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trumad

(41,692 posts)
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 08:28 AM Sep 2012

Poll: Elizabeth Warren opens 6-point edge on Scott Brown in Massachusetts Senate race

I'm guessing her negatives aren't errrr toooo heavy.

SPRINGFIELD — With 50 days left until Massachusetts voters decide who will represent them in the U.S. Senate for the next six years, Harvard law professor Elizabeth Warren has pulled ahead of Republican U.S. Sen. Scott Brown, according to a new poll.

The survey of Bay State voters conducted Sept. 6-13 by the Western New England Polling Institute through a partnership with The Republican and MassLive.com, shows Warren leading over Brown, 50 to 44 percent, among likely voters.

The gap among registered voters is even larger, according to the survey, which concluded Warren leads 53 to 41 percent. The poll of 545 registered voters has a 4.2 percent margin of error, while the sample of 444 likely voters has a 4.6 percent margin of error.

Tim Vercellotti, professor of political science and director of the Polling Institute at Western New England University, said Warren's lead comes in part from the fact that she's shored up support among Democrats to 89 percent, while losing only six percent of her party's support to Brown.
http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/09/poll_elizabeth_warren_pulls_ah.html
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Poll: Elizabeth Warren opens 6-point edge on Scott Brown in Massachusetts Senate race (Original Post) trumad Sep 2012 OP
She seems to have has an active campaign - lots of email and campaign events. geckosfeet Sep 2012 #1
I'm going to visit my daughter in Sherborn in two weeks. I see lots of CTyankee Sep 2012 #31
Yes, in that area, she does well, but it is an overwhelmingly Democratic area Mass Sep 2012 #69
Warren has a great new ad called 'Fighter.' Watch it! flpoljunkie Sep 2012 #32
Thanks for posting it. I do NOT watch television so very rarely see these ads. geckosfeet Sep 2012 #33
Saw it on youtube via the NYT Election 2012 app 'All Sources' news from boston.com pol intelligence. flpoljunkie Sep 2012 #36
Wow, a real MA accent, he's just great! I love this commercial... CTyankee Sep 2012 #76
I have a cyberbud in Mass and she's been Cha Sep 2012 #62
They are dioing good - I am seeing lots more Warren signs in front yards! geckosfeet Sep 2012 #63
My girlfriends sign was stolen Sat night Chico Man Sep 2012 #83
I like this post!!! B Calm Sep 2012 #2
WOOT! DippyDem Sep 2012 #3
She is working her ass off! Way to go Warren! Firebrand Gary Sep 2012 #4
Wonderful!!! charmay Sep 2012 #5
His voting record Skelly Sep 2012 #17
That's a lot of double talk... Fearless Sep 2012 #50
It is imperative, xxqqqzme Sep 2012 #53
Scott Brown has been part of Washington obstructionists. bluestate10 Sep 2012 #67
Sexist low-information morons who like big trucks and barn coats... MADem Sep 2012 #35
du rec. Nt xchrom Sep 2012 #6
Go Liz! Wonk power! Surya Gayatri Sep 2012 #7
yes, that's great, but a closer look at the poll reveals a 4.6% margin of error among likely voters cali Sep 2012 #8
Hope they get out the vote ~ love Warren goclark Sep 2012 #19
Kick! NYC_SKP Sep 2012 #9
Good news, but more needed. GOTV for Elizabeth... FailureToCommunicate Sep 2012 #10
Look! The President, the next President and the one after that!!!! Scuba Sep 2012 #27
+++ Teamster Jeff Sep 2012 #52
Wonderfull news, great post, thanks! marble falls Sep 2012 #11
Excellent. MA finally coming to its senses? (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #12
Agreed! I was starting to wonder about that state. Gratified to see this. calimary Sep 2012 #75
Sweet as...!!! malaise Sep 2012 #13
The best news existentialist Sep 2012 #14
I want her to say "He supports Mitch McConnell for Senate Majority leader, I do not" Tom Rinaldo Sep 2012 #15
Don't SLEEP on Brown and remember they have 4 debates which is a lot who the fuck agreed to that bigdarryl Sep 2012 #16
We wimmin voters are not that stupid graywarrior Sep 2012 #21
Warren is extremly intelligent. Jennicut Sep 2012 #46
Warren can hold her own. bluestate10 Sep 2012 #68
I hope Brown does something bizarre, Rick Lazio-like, lebkuchen Sep 2012 #82
If Dems are to keep the senate we need to pick up this seat. WI_DEM Sep 2012 #18
GRRREAT NEWS! northoftheborder Sep 2012 #20
Great news! Hope this continues--and spreads to some other races! mnhtnbb Sep 2012 #22
Good news on this front is very welcome. teamster633 Sep 2012 #23
Wish I could rec this about 100 times CanonRay Sep 2012 #24
Me too! ananda Sep 2012 #25
A-fucking-men jsmirman Sep 2012 #28
Good news, but it needs to be confirmed. Mass Sep 2012 #26
Spoiler Cerridwen Sep 2012 #71
Good news, though I guess it will be closer than this poll. Mass Sep 2012 #72
Thank you Mitt Rmoney, Paul Ryan, and Todd Akin Coyotl Sep 2012 #29
Send advance notice to all those Kings and Queens Zambero Sep 2012 #30
state by state it's important to remove the extremists mountain grammy Sep 2012 #34
You all remember 2004, when we saw an Illinois State Senator give the "Keynote " address @ the DNC? Astazia Sep 2012 #37
That's a pretty good rant! Walk away Sep 2012 #79
Thanks trumad, for making my morning sooo much better. Zorra Sep 2012 #38
TY for posting this, it brought me happy tears! :) n/ t arthritisR_US Sep 2012 #39
YES!! MoonRiver Sep 2012 #40
Thank you Trumad for the great news! smirkymonkey Sep 2012 #41
K&R SunSeeker Sep 2012 #42
Please, please, please! Gregorian Sep 2012 #43
Good news treestar Sep 2012 #44
Very good news! AzDar Sep 2012 #45
Go Elizabeth! wakemewhenitsover Sep 2012 #47
Go Warren, Go!!!! Get us back Teddy's seat! Suji to Seoul Sep 2012 #48
As exciting as it is. outsideworld Sep 2012 #49
WooHoo !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2012 #51
YES!!!!!!!! Odin2005 Sep 2012 #54
yahooey!! n/t flamingdem Sep 2012 #55
K & R n/t !! ejbr Sep 2012 #56
K and R for the repub slickee boys who hang here Kingofalldems Sep 2012 #57
Excellent! Her speech at the Convention was wonderful. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #58
Great News BUT.... LovingA2andMI Sep 2012 #59
FINALLY people are realizing what a fraud that guy is! budkin Sep 2012 #60
Brown votes lockstep with McConnell, Vile Kyl and Sessions. bluestate10 Sep 2012 #70
+1 progressoid Sep 2012 #61
There was never a doubt. The draconian pukes HAVE to be worried about the House now. DainBramaged Sep 2012 #64
Warren is working hard, doing lots of retail events. bluestate10 Sep 2012 #65
Woot! Makes me feel good for the calls I made for NOW! moriah Sep 2012 #66
Vote The Jungle 1 Sep 2012 #73
K&R. I wish I had seen this earlier. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2012 #74
I just got back from a Massachusetts visit NBachers Sep 2012 #77
That part of Mass. is hard to pigeon hole. King_Klonopin Sep 2012 #80
SE mass is a little late to the party Flatpicker Sep 2012 #78
Now is the time to contribute to the other close Senate races lebkuchen Sep 2012 #81

