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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:49 PM Sep 2012

There is something I want to make sure everyone here knows about CBS.

I don't know how much attention this story has gotten here -

CBS Hires Frank Luntz, The Man Who Reportedly Shepherded The Plan To Defeat Obama


In his book Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives, Draper reported that Luntz "organized a dinner" on Obama's inauguration night featuring a handful of "the Republican Party's most energetic thinkers." The attendees -- which included current vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan -- reportedly emerged from the nearly four hour dinner "almost giddily" after having agreed on "a way forward."

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/09/05/cbs-hires-frank-luntz-the-man-who-reportedly-sh/189755


Yes DUers - this is the same Frank Luntz that writes the talking points for faux.

CBS is no longer the news station of Dan Rather - so please keep that in mind when you are tuning in to CBS.

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There is something I want to make sure everyone here knows about CBS. (Original Post) jillan Sep 2012 OP
I noticed CBS taking a sharp turn to the 'right' when Pelley arrived on the scene. eom Purveyor Sep 2012 #1
I happen to think that you and I are very, very bright. russspeakeasy Sep 2012 #4
Not just Pelley, but that twit Nora O'Donnell in the morning is horrible. Avalux Sep 2012 #16
Didn't she smack Ryan down pretty good on Sunday? Only caught parts of it, canning season around Purveyor Sep 2012 #32
CBS wasn't the network of Dan Rather either--as he found out to his surprise. n/t librechik Sep 2012 #2
I think that the real reason that Dan Rather was fired was because of his interview with JDPriestly Sep 2012 #18
And fired because he has integrity and thinks telling asjr Sep 2012 #30
Me too. JDPriestly Sep 2012 #43
Murrow spins in his grave. navarth Sep 2012 #3
Good post, jillan. I stopped watching CBS news when they fired Dan Rather. pacalo Sep 2012 #5
We have a game at my house... Z_I_Peevey Sep 2012 #6
I haven't watched CBS in years or CNN, for that matter. Skidmore Sep 2012 #7
Thanks for the information lunatica Sep 2012 #8
I never watch network tv aint_no_life_nowhere Sep 2012 #9
Slanted and suppressed news items have been the case for many years.... dmosh42 Sep 2012 #10
I've been watching this great news show on HBO "newsroom" Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #11
I think that's why The Newsroom is such a hit. People crave that kind of reporting and jillan Sep 2012 #14
K&R nt avebury Sep 2012 #12
CBS is definitely breathing the fumes from the Republican cesspool Berlum Sep 2012 #13
The corporate media is first, last and foremost the corporate media Uncle Joe Sep 2012 #15
Wow, Uncle Joe! I LOVE THIS!!! calimary Sep 2012 #19
DUZY! But just wondering, you not a fan of alp227 Sep 2012 #21
From a personal level Uncle Joe Sep 2012 #24
CNBC = "Crap, Nothing But Conservatives" HughBeaumont Sep 2012 #25
+1! uponit7771 Sep 2012 #40
While reporting about Michelle O's speech, the news ticker said "Mitt Romney AllyCat Sep 2012 #17
Is WISC owned and operated by CBS? alp227 Sep 2012 #22
It's a CBS station so I assume it is. AllyCat Sep 2012 #41
Some TV stations are owned by the networks themselves, alp227 Sep 2012 #42
People here watch the network "news"? It hasn't resemble anything like journalism for years. (nt) harmonicon Sep 2012 #20
I think I'll start watching the Cartoon Network for news. n/t RoccoR5955 Sep 2012 #23
And much more realistic too. I miss Cartoon Network, on antenna now. Mnemosyne Sep 2012 #33
Mike Malloy had a great rant about this alp227 Sep 2012 #26
Good!! We need to get this out there. WTH does "news" need talking points??? jillan Sep 2012 #31
I'll check out your channel dreamnightwind Sep 2012 #37
K&R DeSwiss Sep 2012 #27
His eyes look so very 'dead' and cold. Mnemosyne Sep 2012 #34
During the DNC, the CBS Los Angeles website had zero mentions of the convention. lexw Sep 2012 #28
I don't tweet or have a tv but is there a way this Cha Sep 2012 #29
I tweeted the story... YvonneCa Sep 2012 #35
Good little Tweety Cha Sep 2012 #39
I won't have to keep that in mind because I won't be tuning in to CBS. Auntie Bush Sep 2012 #36
Its not really CBS; its Westinghouse. Blanks Sep 2012 #38

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
16. Not just Pelley, but that twit Nora O'Donnell in the morning is horrible.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:21 PM
Sep 2012

She does her best to make Romney look good.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
32. Didn't she smack Ryan down pretty good on Sunday? Only caught parts of it, canning season around
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:47 PM
Sep 2012

here...

