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geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 05:53 PM Jun 2020

MPLS Police Union President: "I've been involved in three shootings myself..." and not a one of

Minneapolis Police Union President: "I've been involved in three shootings myself, and not a one of them has bothered me."

https://theintercept.com/2020/06/02/minneapolis-police-union-bob-kroll-shootings/

IN AN INTERVIEW in April, Lt. Bob Kroll, head of Minneapolis’s police union, said that he and a majority of the Minneapolis Police Officers’ Federation’s board have been involved in police shootings. Kroll said that he and the officers on the union’s board were not bothered by the shootings, comparing themselves favorably to other officers.

“There’s been a big influx of PTSD,” Kroll said. “But I’ve been involved in three shootings myself, and not one of them has bothered me. Maybe I’m different.”

His comments underscore the rampant nature of police violence in the United States. The number of times police officers fire their weapons swamps the level of violence in most other countries, where authorities rely on nonlethal methods of coercion, persuasion, or control. Many police officers live with post-traumatic stress disorder induced by the violence associated with policing.

But not Kroll’s crew, he said. “Out of the 10 board members, over half of them have been involved in armed encounters, and several of us multiple. We don’t seem to have problems,” he said. “Certainly getting shot at and shooting people takes a different toll, but if you’re in this job and you’ve seen too much blood and gore and dead people then you’ve signed up for the wrong job.”


Uh, Bob, you're in the wrong line of business. You need to resign.
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MPLS Police Union President: "I've been involved in three shootings myself..." and not a one of (Original Post) geardaddy Jun 2020 OP
If shooting people doesn't bother you, Bob, you're probably a sociopath. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #1
+1000000 crickets Jun 2020 #38
So the Police Federation Legal Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #2
slipped right by me. stillcool Jun 2020 #12
this guy is beyond belief. Mike 03 Jun 2020 #3
that fucker needs to be fired for cause gopiscrap Jun 2020 #4
His Union would need to do that. maxsolomon Jun 2020 #14
yup that's because almost all cops are sociopath's gopiscrap Jun 2020 #16
That's a pretty broad brush. maxsolomon Jun 2020 #20
almost every cop I have ever met has fit that gopiscrap Jun 2020 #21
This sucker is true piece of work and not in a good way. Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #19
Oh, I know geardaddy Jun 2020 #24
Is this the dickhead that spoke at the Trump rally? dem4decades Jun 2020 #5
Yes n/t geardaddy Jun 2020 #22
You always used to get these cops saying "I never used my gun" greenjar_01 Jun 2020 #6
Does Blackwater still exist sounds like his type of doc03 Jun 2020 #7
Last I heard, it was called "Xi" or some shit...nt Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #30
More Wondrous Musings. jayfish Jun 2020 #8
He's a complete piece of shit. n/t geardaddy Jun 2020 #25
You are definitely differnet, Kroll. You are a fucking psychopathic bastard. roamer65 Jun 2020 #9
Some things I've learned from the handful of combat vets I've known... JHB Jun 2020 #10
A Marine in Vietnam that was in my company dware Jun 2020 #27
When I was young, in NY, they used to say marybourg Jun 2020 #11
"...not one of them has bothered me. Maybe I'm different." csziggy Jun 2020 #13
Help me understand this maxrandb Jun 2020 #15
"Three" that we know about. nt oasis Jun 2020 #17
He needs to lose his badge. Crunchy Frog Jun 2020 #18
Therein Lies The Problem ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #23
MSNBC's Chris Hayes will cover the operation of police unions tonight. oasis Jun 2020 #26
Thanks for the tip. geardaddy Jun 2020 #28
You're welcome. Subject was a most informative segment of Haye's show. oasis Jun 2020 #29
Kroll is a racist thug and a sociopath dalton99a Jun 2020 #31
The NLRB needs to rethink the existence of police unions geardaddy Jun 2020 #34
Please, someone call the BAU... Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #32
That statement disqualifies you from police work. MineralMan Jun 2020 #33
Exactly. n/t geardaddy Jun 2020 #35
Sociopaths Arazi Jun 2020 #36
The guy is certifiably stupid Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 #37

crickets

(25,962 posts)
38. +1000000
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 04:06 PM
Jun 2020

How kind of him to let everyone know. I don't think his remarks are going to get the response he's expecting.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
3. this guy is beyond belief.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 05:57 PM
Jun 2020

He just keeps digging. This type of "support" he's expressing isn't normal advocacy. Something deeper is going on with him. It reminds me of that lunatic Sheriff David Clarke, where he says so much more than is actually appropriate to express his support of Trump.

gopiscrap

(23,756 posts)
16. yup that's because almost all cops are sociopath's
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:36 PM
Jun 2020

that's the main reason why they become cops, so they can kill people under the color of law

maxsolomon

(33,310 posts)
20. That's a pretty broad brush.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:52 PM
Jun 2020

I'd say SOME fit your description.

