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13m utaustinliberal?@utaustinliberal
@Liz_Cheney accused Pres. Obama of abandoning Czechoslovakia. Czechoslovakia hasn't existed since 1992. #Dumb
http://mediamatters.org/video/2012/09/16/liz-cheney-claims-obama-has-abandoned-czechoslo/189922
Bluefin Tuna
(54 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)DevonRex
(22,541 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)You're just trying to be an apologist for RW'er's and nothing more?
bigtree
(85,917 posts)October 27, 2011
Remarks by President Obama and Prime Minister Necas of the Czech Republic before Bilateral Meeting
Oval Office
PRESIDENT OBAMA:
"With respect to the relationship between the United States and the Czech Republic, it continues to be strong. The Czech Republic is one of our greatest allies and has provided the kind of support and cooperation on both security and non-security issues that is a mark of a true ally. As a fellow NATO member, we have consistently reaffirmed our Article 5 commitment that says that an attack on any one of us is an attack on all of us, and that we have to make sure that we continue to have the kind of strong mutual defense posture thats required. And the Czech Republic has reflected that commitment in the extraordinary efforts it has made in Afghanistan, for which we are deeply appreciative.
I will tell you that when you talk to American commanders in Afghanistan and you ask them who are some of our best and most effective partners, they consistently say the Czech Republic. And so we are very grateful for their contributions, and we are going to be working and collaborating with them as we move into a transition process where we increasingly make sure that Afghans are taking the security lead in their country.
We also are going to have an opportunity to discuss a range of economic and commercial ties and issues. We want to continue to deepen our relationship around research and development, around civil nuclear power, around how we can strengthen trade between our two countries. And so, over all, I think its fair to say that, although the relationship between the United States and the Czech Republic economically is very strong, it can always be stronger. And were going to look for additional opportunities for collaboration.
Finally, let me just say that the Czechs continue to inspire the world with their own transition from being behind the Iron Curtain to freedom and democracy. And so their strong stance on issues of human rights and democracy and freedom around the world is extraordinarily important. And I know the Prime Minister is committed to making sure that the Czech Republic continues to send a signal around the world, whether its in the wake of the Arab Spring, or other countries where freedom and democracy have not yet been achieved, that they are able to continue to set a great example and provide the kind of leadership and technical assistance thats so important for many of these countries."
CZECH PRIME MINISTER NECAS: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. President, for your kind words. Thank you for your hospitality you have shown to me and to my delegation.
We are indeed allies in numerous endeavors in Europe and around the world. We are together in Afghanistan. We are ready to work together on the process of transition in this country.
We are preparing a major summit in Chicago, Mr. Presidents hometown, and also, as he stated, we have many Czech connections.
It will be necessary to create a framework for keeping our defense capability in the current economical situation. I would like to discuss the issue of the project to create a special helicopter pilot training center of excellence, as a part of a Smart Defense initiative within NATO.
We would like to discuss, of course, the economical situation -- the situation on both sides of the Atlantic, vis-à-vis the current crisis of eurozone, and last but not least, the promotion of human rights and democracy around the world.
We would like to discuss our participation within Open Government Partnership initiative, and of course, a discussion concerning center for civil nuclear cooperation -- because we do appreciate your strong leadership . . .
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/10/27/remarks-president-obama-and-prime-minister-necas-czech-republic-bilatera
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Be specific.
And after regurgitating the rightwing talking point uttered by rMoney, please indicate if you agree.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)yardwork
(61,417 posts)This was an example of poor disruption.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)That one was just too obvious. And not any fun, either, so she was a very poor disruptor indeed.
I think she was a she anyway. Maybe it's because I'm just waiting to play a little Rob Zombie when she comes back.
yardwork
(61,417 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)yardwork
(61,417 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)yardwork
(61,417 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Seems appropriate for a PPR, doesn't it?
malaise
(267,813 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)lamp_shade
(14,796 posts)Richard D
(8,693 posts). . . but sometimes I say that when I mean Czech Republic. Seems to be a remnant of growing up when Czechoslovakia existed.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)leeroysphitz
(10,462 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,482 posts)Response to bigtree (Original post)
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SayitAintSo
(2,207 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Her geographical knowledge seems to match that of Palin.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)....... nevermind.
well, that's where she pulled this out of, isn't it?
