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Liz Cheney accuses President Obama of abandoning Czechoslovakia (Original Post) bigtree Sep 2012 OP
Perhaps she meant the Czech Republic? Bluefin Tuna Sep 2012 #1
if she got it wrong, then what's her opinion worth? CreekDog Sep 2012 #11
You're the one who posted RW bullshit last night. Nt DevonRex Sep 2012 #15
Perhaps she's so dumb she doesn't know that...perhaps... joeybee12 Sep 2012 #16
here he is 'abandoning' the Czech Republic, right in the Oval Office bigtree Sep 2012 #18
Ok, in what sense has the Czech Republic been abandoned by the Obama administration? Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #38
She can't answer you. She's gone where he bad trolls go. Nt DevonRex Sep 2012 #48
Thanks MIRT! freshwest Sep 2012 #67
Missed me again. L0oniX Sep 2012 #85
Ah, so it was one of your socks? Or are you on the wrong line? freshwest Sep 2012 #89
Sometimes I miss the "disrupted poorly" tombstone. yardwork Sep 2012 #72
So do I. DevonRex Sep 2012 #77
Something tells me that she's been here before and will be back again! yardwork Sep 2012 #80
Not LG? freshwest Sep 2012 #90
Probably not her, although I'm not good at recognizing any of them. yardwork Sep 2012 #92
Save it for future use. L0oniX Sep 2012 #82
Thank you! yardwork Sep 2012 #96
Since we lost that one, I like to use this... pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #108
You expect specifics? malaise Sep 2012 #51
No, he expects... freshwest Sep 2012 #93
LOL malaise Sep 2012 #102
Adios. lamp_shade Sep 2012 #55
I wouldn't defend her in any way . . . Richard D Sep 2012 #59
Survey says... L0oniX Sep 2012 #84
. leeroysphitz Sep 2012 #104
She's right. He abandoned it to the USSR. Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Sep 2012 #3
Her voice - Fingernails scratching on a black board........ SayitAintSo Sep 2012 #4
lol dipsydoodle Sep 2012 #5
liz can see Czechoslovakia from her Lil Missy Sep 2012 #8
Exactly. SoapBox Sep 2012 #24
proof that they just make shit up n/t Lil Missy Sep 2012 #6
Huh??? greatauntoftriplets Sep 2012 #7
Fuck Liz Cheney and her traitor father. n/t porphyrian Sep 2012 #9
The stupid. Jennicut Sep 2012 #10
WHAT ABOUT POLAND? DON'T FORGET POLAND! Brickbat Sep 2012 #12
In this instance dipsydoodle Sep 2012 #13
Never Forget! RandiFan1290 Sep 2012 #43
This is what happens when you keep trying to recycle frazzled Sep 2012 #14
just wait until the holy roman empire hears about this arely staircase Sep 2012 #17
HAHAHAHA!!! elleng Sep 2012 #45
Aw, but they have, which is why they are voting for Rome knee! freshwest Sep 2012 #66
She's gonna be real pissed about his kowtowing to the Ottomans. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #19
*snort* freshwest Sep 2012 #91
Is she stuck in a time warp to 1968? Odin2005 Sep 2012 #20
her entire republican party is bigtree Sep 2012 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #76
No, the RW meme is that liberals are stuck in 1968... JHB Sep 2012 #105
maybe she ment Bohemia rsweets Sep 2012 #22
I'd like to ask her about Bohemia bigtree Sep 2012 #23
LOL rsweets Sep 2012 #26
That's interesting. smirkymonkey Sep 2012 #40
It is: Berlin Expat Sep 2012 #57
Thank you for your response and welcome to DU! smirkymonkey Sep 2012 #62
Whatever the accent, they are all very nice to foreigners who give their language-- eridani Sep 2012 #64
She's simply rattling off names of countries without thinking Jack Rabbit Sep 2012 #25
All I could think of was this picture riverbendviewgal Sep 2012 #27
. ProSense Sep 2012 #31
Didn't you just love that? I couldn't believe that I agreed with him on something. Arkansas Granny Sep 2012 #32
REC THis POST ^^^^^^^^! ..N/T Cha Sep 2012 #95
silly lizzie........ Obama plays chess.. Czech mate n/t oldhippydude Sep 2012 #28
DUzy!! n/t 2on2u Sep 2012 #30
Maybe she meant to say that "He Forgot Poland". nt 2on2u Sep 2012 #29
Where was her big mouth when daddy was screwing over this country & filling the air waves with lies? mother earth Sep 2012 #33
