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I'm terrified and heartbroken thinking about what this country will look like by November (Original Post) StarfishSaver Jun 2020 OP
We've gotten this far, wounded and disillusioned, but we'll make it until trump defeated. Hoyt Jun 2020 #1
Day by day, starfish. roamer65 Jun 2020 #2
I know. StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #3
I'm right there with you, StarfishSaver. It has been a hard day today. BComplex Jun 2020 #11
what about eleven weeks of lame duck revenge assault on the world? Grasswire2 Jun 2020 #4
A Trump lame duck period scares the hell out of me. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2020 #16
We're in an extremely dark moment in our history, but know the sun is about to emerge on the horizon herding cats Jun 2020 #5
I see that the majority of people are united against the racism, bigotry, and sexism that has been still_one Jun 2020 #6
Changing our biased society... OldBaldy1701E Jun 2020 #26
At the local level it doesn't have to wait until November, but when you have a still_one Jun 2020 #28
We live in 'interesting times' alittlelark Jun 2020 #7
Whatever steps we can take to build the structure that we'll need to recover from this. NBachers Jun 2020 #8
We suvived the '60s... it's merely on steroids now. We'll be fine. Talitha Jun 2020 #9
I'm preparing for nuclear fall out, no seriously ... Trump would Frog Nuke a city & not give a damn uponit7771 Jun 2020 #10
Launching a nuke while screaming sarcasmo Jun 2020 #24
If trump loses support at the current rate it will become a non-problem before then. mwb970 Jun 2020 #12
True StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #13
You are correct... ZenDem Jun 2020 #14
Except he is not the problem Cosmocat Jun 2020 #20
Agree. dhol82 Jun 2020 #27
That's a concern yes. it's really Roc2020 Jun 2020 #15
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2020 #17
I feel like we'll look like New York in Avengers: Endgame. Initech Jun 2020 #18
Britain survived the U2s and bombers....we will survive ashredux Jun 2020 #19
When I was deployed OCONUS for the third time, Star, majdrfrtim Jun 2020 #21
We will survive this. Our country will survive this. We are stronger than Donald Trump and his Nitram Jun 2020 #22
Together we shall overcome. BarbD Jun 2020 #23
Humty Dumty took a big fall friend of m and j Jun 2020 #25
It is our responsibility to make it right randr Jun 2020 #29

BComplex

(7,980 posts)
11. I'm right there with you, StarfishSaver. It has been a hard day today.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 03:14 AM
Jun 2020

I just feel like we are swimming upstream.

Grasswire2

(13,564 posts)
4. what about eleven weeks of lame duck revenge assault on the world?
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 11:56 PM
Jun 2020

Please join the call for him to resign NOW, in disgrace.

And take his little dog Pence with him.

He won't, but putting the pressure on might make him blow sooner.

16. A Trump lame duck period scares the hell out of me.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 02:02 PM
Jun 2020

In addition to the lawsuit he'll immediately file with the SCOTUS to throw out the results of the election, he'll be even more unhinged than he's been ever since the GOP Senate told him, "Do whatever you want. We've got your back." At the very least, Moscow Mitch will be keeping the Senate in session 24/7 to approve another 100-plus lifetime federal judgeships. Trump will get a cramp in is hand from signing so many executive orders. The first one will turn all public lands over to private interests for development and exploitation. And God knows how much pressure will be put on RBG to retire so Fat Donnie gets to appoint one more justice.

Of course, he'll use Bill Barr to go after every person he perceives as an enemy. If Fat Donnie can't lock someone up, he can at least bankrupt them with the legal fees associated with defending themselves.

herding cats

(19,549 posts)
5. We're in an extremely dark moment in our history, but know the sun is about to emerge on the horizon
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:10 AM
Jun 2020

The only good thing about all of this is Trump's response, not to mention his teargassing law abiding Americans, is blowing up in his face. As it should.