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)One of many, Wing Nut dumbasses.
Maybe she was home skhooled or sumptin...and they forgeted to teach her geo-graphy.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,697 posts)Liz needs a lesson in geography, not to mention political science.
porphyrian
(18,530 posts)Jennicut
(25,415 posts)It kills.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)she'd say Obama abandoned Prussia.
RandiFan1290
(6,206 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)old Reaganisms from the early 1980s Cold War. They think they can take their playbook from Reagan's first election, casting Obama as Jimmy Carter, and they end up looking like idiots. Next they'll be calling for us to invade Grenada.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)eom
elleng
(130,147 posts)GREAT one, arely!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)bigtree
(85,917 posts). . . stuck in the past.
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JHB
(37,131 posts)Conservatives seem to be perpetually stuck in 1979: there's a Evil Empire wolf at the door, lest we pinch a single penny on military spending; we need to all be armed to the teeth to prevent rampant street crime; "you know who" are just hankering to riot and loot like in the 77 blackout, and Da Bronx was burning; when the Democrat party is in charge all our favorite friendly dictators get overthrown and replaced with anti-American regimes; inflation is rampant; deficits are the worst possible thing; Gumming booooreaucrats! Welfare Queens! Iranians burning effigies of Jimmy Car...I mean flag! The American Flag! Russians invading Afg...um....communist revolution in Nicaragua! Only two hours from Harlingen Texas!
Boogaboogabooogabooga!
It makes cow flop taste like chocolate to them.
rsweets
(307 posts)my aunt May never liked being called czech
bigtree
(85,917 posts). . . I'd put good money down that she'd think I was talking about a hippie commune.
nailed it
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)My Brother's wife is of Czech ethnicity on both sides of her family, but she refers to herself as Bohemian as well. (I believe it's Bohemia and Moravia which constitute the Czech Republic.)
Berlin Expat
(946 posts)Bohemia and Moravia, and some folks here insist on calling themselves the either "Bohemian" or "Moravian".
Here where I live, there's a tiny minority who insist on calling themselves "Silesian".
There are differences in the accents, to be honest, to the well-trained ear, but then again there's a difference between the Prague dialect and the rest of the country as well.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I loved the Czech Republic (well, Prague & Kutna Hora - I was only there a little over a week)! I would love to explore more of
Central and Eastern Europe, including Berlin. How is it that you are living there? I would love to live in Europe.
I studied in Austria as an undergrad and did a lot of travelling - Germany, Hungary, Italy, Greece, Yugoslavia (before the Balkan Wars), but never got to Berlin that time around. I find that part of the world beautiful and fascinating.
It would be interesting to get the German or Berliner's perspective on what is going on in the world if you care to share it.
eridani
(51,907 posts)--the old college try. I was lucky that I could often fall back on my schoolbook German. Interesting conducting transactions with someone when you are both speaking a language other than your native tongue.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)After all, that was pretty much a fact free rant.
riverbendviewgal
(4,251 posts)Of Santorum saying.
Smart people will never be on our side
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,483 posts)As far as Liz goes, I don't know why anyone still considers her opinion to be relevant anymore.
Cha
(295,911 posts)oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)2on2u
(1,843 posts)2on2u
(1,843 posts)mother earth
(6,002 posts)What a hypocritical, poor excuse for a woman she is. Her father & GW abandoned this country to promote their own agenda.
She should hang her head in absolute shame of her treasonous father & the carnage he left behind.
Iggo
(47,487 posts)M_M
(163 posts)When she isn't having fun, she blames not him but everyone.
classof56
(5,376 posts)Good one, and welcome to DU.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
vanlassie
(5,637 posts)JohnnyBoots
(2,969 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)Better Czech the latest Poles and see if the Pomeranians are switching to Romney!
no_hypocrisy
(45,774 posts)They haven't brought to the justice that rogue who shot up Amanda Carrington's wedding 25 years ago.
pampango
(24,692 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,418 posts)mysuzuki2
(3,521 posts)the Ottoman Empire.
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)Go fuck yourself.