Oh no! Now there's nothing to stop the Soviets from marching right in! Iggo Sep 2012 #34
Lizzie Cheney Knows No Facts, Daddy's Had Five Heart Attacks M_M Sep 2012 #35
A poet amongst us! classof56 Sep 2012 #58
Excellent!! vanlassie Sep 2012 #114
I'm more concerned with Bristol Palin's take on foreign policy. NT JohnnyBoots Sep 2012 #36
There goes the Czechosvakian vote! Walk away Sep 2012 #37
What about Moldovia? no_hypocrisy Sep 2012 #39
If we don't get romney in there soon, it might peacefully split into 2 countries. Right Ms. Cheney? pampango Sep 2012 #41
. littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #79
Well, that's bad enough but at least Obama is standing up against mysuzuki2 Sep 2012 #42
Dear Liz; in the words of your father: Evergreen Emerald Sep 2012 #44
Note to Liz Cheney: It's Istanbul, not Constantinople. Orrex Sep 2012 #46
Another one living in the past. GoCubsGo Sep 2012 #47
The gop really are stupid. life long demo Sep 2012 #49
And Rhodesia! Robb Sep 2012 #50
Not to mention Sumeria and Abyssinia. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2012 #52
Ha ha ha ha ha... fail. Initech Sep 2012 #53
John Winger: Stripes, 1981 Harcourdt Fenton Mud Sep 2012 #54
When your entire family sleeps its life away in coffins, you don't appreciate the passage of time aint_no_life_nowhere Sep 2012 #56
LOL freshwest Sep 2012 #117
Liz Cheney accuses President Obama of abandoning Czechoslovakia The CCC Sep 2012 #60
Liz Cheney is an imbecile PossumSqueezins Sep 2012 #61
Really! treestar Sep 2012 #68
A BLATANT attempt to get the Slavic vote back. slampoet Sep 2012 #63
Well, her experience in the State Department sure did make her an expert, huh? TahitiNut Sep 2012 #65
Liz Cheney has abandoned Slovakia... fadedrose Sep 2012 #69
finally, what I was looking for.....the last commenter Gabi Hayes Sep 2012 #71
anybody reading the comments at the link? Gabi Hayes Sep 2012 #70
Everyone knows Obama takes his orders straight from East Berlin. eom TransitJohn Sep 2012 #73
May we assume she knows we've always been at war with Eastasia? JHB Sep 2012 #74
Soon she'll say she meant Yugoslavia BumRushDaShow Sep 2012 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #78
Liz Cheney accused of being a Santorum kind of voter. L0oniX Sep 2012 #81
Liz Cheney, who worked for The State Department from 1989 to 1993... SidDithers Sep 2012 #83
all hail to the greatest man who ever lived: Gabi Hayes Sep 2012 #86
btw, nsfw, if they let you see youtube Gabi Hayes Sep 2012 #87
Obviously she doesn't know we are at war with Freedonia! Michigan R insider info... L0oniX Sep 2012 #88
She forgot about that Chappaquiddick incident jsr Sep 2012 #94
And his actions in Greenland to plant evidence of global warming... JHB Sep 2012 #107
Global warming is good: jsr Sep 2012 #112
I think she meant to say that he forgot Poland tavalon Sep 2012 #97
Well, now, isn't she precious! tavalon Sep 2012 #98
This message was self-deleted by its author ck4829 Sep 2012 #99
Also, Obama has abandoned Great Moravia ck4829 Sep 2012 #99
He left the Teutonic Knights out to dry too muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #101
The list goes on ...... H2O Man Sep 2012 #103
Republicans and facts just don't mesh. sarcasmo Sep 2012 #106
Keep in mind that Liz was 26 years old at the time of the "velvet divorce"... JHB Sep 2012 #109
Liz must have been in... Hubert Flottz Sep 2012 #110
Hannibal is crossing the Alps as we speak!11!!1 Obama!11!1 Where are you!11! myrna minx Sep 2012 #111
Czechoslovakia!? I think I've heard this before! Major Hogwash Sep 2012 #113
She didn't really say Czechoslovakia, did she? Arkana Sep 2012 #115
Well it was bound to happen after we neglected our alliance with the Byzantine Empire Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #116
 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
16. Perhaps she's so dumb she doesn't know that...perhaps...
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:19 PM
Sep 2012

