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Minneapolis Police Union President: "I've been involved in three shootings myself, and not a one of them has bothered me."
https://theintercept.com/2020/06/02/minneapolis-police-union-bob-kroll-shootings/
Theres been a big influx of PTSD, Kroll said. But Ive been involved in three shootings myself, and not one of them has bothered me. Maybe Im different.
His comments underscore the rampant nature of police violence in the United States. The number of times police officers fire their weapons swamps the level of violence in most other countries, where authorities rely on nonlethal methods of coercion, persuasion, or control. Many police officers live with post-traumatic stress disorder induced by the violence associated with policing.
But not Krolls crew, he said. Out of the 10 board members, over half of them have been involved in armed encounters, and several of us multiple. We dont seem to have problems, he said. Certainly getting shot at and shooting people takes a different toll, but if youre in this job and youve seen too much blood and gore and dead people then youve signed up for the wrong job.
Uh, Bob, you're in the wrong line of business. You need to resign.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,673 posts)crickets
(25,962 posts)How kind of him to let everyone know. I don't think his remarks are going to get the response he's expecting.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Staff is going all in with PTSD as their defense.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)thanks
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)He just keeps digging. This type of "support" he's expressing isn't normal advocacy. Something deeper is going on with him. It reminds me of that lunatic Sheriff David Clarke, where he says so much more than is actually appropriate to express his support of Trump.
gopiscrap
(23,756 posts)the problem is that almost all cops are like that
maxsolomon
(33,310 posts)One imagines they elected him knowing he was a Sociopath.
gopiscrap
(23,756 posts)that's the main reason why they become cops, so they can kill people under the color of law
maxsolomon
(33,310 posts)I'd say SOME fit your description.
Now, if you want to apply that to Police Union Presidents...
gopiscrap
(23,756 posts)discription. I stand by what I said
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)His reputation in the Twin Cities is well known and it is not positive.
Notice that some Unions are calling for the Police Federation to remove him from office.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)I'm a born and bred Minneapolitan and have followed this piece of shit for years.
Yep, I had another OP on that: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213537749
I'm glad to see the AFL-CIO weigh in.
I support labor. The only union I don't support are police unions.
dem4decades
(11,282 posts)geardaddy
(24,926 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Not in Minneapolis, apparently. Chauvin shot and killed at least one person in the past, and shot others. He was out there blasting. This fucking shithead also, pew pew pew. Defund this fucking occupying army ASAP. And get this moron some counseling. Yeesh.
doc03
(35,325 posts)people.
Wounded Bear
(58,645 posts)jayfish
(10,039 posts)Youre giving away money left and right in lawsuits, and you want us to take a bath? So forget it, Kroll said, adding that the settlement with the family of Terrance Franklin particularly bothered him. Franklin, a burglary suspect, unarmed and 173 pounds, was found hiding in a basement by five officers who unleashed a dog on him. His familys attorneys say an officers semiautomatic weapon accidentally went off, hitting two officers in the legs, and police responded by shooting and killing Franklin in anger. Police claimed that Franklin attacked an officer and took control of the gun, a charge the familys attorneys said was absurd and contradicted by evidence. The city eventually agreed to a $795,000 settlement. Kroll said that a good friend of his had killed Franklin: stepped up and shot him in the head at close range.
One of the most disgusting things I've ever read.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)I hope Keith Ellison puts you in prison, you fuckwad.
JHB
(37,158 posts)...well enough for them to comment on some of their experiences when I'm around.
They all have variations of a couple of core stories, differing mainly in the details:
One such story is "the guys with the biggest mouths were the ones farthest in the back."
Another is "anybody who says they were in a firefight and boasts they 'didn't have problems' is either a liar or a psycho."
dware
(12,363 posts)claimed he had no fear of being shot at and no problem shooting people, I went to my Sgt. and told him to keep that psycho away from me, he was subsequently shot and killed by the VC during a firefight in which the idiot stood up and was immediately put down like the rabid dog he was.
Can't say I was exactly heart broken by his demise.
marybourg
(12,620 posts)that most police officers would spend their entire career never having drawn their guns except to clean and care for them.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)Maybe you are a sociopath that puts no value on human life - at least the lives of those you consider "other."
If shooting people does not bother you, Kroll, you need to be prohibited from owning a gun or using one as part of your job.
maxrandb
(15,320 posts)Was this guy elected by the rank and file Minneapolis Police Officers?
What the ever-loving-fuck
oasis
(49,376 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,579 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)Cops who have absolutely no compunction with shooting someone, no matter the circumstances, should not be cops.
Using a last resort should give anybody pause.
oasis
(49,376 posts)Show starts 8:00 est
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)oasis
(49,376 posts)It's an issue that should gain more media attention going forward.
dalton99a
(81,450 posts)as is typical of police union presidents
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,645 posts)MineralMan
(146,286 posts)Resign now, Kroll!
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,919 posts)No one should brag that.