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
1. She seems to have has an active campaign - lots of email and campaign events.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 08:31 AM
Sep 2012

This is indeed good news as where I am the Brown signs seem to outnumber the Warren signs by about two to one.

CTyankee

(63,902 posts)
31. I'm going to visit my daughter in Sherborn in two weeks. I see lots of
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:29 AM
Sep 2012

political signs as I make my way off exit 13 from the Pike to her house through parts of Framingham, etc. All kinds of neighborhoods. So I get a certain "feel" from them during election seasons.

I am SO hopeful for Elizabeth. My dtr and son in law are huge fans of hers...

Mass

(27,315 posts)
69. Yes, in that area, she does well, but it is an overwhelmingly Democratic area
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:25 PM
Sep 2012

I live in central Mass and Brown is a lot more present, as is the case in the Springfield area, two areas that often make the difference.

flpoljunkie

(26,184 posts)
36. Saw it on youtube via the NYT Election 2012 app 'All Sources' news from boston.com pol intelligence.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:58 AM
Sep 2012

Do not live in Massachusetts, but support Elizabeth Warren's campaign.

Cha

(297,137 posts)
62. I have a cyberbud in Mass and she's been
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 04:46 PM
Sep 2012

volunteering and canvassing for Elizabeth for months..no time for even communication. They're very Serious!

