I can't imagine that any of us can know for certain. The larger point here is that we don't put people to death over a bad bill (or for a whole host of offenses). If the same thing had happened to somebody who wasn't a POC, there is no way that anything like this would have happened to them.

carrying "that 20"


and we would know.

Mr. Floyd was brutally murdered for nothing.

Of course he was

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counterfeit bill and he knew it was counterfeit, why didn't he leave the scene?

I would have left if I knew it was fake.

The store clerks came out to his car, asked for the cigarettes back and they were rebuffed. Floyd and his companions nonchalantly stayed at the scene.

before they ring up the purchase

Common practice.

Is counterfeit.
So the odds are all of us have carried one or more at any given time.

And there are some very good counterfeits made by China & others.

Guy seemed nice but what do you know? I crossed my fingers at the bank. It looked like the new bills he said he got from his bank but they are good at counterfeit.

I received a bad bill once and unknowingly tried to use it to pay for goods Nothing happened to me other than the retailer not accepting it

He didn't try to run. The store told him it was a bad bill, and he went to his car to see if he had another 20.

and got passed a couple bad bills, mostly twenties, which I didn't notice when I was accepting them but noticed when I was counting up at the end of the day. The thickness of the paper was a bit off. There were some pretty good fakes out there in circulation twenty years ago and I imagine the technology has only gotten better.

It's entirely plausible for someone to have been given a fake as change or from an ATM and then to try to spend it without noticing it's a fake.

when we drove to the coast for the day trip. We got money out of a cash machine. One of the twenties must have gotten smudged by the rollers in the machine. We bought food somewhere and the cops pulled us over to question us about the "counterfeit." This was before the days of watermarks. We had to go back and give the store another bill. The cops took the suspicious twenty to check with a bank after the weekend. It was mailed back to us later.

None of us was arrested, handcuffed or choked to death.

I had gotten it at a bank and then went to a different bank to deposit it (long story that involved buying a car). The bank just wanted to know where I got it and I told them what bank it came from. They told me to sit down and wait in case any more info was needed while they reported it to the FBI. After that I was free to go.

Not the FBI.

When I worked at Disney back in the day, we saw quite a few bad bills. We got training from the Secret Service to spot them.

I still do a spot check on my bills.

It's left to FBI to refer to secret service.
I was on the board of a large credit union for around 20 years. We had to review & approve teller & supervisor training & counterfeiting was part of it.
I recall that the supervisor responsibility was to contact local cops or the local FBI office. In our case, there was a small FBI office in our city, so we had convenient access to them.
There's likely a treasury department office in Chicago, but not local. So, FBI it was.

I can probably spot a fake...with that said.

I never check anything below a $50 and I rarely ever carry denominations that large. If I go to a store where they have to check a $20....I'm going to avoid that store. Plus I usually get my cash from an ATM, so it should be OK. When I do get cash from the supermarket, its less than $30.

But then again, who knows how many times I may have received a counterfeit or passed one off unknowingly. One thing I've always noticed, only large bills get scrutinized....and yet I've gotten some one dollar and five dollar bills that obviously went through the ringer..how do I know they weren't intentionally made that way?

Your not going to get "rich" doing that, but....$15 in gas here and there, some quick groceries every once in the while...particularly if your out of town, road trip, etc. It would make life for someone a bit easier....and recollect from my econ courses, some counterfeiters never use the money they make in the USA....but flows back our way eventually. But going big time, usually results in you getting caught...like the bank robber who returns to the same banks to rob after awhile, they get careless and assume they won't get caught.

$20 from my own bank! I hesitate to talk about these personal stories, but I did my routine of withdrawing money from the bank to take right over to the credit union to pay bills. The credit union teller said one of the $20’s wasn’t running through the machine. It had all been in a bank envelope I handed to her.

Long story short, they had to keep the $20 to take out of circulation, but get this! They fill out a form to the Secret Service and attach the $20. But the form has my name on it as presenting it to the bank.
I’m still furious over it.

We’re going to file a police report, and the branch manager was excellent, but it was a bad scene when I went back to the teller I got it from and his coworker was a snot and I wasn’t in the mood for her bullshit. What a hassle.

I guess stores call the police, but I went from one bank to another. It’s scary to think what could have happened in a store and they called the police.

The bank manager said they wear gloves now with Covid and can’t feel the money the same way. I just assumed any money from the banks were run through their machines before giving to a customer, but they said they didn’t have one — this was at a grocery store branch, so very small. All the other big branches keep closing because of Covid. So irritating.

Anyway, that’s my public service announcement. Have the banks check each bill before you leave. I’m afraid of ATMs until everything reopens and I’m sure of the bill checking.

Oh, and on top of that, some banks won’t reimburse you. Ours did but it’s an aged account, etc.

how about that

totally