I suspect he'll escalate more before he's gone, but I'm more hopeful he'll be gone than I was a month ago.

still_one

(91,946 posts)
6. I see that the majority of people are united against the racism, bigotry, and sexism that has been
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:42 AM
Jun 2020

an integral part of the country since its inception, and the majority have had enough

George Floyd has awaken an ugly part of America that many have ignored far too long. That along with the pandemic, and unemployment I believe are the catalyst that will start to usher in the change that is so desperately needed, and November will be the first step toward that change







OldBaldy1701E

(4,968 posts)
26. Changing our biased society...
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 06:36 AM
Jun 2020

does not have to wait until November. I am wondering if some people understand what needs to change. Our political situation is just not as important as our societal situation, as these protests will attest to. (I don't remember protests on this scale when Trump won the election, nor do I remember seeing any protests of this magnitude over the crap he has done since. (Yes, there were protests, but not to this level). Stupid politicians are a dime a dozen, but our political structure has checks and balances. Our modern society is rather wide open when it comes to that idea, but seldom does it make it into practice. If you want this shit to never happen again, things are going to have to change within our culture, and I see little to no effort on that front. What is happening around the globe may spark something, but I am concerned about here in the US, where I hear talk all the time, but see little action. Until now. Let's see if it really begets change, or become just another video moment that will be swept under the rug by next week.

still_one

(91,946 posts)
28. At the local level it doesn't have to wait until November, but when you have a
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:48 AM
Jun 2020

Senate, which has a republican party which has sold its soul to the devil, it will be difficult at the National Level to get things moving.

Your skepticism is understandable based on past history, and to some degree I share that skepticism, but I prefer to look at the potential for real change to happen this time





alittlelark

(18,886 posts)
7. We live in 'interesting times'
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:46 AM
Jun 2020

We will get thru these times - true change can only come about in times like these.

But, yeah, it's gonna SUCK for awhile.

NBachers

(17,000 posts)
8. Whatever steps we can take to build the structure that we'll need to recover from this.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 01:39 AM
Jun 2020

We had some decent electoral news over the last couple of days. Let's keep building on that.

New York is having a special election on June 23rd, their Primary Day, to fill the seat left vacant when republican crook Chris Collins was convicted of insider trading from the White House lawn.

Democrat / Working Families Party candidate Nate McMurray is a strong and outspoken candidate who came within .37% of beating Collins in the 2018 election. He's built a strong and loyal grassroots ground game. He's got what it takes to change Western New York from Carl Paladino country to an enduring Democratic district. I'm thousands of miles from his district, but I've adopted him as my candidate to push.

McMurray will be a strong and active member of the House of Representatives, and his representation will generate strong Democratic loyalty in a district long dominated and neglected by republicans.

Our support will help build the social / political structure we need to recover from 50+ years of republican abuse.

https://secure.actblue.com/donate/nate-mcmurray-4

https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk003Alj-5Qy5nukd1-mHPgxeQJ8y3w%3A1591248961009&source=hp&ei=QIjYXuC2O6DK0PEP0Iak-AU&q=nate+mcmurray+for+congress&oq=Nate&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQARgAMgQIIxAnMgUIABCxAzIFCAAQsQMyBQgAELEDMgUIABCDATIFCAAQsQMyBQgAELEDMgUIABCxAzIFCAAQgwEyBQgAEIMBOgUIABCRAjoICAAQsQMQkQI6AggAUIcEWMAJYKohaABwAHgAgAFFiAH6AZIBATSYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6&sclient=psy-ab

uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
10. I'm preparing for nuclear fall out, no seriously ... Trump would Frog Nuke a city & not give a damn
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 02:07 AM
Jun 2020

... about the aftermath.

He's that stupid

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
24. Launching a nuke while screaming
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 02:28 AM
Jun 2020



Nancy Pelosi is the mayor of Chinatown.
It's 2020, prepare for anything and everything.
 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
13. True
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 09:25 AM
Jun 2020

But I do have concerns about the damage he will do in the meantime in order to hang on to power. He is dangerous.