The thought of living through another neocon political term is excruciating. If Romney wins, they will again be in charge. He does not have the strength (or the inclination) to stop them from scurring around the whitehouse and snuggling in his ear.
They are power hungry liars whose goal is to steal as much power and treasure they can get with no thought to the consequences to our republic.
Orrex
(63,085 posts)Try to stay current, Ms. Evil.
GoCubsGo
(32,061 posts)Just like her friend, Mitt, who is still fighting the Soviet Union.
life long demo
(1,113 posts)enuf said.
Robb
(39,665 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,280 posts)Initech
(99,914 posts)Harcourdt Fenton Mud
(29 posts)"C'mon, it's Czechoslovakia. We zip in, we pick 'em up, we zip right out again. We're not going to Moscow. It's Czechoslovakia. It's like going into Wisconsin."
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)The CCC
(463 posts)Yes she really is that stupid, and she thinks you are.
PossumSqueezins
(184 posts)She has no expertise in ANYTHING and has never held elected office. Why is her ALWAYS WRONG opinion worth anymore than any other Vice President's daughter?? Why aren't cameras following around one of the Gore daughters and asking her for opinions?? Why not ask one of Dan Quayle's daughters questions about foreign policy?
treestar
(82,383 posts)Exactly. What is Ashley Biden's opinion? At least Daddy is currently in the office!
Did we hear what Tricia and Julie thought during the Eisenhower administration? The MSM has really gone around the bend.
slampoet
(5,032 posts)It won't give you Michigan or Illinois so give you feeble child.
TahitiNut
(71,611 posts)The demon spawn of Dickhead and Lynne, her arrogance and narcissism are boundless.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)But I bet they don't mind. After 2 German invasions and 1 Russian invasion, they could probably do with some privacy...
My people all hail from Slovakia. I am an American.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)mentioned the first thing I thought of when reading about this: did ANYone on the panel point out this most obvious nugget of ignoramosity on the part of a so-called foreign policy expert?
or, past that, ask for justification of her, at best questionable, assertion
the answer appears to be no, which points to either the equally vacuous quality of the panel, or their trepidation in the face of teratogenetic monster spawn
what's the matter with Steph? is he also that ignorant, or that chicken?
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)I know this sort of thing is frowned upon, but still:
bridgeofsighs Today 12:44 PM, commenting on Cheney's and Coulter's appearances on This Week>>>
"She's just a female version of Ann Coulter."
TransitJohn
(6,932 posts)n/t
JHB
(37,131 posts)BumRushDaShow
(127,308 posts)They really are coming apart before our eyes. Time for them to say goodnight.
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L0oniX
(31,493 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Now now ...be nice ...she has insider information:
Why yes ...it is a Marx-ist country!
jsr
(7,712 posts)that Obama was involved in.
JHB
(37,131 posts)...which caused an iceberg to calve off at just the right time to drift into the path of the Titanic.
jsr
(7,712 posts)tavalon
(27,985 posts)tavalon
(27,985 posts)Dumb as a rock, but heaven knows, she never got much of an education*.
*Welcome to the primer on how southern women couch our criticisms. I may not live in the south anymore, but one never forgets certain lessons.
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ck4829
(34,977 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,154 posts)If he doesn't watch out, Prussia will start taking control of Middle Europe ...
H2O Man
(73,323 posts)President Obama acts as if Atlantis NEVER EXISTED!
Recommended.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)JHB
(37,131 posts)...and that was 20 years ago. It's not as if she were from her father's generation, where it could be considered a decades-old habit.
And then there's her bio:
After graduating from law school, Cheney practiced law in the private sector (at the law firm of White & Case) and as an international law attorney and consultant at the International Finance Corporation, a member of the World Bank Group. She has also served as Special Assistant to the Deputy Secretary of State for Assistance to the former Soviet Union, and as a USAID officer in U.S. embassies in Budapest and Warsaw.
Now, Budapest is in Hungary (mentioning it just in case Liz is confused about other Austro-Hungarian successor states), but it's only about 30 miles from Budapest to the border of Slovakia. It should have been hard to miss.
Hubert Flottz
(37,726 posts)her dad's medicine cabinet again?
That entire family just kind of oozes along like pus.