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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo you think "the help" leaked the video to James Carter IV?
We keep hearing that Carter released the video but that is misleading. He didn't attend the fundraiser and has kept the name of the video leaker secret, as this was a closed door, no media event.
So I am wondering if maybe a waiter or caterer, angry at hearing all of these terrible things being said about working people at the dinner, maybe was recording the event on a cell phone and then leaked the video to Carter anonymously.
otherone
(973 posts)Some richie rich didn't get his pony, so he punked mittens..
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)like you're furniture.
Freddie
(9,258 posts)In college I was a server in a nice restaurant in a high-rent part of town. Big part of why I'm a liberal.
Panasonic
(2,921 posts)one of the caterers that found the spycam.
otherone
(973 posts)was it his spy cam?
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Chiyo-chichi
(3,577 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)note the lack of link to the news item. And identification of various actors from the photo, etc.
malaise
(268,885 posts)He's also going to be on Anderson Cooper
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Or some cloth to keep the videocamera hidden. Could also be an undercover Dem attendee.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)He said he was researching videos on Youtube as part of his job when he saw the portion of the video that had been put up, apparently by the person who recorded it, about the Chinese factory. He got to wondering what was on the rest of that tape and he tracked down the person who was involved with the caterer (he was coy about exactly who, I think rightly) and convinced them to give him the rest of the tape.
He also indicated he wasn't at all thrilled with what Mitt had been saying about his Grandfather...
Payback's a bitch, eh Mitt?
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Other servers moved out from in front of the camera several times during the filming and it also appeared that someone was standing right behind it during most of the filming. From what I've gathered online, they posted a few excerpts of it on youtube back just after they took the video and JCIV saw this, tracked the user down while doing "online opposition research" and was able to obtain the whole thing.
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)stories and came across it. I hope the China video gets more play and Romney confirms it's himself speaking.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Romney's comments about China got little media coverage.
But somehow Carter was able to find the person who had the whole video with some even more juicy stuff, and this was an exclusive event. So who made this video?
Raine
(30,540 posts)brooklynite
(94,489 posts)...nobody sitting in front, and a decanter (real crystal!) off to the right.
brooklynite
(94,489 posts)This is an event at a private house, which means a catering company that probably does this sort of thing regularly. Hence, the staff are not cheap labor; they're reliable, and used to hearing these sorts of remarks. Add to that, it would have been difficult to get annoyed by something you heard and THEN activate and position a camera. I don't see how this could be anyone other than a guest (who was possibly told not to record anything -- I've been told that as well -- but decided they wanted a "souvenir", and for $50K, they damn well had a right to one).
former9thward
(31,970 posts)I don't think whomever did it will be quick to volunteer the information since recording a person in a private setting without their permission is a felony in Florida.
RandiFan1290
(6,229 posts)lol
former9thward
(31,970 posts)But I'm happy you got off on it.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Somebody did something clever? It must have been the wealthy! The poors can't figure out how to do that, and they're too loyal anyhow.
RandiFan1290
(6,229 posts)We workers are too timid and afraid to stand up to them. We might lose our precious days pay. We need our limo "lib" overlords to stand up for us.
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RandiFan1290
(6,229 posts)brooklynite
(94,489 posts)I never "made fun of them", unless your definition of "made fun of" is "supported their original goals (not the myriad additional items they took on later) but criticized their tactics as being ineffective".
lunatica
(53,410 posts)We catered to everyone and everything. From the Republican and Democratic Parties to the
Black Actors Awards to the Shriners to wedding receptions for the wealthiest people. The caterers had their own lavish venue with adjustable walls to be removed or put in place for the largest gatherings to the smallest. We also went to other venues and to private homes. We were never sworn to secrecy. Not once. And we saw and heard plenty. As a "1%er" I doubt you know much about the "help" other than there's there to serve you.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)but it's also not out of the realm that a Republican, all of whom are not overwhelmingly pleased with the RMoney pick, could have done it too.
I don't think brooklynite is implying that "the help" isn't smart enough or motivated enough to pull this off, he/she is just giving another possible theory of how this could have happened.
Chiyo-chichi
(3,577 posts)that it was NOT one of the guests who had paid $50k. Carter knows precisely who recorded it and this is as close as he is going to come to revealing the person's identity. Rightfully so.
SIDURI
(67 posts)It is certainly fascinating to speculate how, who and why. I'm grateful to whomever, and I hope (for their own safety, social and otherwise -- especially since felony was mentioned!) that they manage to remain anonymous.
Siduri
brooklynite
(94,489 posts)...since Romney asked for the full video to be released, I'm not sure he has a strong argument that the video shouldn't have been created in the first place.
SIDURI
(67 posts)The served treat the servers like furniture, as though they have no ears or eyes. As I said in another thread just now (and imo it bears repeating):
In my imagination the cell phone camera is tucked inside a waiter's jacket...
... a nice brown waiter in a crisp white jacket and black pants, silently serving soup and pouring champagne until he goes to stand in a shadowy corner where he can film unobserved the most self-absorbed assholes to grace the planet since the Russian nobility were overthrown....
Thank you, sir, and may your privacy be protected! I know you need that job.
Siduri
lunatica
(53,410 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...I just watched it. Carter was great and Matthews was loving the whole thing.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)Probably someone overheard him schmoozing with the crowd before he "spoke", and they decided to give him a Macaca Moment
kentuck
(111,076 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,067 posts)"the Help" relinquish all cell phones and recording devices in a locked box until after their shift is over.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)who wants his bushie to have a clear path in 2016.
librechik
(30,674 posts)lots of my family work catering. Videotaping the guests secretly--that takes some ballz. In this case they so deserved it. I wonder if anyone got fired. Hope they got clean away, it seems so!