You're just trying to be an apologist for RW'er's and nothing more?

bigtree

(85,917 posts)
18. here he is 'abandoning' the Czech Republic, right in the Oval Office
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:21 PM
Sep 2012

October 27, 2011
Remarks by President Obama and Prime Minister Necas of the Czech Republic before Bilateral Meeting
Oval Office

PRESIDENT OBAMA:

"With respect to the relationship between the United States and the Czech Republic, it continues to be strong. The Czech Republic is one of our greatest allies and has provided the kind of support and cooperation on both security and non-security issues that is a mark of a true ally. As a fellow NATO member, we have consistently reaffirmed our Article 5 commitment that says that an attack on any one of us is an attack on all of us, and that we have to make sure that we continue to have the kind of strong mutual defense posture that’s required. And the Czech Republic has reflected that commitment in the extraordinary efforts it has made in Afghanistan, for which we are deeply appreciative.

I will tell you that when you talk to American commanders in Afghanistan and you ask them who are some of our best and most effective partners, they consistently say the Czech Republic. And so we are very grateful for their contributions, and we are going to be working and collaborating with them as we move into a transition process where we increasingly make sure that Afghans are taking the security lead in their country.

We also are going to have an opportunity to discuss a range of economic and commercial ties and issues. We want to continue to deepen our relationship around research and development, around civil nuclear power, around how we can strengthen trade between our two countries. And so, over all, I think it’s fair to say that, although the relationship between the United States and the Czech Republic economically is very strong, it can always be stronger. And we’re going to look for additional opportunities for collaboration.

Finally, let me just say that the Czechs continue to inspire the world with their own transition from being behind the Iron Curtain to freedom and democracy. And so their strong stance on issues of human rights and democracy and freedom around the world is extraordinarily important. And I know the Prime Minister is committed to making sure that the Czech Republic continues to send a signal around the world, whether it’s in the wake of the Arab Spring, or other countries where freedom and democracy have not yet been achieved, that they are able to continue to set a great example and provide the kind of leadership and technical assistance that’s so important for many of these countries."


CZECH PRIME MINISTER NECAS: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. President, for your kind words. Thank you for your hospitality you have shown to me and to my delegation.

We are indeed allies in numerous endeavors in Europe and around the world. We are together in Afghanistan. We are ready to work together on the process of transition in this country.

We are preparing a major summit in Chicago, Mr. President’s hometown, and also, as he stated, we have many Czech connections.

It will be necessary to create a framework for keeping our defense capability in the current economical situation. I would like to discuss the issue of the project to create a special helicopter pilot training center of excellence, as a part of a Smart Defense initiative within NATO.

We would like to discuss, of course, the economical situation -- the situation on both sides of the Atlantic, vis-à-vis the current crisis of eurozone, and last but not least, the promotion of human rights and democracy around the world.

We would like to discuss our participation within Open Government Partnership initiative, and of course, a discussion concerning center for civil nuclear cooperation -- because we do appreciate your strong leadership . . .


http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/10/27/remarks-president-obama-and-prime-minister-necas-czech-republic-bilatera

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
38. Ok, in what sense has the Czech Republic been abandoned by the Obama administration?
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:21 PM
Sep 2012

Be specific.

And after regurgitating the rightwing talking point uttered by rMoney, please indicate if you agree.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
77. So do I.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 04:29 PM
Sep 2012

That one was just too obvious. And not any fun, either, so she was a very poor disruptor indeed.

I think she was a she anyway. Maybe it's because I'm just waiting to play a little Rob Zombie when she comes back.


Richard D

(8,693 posts)
59. I wouldn't defend her in any way . . .
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:28 PM
Sep 2012

. . . but sometimes I say that when I mean Czech Republic. Seems to be a remnant of growing up when Czechoslovakia existed.

Response to bigtree (Original post)

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
8. liz can see Czechoslovakia from her
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:06 PM
Sep 2012

....... nevermind.

well, that's where she pulled this out of, isn't it?

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
24. Exactly.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:40 PM
Sep 2012

One of many, Wing Nut dumbasses.

Maybe she was home skhooled or sumptin...and they forgeted to teach her geo-graphy.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
14. This is what happens when you keep trying to recycle
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:16 PM
Sep 2012

old Reaganisms from the early 1980s Cold War. They think they can take their playbook from Reagan's first election, casting Obama as Jimmy Carter, and they end up looking like idiots. Next they'll be calling for us to invade Grenada.

