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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere Is A New E-mail Going Around Today By Repug's Citing Jan 3, 2007 As Being A Watershed Day.....
January 3rd, 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress. The gist of the e-mail is that everything was going hunky-dory in the Bush Administration and then went south once the Dems took over Congress. If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself as he was part of that Congress as a Senator.
I received this from a Repug friend that sends me this crap all the time and I just ignore it rather than getting in a pissing contest with him.
Any thoughts on how to refute this? This is the first I've seen or heard of this and I don't have a comeback. Any help would be appreciated. Or should I just ignore this one too?
Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)only points out the public's dissatisfaction of how things were going under Bush. If things were going so swimmingly why did public kick the Republicans to the curb?
Blue Belle
(5,912 posts)people keep forgetting that you need 60 to have a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.
January 20, 2009 Edward Kennedy suffered a seizure during Barack Obama's inaugural luncheon, and his health forced him to retreat to Massachusetts. Also, Senator Al Franken of Minnesota had not been seated because the previous Senator, Norm Coleman challenged the election results. So on his inauguration Obama had 57 elected Democratic Senators
55 Democrats and 2 Independents.
April 28, 2009 Arlan Specter switches parties from Republican to Democratic. This gives the Democrats 58
56 seated Democrats, 2 Independents. Al Franken still hasnt been sworn in and Kennedy is sick. Still no 60 member majority.
May 15, 2009 Senator Robert Byrd is admitted to the hospital reducing the number of Democratic votes to 57
55 Democrats, 2 Independents.
July 7, 2009 Senator Al Franken is sworn in bringing the Democratic votes back up to 58
56 sitting Democrats, 2 Independents. No Senator Kennedy or Byrd due to illness.
July 21, 2009 Senator Byrd Returns to the Senate making the count 59 seats Still no Kennedy.
August 25, 2009 Senator Kennedy dies and the seat remains vacant until
September 24, 2009 Interim Senator Paul Kirk is sworn in to fill Kennedys seat bringing the total Democratic votes to a filibuster proof majority of 60.
So really the Democrats only had 4 months of a majority in the Senate (less if you count the congressional recesses) not 2 years (even less when you consider that Senator Lieberman sided with the Republicans most of the time). Because they didnt have a majority, nothing could be automatically pushed through the Senate - concessions had to be made. You may also want to point out that during the Obama administration, there has been an unprecidented amount of Filibusters from the GOP.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Ask for specifics or tell them to STFU
RedStateLiberal
(1,374 posts)What specific legislation did Dems pass in 2007/2008 that caused the economy to crash?
If any, then why did Bush sign such legislation into law? Dems in Congress did NOT have a veto-proof majority at the time so why was Bush going along with this supposed destructive Democratic agenda?
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)and didn't even have to register with the SEC. I remember seeing headlines to that effect in the NY Times as late as 2007. Bush canned his SEC Chairman Republican William Donaldson who warned of the financial meltdown to come if we didn't regulate the "dark markets" and appointed Chris Cox who continued to approve of the Bush policy of deregulation until the bitter end.
speedoo
(11,229 posts)it conveniently ignores the fact that Bush and his fellow thugs got us stuck in an unnecessary war in Iraq, while also forcing the passage of irresponsible tax cuts, thereby exploding what was a surplus into a staggering deficit.. Not to mention ignoring Al Queda and allowing 9/11 to happen.
I understand it's been making the rounds for a couple of years now.