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
18. I think that the real reason that Dan Rather was fired was because of his interview with
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:47 PM
Sep 2012

Saddam Hussein on the eve of the invasion of Iraq. That interview is a historical record and evidence that George W. Bush invaded Iraq based on a lie. Saddam Hussein responded to the accusation that he had WMDs. He responded honestly, and GWB invaded anyway. In so doing, GWB violated international law in my opinion.

asjr

(10,479 posts)
30. And fired because he has integrity and thinks telling
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:58 PM
Sep 2012

the truth is the way to go. I can't stand any of the news now. I am still with certain MSNBC people, but I left CNN years ago. Thinks he is a Wolf, Blitzer's voice makes me cringe.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
43. Me too.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 12:59 PM
Sep 2012

I was so happy to see Dan Rather on MSNBC the other evening.

He may have a show on the internet tonight.

navarth

(5,927 posts)
3. Murrow spins in his grave.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:04 PM
Sep 2012

(on edit) What used to be the best, most trustworthy network slithers closer to Fox Fake News. Very sad indeed. What the hell, I watch Current anyway.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
5. Good post, jillan. I stopped watching CBS news when they fired Dan Rather.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:08 PM
Sep 2012

It had been my network news of choice for years. My disgust was cemented when CBS hired Katie Couric; I didn't watch even one of her newscasts or anyone else's since Rather's unscrupulous, political dismissal.

I see I haven't missed much. Networks are pretty much the play toys of their corporate owners; the hiring of Frank Luntz by the once-employer of Edward R. Murrow couldn't illustrate that better.

Z_I_Peevey

(2,783 posts)
6. We have a game at my house...
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:08 PM
Sep 2012

Because I prefer my local CBS affiliate for local weather, I watch the local CBS morning show. When they switch to the national CBS morning show, we count how many seconds/stories it takes them to get to John McCain. We call it the "McCain Network." There's not much they don't require his opinion about, and whenever he might be unavailable they of course have backup Republicans on.

Can't change the channel fast enough.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
7. I haven't watched CBS in years or CNN, for that matter.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:14 PM
Sep 2012

Both have for some time been trying to emulate Fox.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
9. I never watch network tv
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:20 PM
Sep 2012

and I was addicted to it as a kid in the 1960s. The programming became so rank that I just stopped watching anything.

dmosh42

(2,217 posts)
10. Slanted and suppressed news items have been the case for many years....
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:22 PM
Sep 2012

especially if it might cast a bad light on the ruling money class, who owns the media in most of the "free" world.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
11. I've been watching this great news show on HBO "newsroom"
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:24 PM
Sep 2012

oh wait, that's fiction. There is no such news show.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
14. I think that's why The Newsroom is such a hit. People crave that kind of reporting and
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:00 PM
Sep 2012

really can't find it with the exception of a few.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
13. CBS is definitely breathing the fumes from the Republican cesspool
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:50 PM
Sep 2012

and then exhaling them out over the airwaves. CBS has crapped the bed in terms of journalistic integrity and credibility -- and it is sad to see it as just another corporate (R) propaganda catapult.

Uncle Joe

(58,111 posts)
15. The corporate media is first, last and foremost the corporate media
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:16 PM
Sep 2012

CBS Corporate Broadcasting System
ABC All About Corporations
NBC Nothing But Corporations
MSNBC More Stealthy Nothing But Corporations
CNN Corporate News Now
FOX Fascist Owned Xenophobes

Thanks for the thread, jillian.

calimary

(80,693 posts)
19. Wow, Uncle Joe! I LOVE THIS!!!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:17 PM
Sep 2012

VERY clever, and sadly, VERY true:

CBS Corporate Broadcasting System
ABC All About Corporations
NBC Nothing But Corporations
MSNBC More Stealthy Nothing But Corporations
CNN Corporate News Now
FOX Fascist Owned Xenophobes

Um... WHAT "Liberal Media?????????"

Uncle Joe

(58,111 posts)
24. From a personal level
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:31 PM
Sep 2012

I like them both and they do well within their confines.

Having said that, the corporate media's reporting as an institution is dysfunctional, rife with financial conflict of interest and inbred limitation when reporting on the public good versus private benefits.