Response to bigtree (Reply #21)

JHB

(37,131 posts)
105. No, the RW meme is that liberals are stuck in 1968...
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:02 AM
Sep 2012

Conservatives seem to be perpetually stuck in 1979: there's a Evil Empire wolf at the door, lest we pinch a single penny on military spending; we need to all be armed to the teeth to prevent rampant street crime; "you know who" are just hankering to riot and loot like in the 77 blackout, and Da Bronx was burning; when the Democrat party is in charge all our favorite friendly dictators get overthrown and replaced with anti-American regimes; inflation is rampant; deficits are the worst possible thing; Gumming booooreaucrats! Welfare Queens! Iranians burning effigies of Jimmy Car...I mean flag! The American Flag! Russians invading Afg...um....communist revolution in Nicaragua! Only two hours from Harlingen Texas!


Boogaboogabooogabooga!

It makes cow flop taste like chocolate to them.

bigtree

(85,917 posts)
23. I'd like to ask her about Bohemia
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:39 PM
Sep 2012

. . . I'd put good money down that she'd think I was talking about a hippie commune.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
40. That's interesting.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:26 PM
Sep 2012

My Brother's wife is of Czech ethnicity on both sides of her family, but she refers to herself as Bohemian as well. (I believe it's Bohemia and Moravia which constitute the Czech Republic.)

Berlin Expat

(946 posts)
57. It is:
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:23 PM
Sep 2012

Bohemia and Moravia, and some folks here insist on calling themselves the either "Bohemian" or "Moravian".

Here where I live, there's a tiny minority who insist on calling themselves "Silesian".

There are differences in the accents, to be honest, to the well-trained ear, but then again there's a difference between the Prague dialect and the rest of the country as well.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
62. Thank you for your response and welcome to DU!
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:52 PM
Sep 2012

I loved the Czech Republic (well, Prague & Kutna Hora - I was only there a little over a week)! I would love to explore more of
Central and Eastern Europe, including Berlin. How is it that you are living there? I would love to live in Europe.

I studied in Austria as an undergrad and did a lot of travelling - Germany, Hungary, Italy, Greece, Yugoslavia (before the Balkan Wars), but never got to Berlin that time around. I find that part of the world beautiful and fascinating.

It would be interesting to get the German or Berliner's perspective on what is going on in the world if you care to share it.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
64. Whatever the accent, they are all very nice to foreigners who give their language--
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:56 PM
Sep 2012

--the old college try. I was lucky that I could often fall back on my schoolbook German. Interesting conducting transactions with someone when you are both speaking a language other than your native tongue.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
25. She's simply rattling off names of countries without thinking
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:40 PM
Sep 2012

After all, that was pretty much a fact free rant.

Arkansas Granny

(31,483 posts)
32. Didn't you just love that? I couldn't believe that I agreed with him on something.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:56 PM
Sep 2012

As far as Liz goes, I don't know why anyone still considers her opinion to be relevant anymore.

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
33. Where was her big mouth when daddy was screwing over this country & filling the air waves with lies?
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:57 PM
Sep 2012

What a hypocritical, poor excuse for a woman she is. Her father & GW abandoned this country to promote their own agenda.
She should hang her head in absolute shame of her treasonous father & the carnage he left behind.

 

M_M

(163 posts)
35. Lizzie Cheney Knows No Facts, Daddy's Had Five Heart Attacks
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:10 PM
Sep 2012

When she isn't having fun, she blames not him but everyone.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
37. There goes the Czechosvakian vote!
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:18 PM
Sep 2012

Better Czech the latest Poles and see if the Pomeranians are switching to Romney!

no_hypocrisy

(45,774 posts)
39. What about Moldovia?
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:25 PM
Sep 2012

They haven't brought to the justice that rogue who shot up Amanda Carrington's wedding 25 years ago.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
44. Dear Liz; in the words of your father:
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:49 PM
Sep 2012

Go fuck yourself.

The thought of living through another neocon political term is excruciating. If Romney wins, they will again be in charge. He does not have the strength (or the inclination) to stop them from scurring around the whitehouse and snuggling in his ear.

They are power hungry liars whose goal is to steal as much power and treasure they can get with no thought to the consequences to our republic.

54. John Winger: Stripes, 1981
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:15 PM
Sep 2012

"C'mon, it's Czechoslovakia. We zip in, we pick 'em up, we zip right out again. We're not going to Moscow. It's Czechoslovakia. It's like going into Wisconsin."

The CCC

(463 posts)
60. Liz Cheney accuses President Obama of abandoning Czechoslovakia
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:44 PM
Sep 2012

Yes she really is that stupid, and she thinks you are.