Chico Man

(3,001 posts)
83. My girlfriends sign was stolen Sat night
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:39 AM
Sep 2012

A new one will be up today. (this is in Wrentham, mind you). Probably out of desparation.

Skelly

(238 posts)
17. His voting record
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 09:31 AM
Sep 2012

If you look at his voting record, it is very mixed. I can see how he may be attractive to some moderate democrats (and those that do not vote a straight ticket) and independents. Plus, he comes across as a really 'likable' guy. HOWEVER, looking closely at his voting record and you can see he went along with his party on nearly every vote that held back a lot of what Obama was trying to get passed to HELP our economy. All those instances where Republicans put up stumbling blocks, not because they thought the measure was bad, but just to keep Obama from getting something passed, he fell right in line.

THIS is what Elizabeth's campaign needs to focus on now. He put politics ahead of what was good for the nation. Keep hammering this home. Democrats need people in the house and senate who will support our President's agenda so we can get things moving in the right direction. Brown won't.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
50. That's a lot of double talk...
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:25 PM
Sep 2012

"If you look at his voting record, it is very mixed"

AND

"Looking closely at his voting record you can see he went along with his party on nearly every vote that held back a lot of what Obama was trying to get passed..."

------------

So as long as the vote was meaningless he was willing to placate Democrats? We're a little bit smarter than that. Hell I'm sure I could find things George W Bush supported that Democrats support that don't matter. That doesn't make him friendly to Democrats. It makes him a Republican politician trying to fool people.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
53. It is imperative,
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:53 PM
Sep 2012

for those living in solid blue states, to get those down ticket Democrats elected. Obama has California's 55 electoral votes. We have the luxury of concentrating our time and money on congressional, state and, most importantly, local democrats running for office.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
67. Scott Brown has been part of Washington obstructionists.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:15 PM
Sep 2012

I am happy to see Warren focusing on issues that are important to Massachusetts citizens. Brown wants votes, but when he is in Washington, he votes with the likes of Mitch McConnell and Jeff Sessions. Under no circumstances do southern conservatives have the interests of Massachusetts at heart, neither does Brown when all is said and done.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
35. Sexist low-information morons who like big trucks and barn coats...
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:55 AM
Sep 2012

And who buy those HORRIBLE, oft-repeated ads of his.

MA has never elected a female senator. EVER. We've elected one of the rare black senators, but never a female one. We've also never managed an "own right" female governor. You'd think the People's Commonwealth of MA would have done better by now, but no...

Ten points are better than six, IMO--I won't rest on any laurels. This will be a fight to the finish.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. yes, that's great, but a closer look at the poll reveals a 4.6% margin of error among likely voters
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 08:46 AM
Sep 2012

and a 4.2% rate among registered voters.

I think I'll wait and see if this is a trend before moving beyond cautious optimism.

calimary

(81,212 posts)
75. Agreed! I was starting to wonder about that state. Gratified to see this.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 08:13 PM
Sep 2012

Sorta restores my faith. There is NO WAY that ANY Democrat should be voting for scott brown - especially when they have an alternative like Elizabeth Warren!!! She understands AND embodies the very core of what it means to be a Democrat. And I would think that Massachusetts would want a confirmed and dedicated "D" in that job as opposed to a sometimes-kinda-sorta-maybe when it's merely politically expedient.

SO glad to see this! I'm actually relieved. He had better numbers for so long I was starting to get disillusioned about Massachusetts!

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
15. I want her to say "He supports Mitch McConnell for Senate Majority leader, I do not"
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 09:20 AM
Sep 2012

There are many people out there who enjoy ticket splitting. They think it proves they are open minded. Some want to find some Republican they can praise for being sane compared to most of the Republican Party and they want to reward Brown for not falling totally in line.

But the Bay State is very Democratic on national issues. Voters need reminding that the fate of the U.S. Senate may rest on who they elect as their Senator.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
16. Don't SLEEP on Brown and remember they have 4 debates which is a lot who the fuck agreed to that
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 09:27 AM
Sep 2012

Brown is the type of guy who can CHARM the fuck out of you and voters ESPECIALLY woman voters like a guy like Brown because he's attractive even though he's really a WINGNUT posing as a moderate

graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
21. We wimmin voters are not that stupid
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 09:38 AM
Sep 2012

Besides, Scotty will be exhausted after the first debate. He won't be able to keep up. All beauty, no brains.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
46. Warren is extremly intelligent.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:09 PM
Sep 2012

She can handle that many debates. Brown's brain will fry from having to practice for all that.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
68. Warren can hold her own.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:22 PM
Sep 2012

She will have plenty of ammo from using Brown's voting record in the Senate.

lebkuchen

(10,716 posts)
82. I hope Brown does something bizarre, Rick Lazio-like,
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:17 AM
Sep 2012

that feeds into voters' (correct) impressions that the GOP is anti-female.