It's the system.

AllyCat

(16,035 posts)
17. While reporting about Michelle O's speech, the news ticker said "Mitt Romney
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:31 PM
Sep 2012

accepts Presidential nomination at RNC" as if days later, that was breaking news? Local channel in Madison WISC TV3 and of course, the CBS channel. Now I know why that happened.

alp227

(31,960 posts)
22. Is WISC owned and operated by CBS?
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:27 PM
Sep 2012

If not, then the company that owns WISC hired crummy news editors.

AllyCat

(16,035 posts)
41. It's a CBS station so I assume it is.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 01:49 AM
Sep 2012

But this is the first I have turned on teevee news in about 8 years so who knows.

alp227

(31,960 posts)
42. Some TV stations are owned by the networks themselves,
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 02:10 AM
Sep 2012

(see this wikipedia article for more info) others are owned by third party companies not related to the network but are contracted to carry network programming. Usually the "O&O" stations are in big cities.

For example, my local ABC, CBS, and NBC stations are all network O&O'd. However, my local Fox station is owned by Cox Communications (thus I can be sure that Rupert Murdoch's dirty money isn't tainting the local news). Meanwhile, a couple hours' drive away from your neighborhood, the Chicago ABC, CBS, Fox, and NBC stations are all O&O. O&O TV stations are such closely tied with the parent networks they share branding, graphics, etc., for example why the ABC-owned channel 7 stations in Chicagoland, LA, NYC, and the SF Bay Area all share the same "circle 7" logo. Or why WCBS (NYC) and WBBM (Chicagoland) websites are both under "CBSlocal.com". Or why the news graphics for ABC7 in NYC and ABC7 in SF look so similar.

The darker side of third party companies owning network affiliates? Take Sinclair Broadcast Group, a notoriously right-wing-run company that actively pushed a pro Bush agenda in '04 by censoring that Nightline edition where Ted Koppel read the names of dead Iraq war soldiers and making all the stations show a movie that swift-boated John Kerry. Or more recently, the company that owns the NBC affiliate in Salt Lake City (which has repeaters throughout Utah thus is essentially the ONLY way to watch NBC in Utah) deciding to censor shows too offensive to Mormons (The Playboy Club last year, this year The New Normal).

To be short, CBS News didn't write the news ticker, rather it must've been the fresh-outta-college intern at the station lazily reading AP copy.

You're right, TV news does suck both at the local and national level, and I watch only PBS NewsHour on TV and watch Democracy Now and Rachel Maddow and Thom Hartmann (who has a TV show and simulcasts his radio show on Free Speech TV so he counts) online. For local news I read my local newspaper website and listen to the local NPR station. The commercial stations' "local news" are pretty much the same ol' kidnapped child, inner-city murder, amazing local figure in the community INFOTAINMENT with too little coverage of local politics (in fact studies have shown that local political coverage on TV news has gone DOWN.)

alp227

(31,960 posts)
26. Mike Malloy had a great rant about this
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:36 PM
Sep 2012

ending his friday show, I will post on youtube soon, my channel with a lot of malloy archives is andrewsaccount09

lexw

(804 posts)
28. During the DNC, the CBS Los Angeles website had zero mentions of the convention.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:46 PM
Sep 2012

I used to look at the CBS L.A. website daily for local news, I have since switched to a local news source (Daily Breeze).

Cha

(295,899 posts)
29. I don't tweet or have a tv but is there a way this
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:47 PM
Sep 2012

post can be condensed and tweeted to others and cbs, jillan?

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
38. Its not really CBS; its Westinghouse.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:23 PM
Sep 2012

Its really no different than the 'Hate Radio' personalities fawning over Romney.

When you have a president that isn't committed to war; the network that profits from war is going to work to bring him down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_defense_contractors

follow the Westinghouse link and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westinghouse_Electric_Corporation

This article is about the defunct Westinghouse Electric Corporation founded in 1886, renamed CBS Corporation in 1997, and purchased by Viacom in 1999. For the present-day industrial company, see Westinghouse Electric Company. For other uses of the term "Westinghouse" including modern incarnations and recent licensing deals, see Westinghouse (disambiguation).


It really is that 'Military Industrial Complex' that Eisenhower warned about. When you think about Romney's (and Ryan's) moronic stance on reviving the cold war; its the only thing that makes sense. We really need to pass some anti-monopoly laws to prevent this kind of cheerleading for war.
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