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Fearless

(18,421 posts)
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:43 PM Sep 2012

The Mormon Church Posthumously Baptized Obama’s Mother

President Barack Obama’s mother was posthumously baptized by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints on June 4, 2008. That’s the day after Obama won enough delegates to get the Democratic nomination. Graphic below of the LDS information regarding her:



http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/09/16/the-mormon-church-posthumously-baptized-obamas-mother/

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Now that's seriously fucked up!

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The Mormon Church Posthumously Baptized Obama’s Mother (Original Post) Fearless Sep 2012 OP
I find this practice of baptizing the dead of other religions a disgrace. madaboutharry Sep 2012 #1
I very much agree. DonRedwood Sep 2012 #4
Well said. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2012 #6
I concur. Coexist Sep 2012 #38
So, does that make her son a Mormon in their eyes? DonRedwood Sep 2012 #2
I look at this as a wish list for the LDS's. FarPoint Sep 2012 #3
I'm sorry... CherokeeDem Sep 2012 #5
How are they making a decision for anyone? jberryhill Sep 2012 #28
It's offensive in the intent I think Fearless Sep 2012 #35
Leave No Humanist Behind . . . . . no_hypocrisy Sep 2012 #7
I beg your pardon, all Humanist will be left behind! nt jody Sep 2012 #8
Touche. no_hypocrisy Sep 2012 #14
LOL jody Sep 2012 #15
That part of death bothers me. no_hypocrisy Sep 2012 #16
Don't worry, they won't be there. nt jody Sep 2012 #18
I was looking forward to winning the argument. no_hypocrisy Sep 2012 #19
See thread below on dying. jody Sep 2012 #20
Serious Wow. no_hypocrisy Sep 2012 #24
When I wake up in the morning I know it's going to be a GREAT DAY. I try to listen carefully to what jody Sep 2012 #26
Sue on what ground? jberryhill Sep 2012 #29
Sick Bastards rbrnmw Sep 2012 #9
Bishop Romney, who is a temple Mormon, and was even a Stake President over other Bishops braddy Sep 2012 #21
That is creepy as hell rbrnmw Sep 2012 #23
Just another perspective. They want her to get into Heaven. It's wrong but the Cleita Sep 2012 #10
Outrageous and disgusting. Wonder if the President knows this? PearliePoo2 Sep 2012 #11
LDS keeps a treasure trove of historical documents BainsBane Sep 2012 #12
This just shows what a wacko cult the Mormons are. byeya Sep 2012 #13
There's a website that gay-marries deceased Mormons. Frank Cannon Sep 2012 #17
LOL kalli007 Sep 2012 #25
Here... Fearless Sep 2012 #36
perfect! spanone Sep 2012 #39
1- Mormonism is sick and silly. pangaia Sep 2012 #22
It's to ridiculous a practice for me to even get upset with Marrah_G Sep 2012 #27
It ultimately makes no difference to me personally arcane1 Sep 2012 #32
LOL !!! Marrah_G Sep 2012 #34
The Romney's posthumously baptized Ann's parents including her vehemently atheist father Fresh_Start Sep 2012 #30
My paternal grandparents were also posthumously baptized TheOther95Percent Sep 2012 #31
You cannot find out WHO does this, I TRIED HockeyMom Sep 2012 #33
Creepy soul-stealers. Even if you don't buy it, it's just creepy. nolabear Sep 2012 #37
If it meant my heirs got a piece of all that mormon money... lindysalsagal Sep 2012 #40
Well isn't tha special. progressoid Sep 2012 #41

madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
1. I find this practice of baptizing the dead of other religions a disgrace.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:47 PM
Sep 2012

It is the ultimate level of disrespect.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,729 posts)
6. Well said.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:54 PM
Sep 2012

Last edited Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:27 PM - Edit history (1)

Besides that, it's downright creepy.

And I imagine Ann Dunham spinning in her grave at the thought!

FarPoint

(12,288 posts)
3. I look at this as a wish list for the LDS's.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:50 PM
Sep 2012

She was not of their faith, deceased and no family member gave approval. So...it is just abusive posturing....Maybe our Pagan friends could counter this with Romney...Oh, wait...the Pagans have standards....never mind.

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
5. I'm sorry...
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:51 PM
Sep 2012

While I am not religious, I respect other peoples beliefs, but what gives the Mormon Church the right to make a decision like this for anyone, especially those who can no longer speak for themselves.

I find the action of posthumously baptizing whomever they choose to be despicable.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
28. How are they making a decision for anyone?
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:37 PM
Sep 2012

It's a silly practice, but I'm always fascinated by those who find it offensive.

If a Christian prays "May God have mercy upon him" at the funeral of a Hindu, is that offensive?

The problem with Mormons is that they, apparently unlike other religions, believe their religion is true.

no_hypocrisy

(46,021 posts)
7. Leave No Humanist Behind . . . . .
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:55 PM
Sep 2012

I may create a trust fund to allow my estate to sue the Church of LDS if they trythat shit on me when I'm gone.

no_hypocrisy

(46,021 posts)
16. That part of death bothers me.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:45 PM
Sep 2012

Without a life after death, I'm denied the ability to tell all who wanted to debate me that I was right.

no_hypocrisy

(46,021 posts)
24. Serious Wow.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:29 PM
Sep 2012

You don't "return" to your past life after an experirence like that. It's like a break and you start anew.