Fingers crossed.

northoftheborder

(7,572 posts)
20. GRRREAT NEWS!
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 09:34 AM
Sep 2012

Democrats MUST not neglect the Senate and House. Not much can be accomplished without them.

teamster633

(2,029 posts)
23. Good news on this front is very welcome.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 09:40 AM
Sep 2012

I'm getting pretty tired of hearing Brown on the radio and seeing him on TV. He and his backers are all in on this one. I just hope our neighbors to the south see through his regular guy shtick and remember they're voting for someone to fill Teddy's seat.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
28. A-fucking-men
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:14 AM
Sep 2012

I may be more invested in this race than any other besides the Presidency.

Sherrod Brown, too, but Warren probably most of all.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
26. Good news, but it needs to be confirmed.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 09:59 AM
Sep 2012

This is not exactly a very big sample or a very good polling institute. There is a PPP poll coming out.

Cerridwen

(13,256 posts)
71. Spoiler
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:30 PM
Sep 2012

PPP has her up.


PublicPolicyPolling PublicPolicyPolling ?@ppppolls

Elizabeth Warren leads in the MA-Sen poll we will release tonight. Last month we found her down by 5 pts.


Read it here in Politics 2012: http://www.democraticunderground.com/125197982#post1

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
29. Thank you Mitt Rmoney, Paul Ryan, and Todd Akin
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:18 AM
Sep 2012

You guys are doing a bang-up job of delivering Congress to the blue column

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
30. Send advance notice to all those Kings and Queens
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:19 AM
Sep 2012

That Scott Brown's visitations will cease to be come November.

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
34. state by state it's important to remove the extremists
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:43 AM
Sep 2012

Scott Brown doesn't look like one, but he votes with them, and the crazy red states will continue to pump them out. Warren is for the people and, thus, very scary to the right wing.

Astazia

(262 posts)
37. You all remember 2004, when we saw an Illinois State Senator give the "Keynote " address @ the DNC?
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 11:01 AM
Sep 2012


I first saw E. Warren in 2009 when she was on Bill Maher's show or perhaps it was The Daily Show, or Colbert...anyway...she came on to explain T.A.R.P. for those of us who wanted to know about the bailout. In fewer words than a short paragraph, she made sense to those of us (like myself) who are mathematically and/or financially challenged. She was someone that I'd watch grow into what I hoped to be Tim Geithner's replacement. *sigh* My niece was starting law school @ Georgetown. While she was visiting my Mom in San Diego we had lunch &I asked her if she'd ever heard of Elizabeth Warren & she hadn't. Flash forward...she now is a "daughter of Georgetown", & knows "who she is & doesn't remember her until she saw things re; her run for senate. (she never picked her head up from studying, pro bono, internships, et al) I don't remind her that it was me who talked about her but I am glad she knows her now. That leads me back to that big speech in front of the DNC..."THERE IS NO RED AMERICA, THERE IS NO BLUE AMERICA, WE ARE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!" "ONLY IN AMERICA IS MYSTORY EVEN POSSIBLE". (paraphrasing, but you get my drift) We know what we thought...or at least it IS.what I thought...and he was a state senator!

Now here we are...8 yrs later...President Barack Hussein Obama has been POTUS for four years. And we will vote...& when we do ..the 99% will be the difference...and spreading ddown-ticket not only nationally, but local & statewide as well. The power of our voices will be our votes! This is our chance to make the other side spend more than a billion dollars on the presidential race alone & God only knows how many more of their precious dollars will be spent...but one thing I do know is...OUR IDEAS ARE BETTER & without our VOTES, the lying, manipulating, job creating ladder pulling, door closing, I've got mine folks, the my God is better or more right than your God folks, the folks that try to legislate a woman's health, or those who use love as a "wedge issue" fuck... I got carried away this morning...(long story for later when I get offa my soapbox...( note to self...re: dinner last night & disagreement with a long time best pal of our family who is diehard rethug but sweet otherwise)...Anyway...we must elect all progressive or D candidates this November & make this year a reverse WAVE election! We need solutions & those candidates who are totally bought & payed for step aside for those who want to govern.