ZenDem

(442 posts)
14. You are correct...
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 10:42 AM
Jun 2020

...he will cause damage; plenty of damage. None of it irreversible or unfixable.

It will take years, maybe a decade or more, to repair the damage. I could be gone by then, but think about the world we could leave behind. I don't have gkids, might never have any, but someone does. Someone's gkids will hopefully benefit from our actions.

I was thinking about this yesterday. Maybe Trump really is the 'best president ever'. Look at how he's bound us together, look at how his openly racist and bigoted views have forced so many on both sides to say, "ENOUGH!". I'm watching diehard Republicans post "I can't breathe" on Twitter and FB. I'm seeing corporations tell whining babies to fuck off when the companies post in support for BLM.

It's tough to be optimistic, right now, but I think there is a bright future ahead.

Cosmocat

(14,543 posts)
20. Except he is not the problem
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 02:41 PM
Jun 2020

he is a system, a Frankenstein unleashed on the world.

But, what created him, the "conservative movement" and Republican Party will still be IF we can get him out of the white house.

See, Tom Cotton NYTs column, and this is one of their supposed 'stars." You have a couple hundred like him in congress, thousands more at the state level.

See ... well, thousands and thousands of scumbags making a good living selling all the lies and fantasies of conservatism that roughly half this country greedily laps up.

Roc2020

(1,603 posts)
15. That's a concern yes. it's really
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 10:43 AM
Jun 2020

not so much about Trump anymore. At this point most of America sees it's either Trump goes bye bye, or the country goes bye bye. I'm more concerned with the question can America rebound. I think so, but I have strong doubts.

H2O Man

(73,308 posts)
17. Recommended.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 02:05 PM
Jun 2020

I share those concerns. It seems most likely that things will continue to deteriorate at an increasing pace between now and November -- and continue to do so until January 20, 2021. This is painful.

majdrfrtim

(317 posts)
21. When I was deployed OCONUS for the third time, Star,
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jun 2020

(I turned 58 years old that year), I often — and for hours at a time — had to get through just one breath at a time.

*We* can get through this — together! — even if it turns out to be just one breath at a time, again!!

Nitram

(22,671 posts)
22. We will survive this. Our country will survive this. We are stronger than Donald Trump and his
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 06:09 PM
Jun 2020

gang of lickspittle sycophants.

friend of m and j

(220 posts)
25. Humty Dumty took a big fall
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 03:51 AM
Jun 2020

And I am not talking about Trump. As much as I hate to think about it and as sad as it makes me I think in less than 2 years there will not be a United States. Trump will not leave office peacefully. There will be some form of a civil war. At least 5 states will secede from the Union. Luckily those States (Calif., Washington State, some of the richer farm states. They will form into a Union much like the European Union. Their combined GDP that will be multiple times what is left for Trump.

Trump is not smart enough to pull this off but Steve Bannon and Bill Barr are.

But in less than 10 years Humpty Dumty will have picked up the pieces and put the states that didn't like living under a dictatorship back together. We might have to draft a new constitution but we have a good document to follow. We should be able to make it even better just because of the things we have learned over the last 200 [;id years .

I turn 78 in just a few months and won't be around long enough to see Humpdy Dumpty fall of much less see which side breaks into pieces. I hope it will be Trump that is Humty Dumpty. If it is I think Joe Biden and the crew that he can put together WILL put us on the right path in less than 2 years. For that I hope I will still be around to see it and be a part of it.

randr

(12,408 posts)
29. It is our responsibility to make it right
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 09:03 AM
Jun 2020

In each of our neighborhoods, cities, counties, states we need to do all we can to make things better. Volunteering for organizations that are making peoples lives easier, participating in voter registration, as best we will be able, and taking an active role in whatever is needed for poll staffing. Do not spread conspiracies re voting issues. Encourage all the people you can to vote in any manner they are able to. Write letters or email congressional reps when they need to hear from us.
We were the majority in the last elections and we will end our nations night mare together.

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