Now, if you want to apply that to Police Union Presidents...

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
19. This sucker is true piece of work and not in a good way.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:51 PM
Jun 2020

His reputation in the Twin Cities is well known and it is not positive.

Notice that some Unions are calling for the Police Federation to remove him from office.

geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
24. Oh, I know
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:05 PM
Jun 2020

I'm a born and bred Minneapolitan and have followed this piece of shit for years.

Yep, I had another OP on that: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213537749

I'm glad to see the AFL-CIO weigh in.

I support labor. The only union I don't support are police unions.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
6. You always used to get these cops saying "I never used my gun"
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:05 PM
Jun 2020

Not in Minneapolis, apparently. Chauvin shot and killed at least one person in the past, and shot others. He was out there blasting. This fucking shithead also, pew pew pew. Defund this fucking occupying army ASAP. And get this moron some counseling. Yeesh.

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
8. More Wondrous Musings.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:06 PM
Jun 2020
“You’re giving away money left and right in lawsuits, and you want us to take a bath? So forget it,” Kroll said, adding that the settlement with the family of Terrance Franklin particularly bothered him. Franklin, a burglary suspect, unarmed and 173 pounds, was found hiding in a basement by five officers who unleashed a dog on him. His family’s attorneys say an officer’s semiautomatic weapon accidentally went off, hitting two officers in the legs, and police responded by shooting and killing Franklin in anger. Police claimed that Franklin attacked an officer and took control of the gun, a charge the family’s attorneys said was absurd and contradicted by evidence. The city eventually agreed to a $795,000 settlement. Kroll said that a good friend of his had killed Franklin: “stepped up and shot him in the head at close range.”


One of the most disgusting things I've ever read.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
9. You are definitely differnet, Kroll. You are a fucking psychopathic bastard.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:07 PM
Jun 2020

I hope Keith Ellison puts you in prison, you fuckwad.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
10. Some things I've learned from the handful of combat vets I've known...
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:08 PM
Jun 2020

...well enough for them to comment on some of their experiences when I'm around.

They all have variations of a couple of core stories, differing mainly in the details:

One such story is "the guys with the biggest mouths were the ones farthest in the back."

Another is "anybody who says they were in a firefight and boasts they 'didn't have problems' is either a liar or a psycho."

dware

(12,363 posts)
27. A Marine in Vietnam that was in my company
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 08:13 PM
Jun 2020

claimed he had no fear of being shot at and no problem shooting people, I went to my Sgt. and told him to keep that psycho away from me, he was subsequently shot and killed by the VC during a firefight in which the idiot stood up and was immediately put down like the rabid dog he was.

Can't say I was exactly heart broken by his demise.

marybourg

(12,620 posts)
11. When I was young, in NY, they used to say
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:16 PM
Jun 2020

that most police officers would spend their entire career never having drawn their guns except to clean and care for them.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
13. "...not one of them has bothered me. Maybe I'm different."
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:23 PM
Jun 2020

Maybe you are a sociopath that puts no value on human life - at least the lives of those you consider "other."

If shooting people does not bother you, Kroll, you need to be prohibited from owning a gun or using one as part of your job.

maxrandb

(15,320 posts)
15. Help me understand this
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:36 PM
Jun 2020

Was this guy elected by the rank and file Minneapolis Police Officers?

What the ever-loving-fuck

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
23. Therein Lies The Problem
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:58 PM
Jun 2020

Cops who have absolutely no compunction with shooting someone, no matter the circumstances, should not be cops.
Using a last resort should give anybody pause.

oasis

(49,376 posts)
29. You're welcome. Subject was a most informative segment of Haye's show.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 10:33 AM
Jun 2020

It's an issue that should gain more media attention going forward.

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