We need to be the 99%!

OCCUPY THE BALLOT BOX, THE EARLY VOTE, THE MAJORITY, & THEN WE CAN GET OUR COUNTRY BACK IN HANDS THAT MAKE IT...TOGETHER!!!

Thank you Elizabeth Warren, for helping me with the numbersnumbers. I know deep down, you will win Teddy's seat back & do what I know you will...to help our country get back on track.

(I just had to get it out even on my cell phone)




 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
41. Thank you Trumad for the great news!
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 11:18 AM
Sep 2012

I just moved to Boston from NYC a few months ago and was getting kind of depressed about the political situation here. This is giving me some hope!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
44. Good news
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:00 PM
Sep 2012

The closer to the election and the more informed people are, the better this lead should get.

outsideworld

(601 posts)
49. As exciting as it is.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:13 PM
Sep 2012

the margin of error is still too large and the sample size is awfully small. I will wait for another firm to confirm this before I start Jumping for Join

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
58. Excellent! Her speech at the Convention was wonderful.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:05 PM
Sep 2012

Maybe the people are finally begin to pay attention.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
59. Great News BUT....
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:13 PM
Sep 2012

"The poll 545 registered voters has a 4.2 percent margin of error, while the sample of 444 likely voters has a 4.6 +/- percent margin of error."

Only 444 likely voters polled (low amount) and the margin of error is a bit high (4.6 +/- percent margin of error). They need to sample a larger group (i.e.-1000-3000) and bring the margin of error to +/- 3% for me to feel more comfortable with this sample poll.

budkin

(6,699 posts)
60. FINALLY people are realizing what a fraud that guy is!
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:40 PM
Sep 2012

I couldn't understand how he kept a lead for so long.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
70. Brown votes lockstep with McConnell, Vile Kyl and Sessions.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:26 PM
Sep 2012

Brown can't be trusted to defend the interests of Massachusetts at crunch time, Warren can be trusted to do that.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
65. Warren is working hard, doing lots of retail events.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:11 PM
Sep 2012

Brown isn't facing a Martha Coakley this time around. Some of the so-called democrats for Brown only hurt Brown. Ray Flynn is a anti-woman, corrupt right-wing asshole who has no connection to younger democrats. Walsh is angry about losing his one and only chance at a US House seat, the rest is a motley collection of never were democrats.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
66. Woot! Makes me feel good for the calls I made for NOW!
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:14 PM
Sep 2012

I still haven't finished my list -- I generally don't do calls on Sundays for volunteer phone banking -- but I'll continue to do so tomorrow after most people on the East Coast are done with their dinners.

We can't risk Scott Brown remaining in the Senate.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
73. Vote
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:59 PM
Sep 2012

Can't we just go up there and register and then vote. All we have to do is say we live in a friends basement.
Worked for Rmoney. Why isn't the press all over him over his voter fraud?

NBachers

(17,103 posts)
77. I just got back from a Massachusetts visit
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 09:32 PM
Sep 2012

Northampton, Western Mass and country & mountain towns: Shelburne Falls, Greenfield, hills & hollers- I hear western Massachusetts is more Warren country, but I was heartened to see way more Warren signs during my visit than Brown signs. I just had to get a shot to post up on DU:



And while we're at it, a little local scenery. No trees turning yet- I just got back a couple of hours ago.

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
80. That part of Mass. is hard to pigeon hole.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 02:45 AM
Sep 2012

Northampton and Amherst are college towns with lots of
GLBT culture, students, old hippies that never grew up, etc.
Rachel Maddow lives there for Pete's sake !

Travel 20 miles outside that Mecca and it becomes
rural (i.e. Repub.) real fast.

I went to UMASS in Amherst. Love that place, man.

Flatpicker

(894 posts)
78. SE mass is a little late to the party
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:59 PM
Sep 2012

But I've seen more Warren signs in the last 5 days than I've seen all summer.

Most of the Brown signage is bumper stickers of people on 93 South, heading to I-90 West.

lebkuchen

(10,716 posts)
81. Now is the time to contribute to the other close Senate races
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:07 AM
Sep 2012

Friends and I have given Warren XXX amount of dollars, and I was wondering the other day if it was paying off. It was, and is.

What works for Warren should work for C. Murphy, Kaine, Baldwin, Tester, Carmona, Berkley, and Donnelly, to name but a few.

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