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alp227

(32,018 posts)
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:02 PM Sep 2012

Elizabeth Warren’s family has mixed memories about heritage

As a child growing up in rural Arizona, Ina Mapes remembers her mother as a highly discreet woman who rarely expressed her personal feelings except when it came to one particularly incendiary topic: Did Mapes’s father, a raven-haired lawyer, have Native American roots, or did he not? Mapes’s grandmother maintained that he had one-quarter tribal blood. But her mother wanted to hear nothing of it.

“My mother did not approve of Indians, and she insisted that my father was not an Indian,” said Mapes, 77, of Catalina, Ariz. “In those days, it was not a plus to be an Indian, not at all. She said that Granny, my father’s mother, was just making it up and she did not believe it.”

Mapes, a mother of four who volunteers in a clothing bank, is a second cousin to US Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren. The two women, who have never met, share more DNA than most second cousins: Not only were their grandmothers sisters, their grandfathers were brothers. Those brothers — a team of carpenters named Harry and Everett Reed who plied their trade in the Indian Territory that would become the state of Oklahoma — are believed by some family members to have roots in the Delaware tribe. Mapes, who said she was unaware of her cousin’s candidacy until contacted by a reporter, said she does not doubt her heritage.

“I think you are what you are,” said Mapes. “And part of us is Indian.”

Questions about Warren’s roots have continued to shadow her candidacy since the matter erupted in a political firestorm in April. Warren acknowledged that she had identified herself as a minority in a legal directory for nearly a decade, and she was listed as a Native American in federal forms filed by the law schools at Harvard University and University of Pennsylvania where she worked. Warren has never fully explained her assertion of Native American ancestry, and her Republican opponents continue to brand her a liar. Officials from both schools have said that her assertion of ancestry was not a factor in her hiring.

full: http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2012/senate/2012/09/15/elizabeth-warren-family-has-mixed-memories-about-heritage/cPMflfaOlndM1jFbimJ4tM/singlepage.html

found this article via the Political Animal blog, which characterizes the article as confirming Warren really has Native American roots.

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TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
1. Not this stuff again.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:11 PM
Sep 2012

I don't care what her background is, or isn't.

I do care about what she'll do for working-class citizens after she's elected.

Can we move on now.................

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
9. Exactly, when can we get back to the important issues
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:39 PM
Sep 2012

that affect the voters, like Ryan's marathon time or Romney's show horse.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
2. I don't understand why her blood lines would be important.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:13 PM
Sep 2012

Most Hispanics have Indian blood in them, but you don't find anyone questioning Marco Rubio or Raul Grijalva about it. I know about how people back then felt about having an Indian ancestor. I have a friend who told me stories of her grandmother, who was often sent to bed when there was company, when she started talking about the days on the reservation. (My friend is eighty years old, so this was some time ago.)

I suppose a DNA sample would put this to rest.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
4. is there not some certificate i read about on DU that says how much blood you have
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:17 PM
Sep 2012

got no idea about this stuff as its never been a concern of mine but its interesting to see the various opinions on what constitutes a native american.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
8. I think the tribes accept mostly white people who have a certain
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:27 PM
Sep 2012

percentage of Indian blood in them as members. It varies by tribe. Since they get some government assistance, people with some Indian blood in them might qualify for that assistance. Since a lot of the non-indian families in the past few hundred years tried to erase that past by not talking about it, I think a lot of people don't know they are part Native American.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
5. My sister's grandmother still refuses to acknowledge her Cherokee heritage.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:21 PM
Sep 2012

Even though it is OBVIOUS, and we have traced it back -- she is a quarter at the very least, and there's questions looking at census records if she might have lineage from both sides.

They live very close to Cherokee, North Carolina, in the Appalachians.

It's sad when people make an issue of heritage, but even sadder when people are ashamed of their heritage. I feel for her, but I know in her day it was not popular to admit or acknowledge Native roots.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
7. My mom is 1/32 Ojibwa and
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:26 PM
Sep 2012

I mention that when I'm talking about my ancestors. I'm so proud of that!

I can see why Elizabeth Warren would be proud of her ancestry enough to write it down.

The goPropaganda Machine needs to have a wrench thrown in it.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
6. I've heard from a cyberbud
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:22 PM
Sep 2012

in Mass that Elizabeth is proud of her Indian Heritage.

The goPROPGANDA MACHINE has been using this to LIE about Elizabeth Warren. Big Fat Shock.

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
11. My ancestry is Polish....grandparents born in Poland but
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:48 PM
Sep 2012

We all had black hair...and blue eyes......I tan very easily and deeply and have high cheek bones....

Many times I had been mistaken for aboriginal native, even by a Secret Service guy, who was half native Indian and half Hispanic. We met at a fraud conference.

I never did mind it. In fact I thought it was so cool. I wore my hair long and straight in my younger days.

It is such a shame that Indians were treated so badly.., even in Canada.

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