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jberryhill

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Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:50 AM Sep 2012

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I can't help it, mykpart Sep 2012 #1
Their Battle Hymn of the Republic is iconic jberryhill Sep 2012 #4
A pleasure. emilyg Sep 2012 #2
I love choral music. Speck Tater Sep 2012 #3
Sorry. No can do that one. longship Sep 2012 #5
Ein Feste Burg Ist Unser Gött jberryhill Sep 2012 #6
I would pay big bucks to hear them sing Bach's "Coffee Cantata" longship Sep 2012 #9
Did you know he lived in both Badens of Baden-Baden? jberryhill Sep 2012 #10
The campus at Hoople? longship Sep 2012 #12
I did original research on reconstructing the hardart jberryhill Sep 2012 #13
Touché! longship Sep 2012 #14
Caught him live years ago jberryhill Sep 2012 #15
I grew up singing that. DevonRex Sep 2012 #7
It's allegorical you know... jberryhill Sep 2012 #8
Huh. I always thought of the Crusades. DevonRex Sep 2012 #11
It's about spiritual war jberryhill Sep 2012 #17
I did know it was about spiritual war DevonRex Sep 2012 #18
No - I'm with Diderot. GoneOffShore Sep 2012 #16

mykpart

(3,879 posts)
1. I can't help it,
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:55 AM
Sep 2012

I love choir music, and they are good at it.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
4. Their Battle Hymn of the Republic is iconic
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:59 AM
Sep 2012
 

emilyg

(22,742 posts)
2. A pleasure.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:56 AM
Sep 2012
 

Speck Tater

(10,618 posts)
3. I love choral music.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:58 AM
Sep 2012

Especially Beethoven's Ninth, third movement.
But this makes me want to puke. Sorry.
It's just so offensive in so many ways.

longship

(40,416 posts)
5. Sorry. No can do that one.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:07 AM
Sep 2012

Indeed! Let's revive the crusades. Horrible hymn.

I like choral music myself, and the MTC. But I would prefer something like A Mighty Fortress which is a very cool hymn.

As an atheist I do not draw any lines on sacred vs secular music. I love them both equally. But this one has a horrible message.

Here's a beauty:


 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. Ein Feste Burg Ist Unser Gött
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:18 AM
Sep 2012

I'd like to hear them do some Latin and German.

If they want to do liturgical classics, and while some English lyric adaptations or re-uses are also very good, they should include some original language arrangements.

There something just not right about taking a perfectly good Bach choral piece, for example, or a medieval theme, going up tempo and pasting shlocky lyrics by overheated 19th Century English majors.

Now, I agree, sometimes that results in works that stand on their own merits.

But for a choir this capable, and arrangers this talented, it would be nice to pay tribute to the original works once in a while.

longship

(40,416 posts)
9. I would pay big bucks to hear them sing Bach's "Coffee Cantata"
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:49 AM
Sep 2012

Yes, it really exists. Yes, it really is about coffee, and the prohibition of the same. The progenitors, father and daughter, resolve their dispute (and the musical dissonance) over... that's right, a steaming hot cuppa.

Here's that steaming hot cuppa for DUers:



Bach rules!!!
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
10. Did you know he lived in both Badens of Baden-Baden?
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:13 AM
Sep 2012

Little known fact I learned from Professor Peter Schickele, the biographer and chief authority on P.D.Q. Bach.

I interned with him for a semester at the University of Southern North Dakota.

longship

(40,416 posts)
12. The campus at Hoople?
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:42 AM
Sep 2012

Which would, of course, be the main campus. Hoople, ND population 240 souls (so to speak).

I saw PDQ Bach, Peter Schickele conduct the Detroit Symphony Orchestra at Meadowbrook years ago. (long ago. I was a physics student at Oakland University.) Wonderful! Sitting on the lawn, drinking wine and chomping Pinconning extra sharp, laughing our asses off, and lots of tongue-in-cheek music.

Too bad Gerard Hoffnung didn't live into the sixties. I would have loved to experience one of his music festivals at Albert Hall. Only he would dare rescore a Chopin Mazurka for four tubas.


 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
13. I did original research on reconstructing the hardart
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:44 AM
Sep 2012

longship

(40,416 posts)
14. Touché!
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:59 AM
Sep 2012

You've cut me to the core!!!


Great sport! Eh?
Love it. Don't mind losing.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
15. Caught him live years ago
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 04:33 AM
Sep 2012

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
7. I grew up singing that.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:37 AM
Sep 2012

It was so exciting. Baptists and Fundies always sing it at revivals.

Now it gives me the creeps.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
8. It's allegorical you know...
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:43 AM
Sep 2012

Had it not been for the British missionary effort, then we would never have seen Anglican Bishop Desmond Tutu finally establish victory over the Afrikaners.

Desmond Tutu won the Boer War!

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
11. Huh. I always thought of the Crusades.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:42 AM
Sep 2012

Now I shall have to look up the history of the hymn. Well, it's Sunday after all. Appropriate activity I suppose, along with the crossword.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
17. It's about spiritual war
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:24 PM
Sep 2012

It's the Salvation Army theme song.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
18. I did know it was about spiritual war
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 04:34 PM
Sep 2012

but in a child's mind it does raise vivid images. Those themes seem to be more real than allegorical in some churches these days.

I didn't know it was the SA's song.

GoneOffShore

(17,309 posts)
16. No - I'm with Diderot.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 05:48 AM
Sep 2012

And no music from the cultists.

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