in 08, he will win 3 of 13 Congressional districts. He will lose the other 10 by at least 5 points each. I think we will likely win four of those districts and we will win at most 5. It has nothing to do with lazy or non lazy Obama voters. In point of fact both Kissel and McIntyre will certainly do better than Obama does in their districts but they will have to do way, way better than he does.