PossumSqueezins

(184 posts)
61. Liz Cheney is an imbecile
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:48 PM
Sep 2012

She has no expertise in ANYTHING and has never held elected office. Why is her ALWAYS WRONG opinion worth anymore than any other Vice President's daughter?? Why aren't cameras following around one of the Gore daughters and asking her for opinions?? Why not ask one of Dan Quayle's daughters questions about foreign policy?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
68. Really!
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:10 PM
Sep 2012

Exactly. What is Ashley Biden's opinion? At least Daddy is currently in the office!

Did we hear what Tricia and Julie thought during the Eisenhower administration? The MSM has really gone around the bend.

slampoet

(5,032 posts)
63. A BLATANT attempt to get the Slavic vote back.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:55 PM
Sep 2012

It won't give you Michigan or Illinois so give you feeble child.

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
65. Well, her experience in the State Department sure did make her an expert, huh?
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:59 PM
Sep 2012

The demon spawn of Dickhead and Lynne, her arrogance and narcissism are boundless.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
69. Liz Cheney has abandoned Slovakia...
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:18 PM
Sep 2012

But I bet they don't mind. After 2 German invasions and 1 Russian invasion, they could probably do with some privacy...

My people all hail from Slovakia. I am an American.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
71. finally, what I was looking for.....the last commenter
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 04:13 PM
Sep 2012

mentioned the first thing I thought of when reading about this: did ANYone on the panel point out this most obvious nugget of ignoramosity on the part of a so-called foreign policy expert?

or, past that, ask for justification of her, at best questionable, assertion

the answer appears to be no, which points to either the equally vacuous quality of the panel, or their trepidation in the face of teratogenetic monster spawn

what's the matter with Steph? is he also that ignorant, or that chicken?

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
70. anybody reading the comments at the link?
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:54 PM
Sep 2012

I know this sort of thing is frowned upon, but still:

bridgeofsighs Today 12:44 PM, commenting on Cheney's and Coulter's appearances on This Week>>>

"She's just a female version of Ann Coulter."

BumRushDaShow

(127,308 posts)
75. Soon she'll say she meant Yugoslavia
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 04:26 PM
Sep 2012


They really are coming apart before our eyes. Time for them to say goodnight.

Response to bigtree (Original post)

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
88. Obviously she doesn't know we are at war with Freedonia! Michigan R insider info...
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 08:23 PM
Sep 2012

Now now ...be nice ...she has insider information:


Why yes ...it is a Marx-ist country!

JHB

(37,131 posts)
107. And his actions in Greenland to plant evidence of global warming...
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:08 AM
Sep 2012

...which caused an iceberg to calve off at just the right time to drift into the path of the Titanic.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
98. Well, now, isn't she precious!
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 03:49 AM
Sep 2012

Dumb as a rock, but heaven knows, she never got much of an education*.


*Welcome to the primer on how southern women couch our criticisms. I may not live in the south anymore, but one never forgets certain lessons.

Response to bigtree (Original post)

muriel_volestrangler

(101,154 posts)
101. He left the Teutonic Knights out to dry too
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 06:07 AM
Sep 2012

If he doesn't watch out, Prussia will start taking control of Middle Europe ...

JHB

(37,131 posts)
109. Keep in mind that Liz was 26 years old at the time of the "velvet divorce"...
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:41 AM
Sep 2012

...and that was 20 years ago. It's not as if she were from her father's generation, where it could be considered a decades-old habit.

And then there's her bio:

Before attending law school, Cheney worked for the State Department for five years and the U.S. Agency for International Development between 1989 and 1993. After 1993, she took a job at Armitage Associates LLP, the consulting firm founded by Richard Armitage, then a former Defense Department official and Iran-Contra operative who later served as Deputy Secretary of State.

After graduating from law school, Cheney practiced law in the private sector (at the law firm of White & Case) and as an international law attorney and consultant at the International Finance Corporation, a member of the World Bank Group. She has also served as Special Assistant to the Deputy Secretary of State for Assistance to the former Soviet Union, and as a USAID officer in U.S. embassies in Budapest and Warsaw.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Cheney

Now, Budapest is in Hungary (mentioning it just in case Liz is confused about other Austro-Hungarian successor states), but it's only about 30 miles from Budapest to the border of Slovakia. It should have been hard to miss.

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
110. Liz must have been in...
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 08:15 AM
Sep 2012

her dad's medicine cabinet again?

That entire family just kind of oozes along like pus.

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