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
26. When I wake up in the morning I know it's going to be a GREAT DAY. I try to listen carefully to what
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:35 PM
Sep 2012

people say even though it's a tremendous burden when they have little to say but take forever to say it.

I reread often the Desiderata and each time it becomes more meaningful:

Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence.
As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story.

Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit.
If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain and bitter;
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.

Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs; for the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals;
and everywhere life is full of heroism.

Be yourself.
Especially, do not feign affection.
Neither be critical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is as perennial as the grass.

Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself.

You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be,
and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.
With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy.

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
9. Sick Bastards
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:57 PM
Sep 2012

They do this to a lot of famous people George Carlin was one of them Mother Theresa, All the Popes, It's just disrespectful sick shit. I wonder if Mitt was ever a proxy for these posthumous ceremonies?

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
21. Bishop Romney, who is a temple Mormon, and was even a Stake President over other Bishops
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:13 PM
Sep 2012

has fulfilled all of such temple duties, and the duties of his office, from baptism of the dead, to excommunicating people from the church.

Mitt is no ordinary church goer.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
10. Just another perspective. They want her to get into Heaven. It's wrong but the
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:03 PM
Sep 2012

motive is naive and heartfelt. I had a friend from high school, who became a nurse. As it happened she ended up working with my mom in a children's clinic at UCLA. My mother called me up one evening to tell me that she was upset over something my friend had done. Apparently, a very sick child died while in the care of said friend. The friend baptized her post-mortem even though the family wasn't Catholic. For those who don't know, any Catholic can baptize a dying or recently passed person, who has expressed the desire for baptism or if an infant, the guardians have expressed such a desire, if there isn't enough time to get a priest.

My mother was rightfully upset because there hadn't been any kind of that consent. When she scolded my friend for doing it my friend could only reply that she wanted the child to go to heaven. It was still wrong and my mother was right to tell her it was wrong, however, I really understand where my friend's heart was.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
11. Outrageous and disgusting. Wonder if the President knows this?
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:07 PM
Sep 2012

Did they "baptize" Barack's deceased father too? No? Wonder why?
The LDS is a bunch of creepy fuckers. Remember they also did this to Ann Romney's ATHEIST father and she allowed it.
I believe that Mittens played a part in that too.
Bunch of weirdo cultists. Yuk.

BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
12. LDS keeps a treasure trove of historical documents
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:20 PM
Sep 2012

because of this practice they have of baptizing the dead. For more than a century they have gone around the globe gathering information on people and keep them in their archives. All of their reading rooms are open to the public and a great source for historians. I personally don't care if they baptize me after I'm dead. It has no effect on anything. I suppose I might feel differently if I hadn't used their archives, but that's the context I put it in.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
17. There's a website that gay-marries deceased Mormons.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:55 PM
Sep 2012

I remember John Fugelsang talking about it. I think that's hilarious.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
22. 1- Mormonism is sick and silly.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:21 PM
Sep 2012

I usually don't care what people 'believe'--which means what they sure as hell HOPE is true, with absolutely no evidence. That's their business.

2- Baptism used to have a real meaning,centuries ago..Now it means nothing, and especially in Mormonism it is just an ignorant joke.. So I don't think Obama's mom has anything to worry about. :&gt

I live near Palmyra, NY where every summer they hold the Hill Cumorah Pageant. This is some kind of re-enactment of Joe Smith blah blah. I went once just for kicks . One of the most stupid commercial things I have ever seen. I also went through the "Museum" one day. Some old fart showed my Chinese wife and I around. We saw the magic glasses by which Smith could translate some magic writing. The old guide showed his racist xenophobia by clearly indicating that my wife, being a "Communist" would never go to heaven. DUH !!
She told him she was not a Communist but a Tibetan Buddhist. He then blanched and immediately ushered us out of the place, Fuck Mormons. Sorry.. can't help it..

The whole thing is just a joke.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
27. It's to ridiculous a practice for me to even get upset with
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:35 PM
Sep 2012

So they wrote down some name and said a few words to their alien overlord. I doubt the President's mother or the President would even give this a second thought.

It's like every time a christian tells me they will "pray for me". I always walk away thinking " lol... you go ahead and pray all you want."

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
32. It ultimately makes no difference to me personally
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:40 PM
Sep 2012

But I like sharing this kind of info with my Christian republican friends and family

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
30. The Romney's posthumously baptized Ann's parents including her vehemently atheist father
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:40 PM
Sep 2012

so much for belief in religious freedom.

TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
31. My paternal grandparents were also posthumously baptized
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:40 PM
Sep 2012

I remember my father and his siblings were completely livid when they found out about it.

lindysalsagal

(20,581 posts)
40. If it meant my heirs got a piece of all that mormon money...
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:48 PM
Sep 2012

Then at least there would be one real change after the so-called baptism.

And then, there's this:

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