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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 11:47 PM Sep 2012

Peggy Noonan: "Time for an Intervention" (Dayum!!!)

Peggy Noonan: "Time for an Intervention"

by The Troubadour

Peggy Noonan has penned in The Wall Street Journal an epic and, at times, even poetic dismantling of Mitt Romney and his campaign.

Trust me: this is a must read, regardless of which side of the aisle you may sit. Myself? As a progressive, I will focus upon those sections in which Noonan dismantles Romney in eloquent and biting terms, and leave the "interventionist" suggestions to the David Frums of the world.

She begins her dismantling by addressing Romney's now infamous dismissal of 47 percent of the electorate who supposedly pay no taxes (emphasis mine):

The central problem revealed by the tape is Romney’s theory of the 2012 election. It is that a high percentage of the electorate receives government checks and therefore won’t vote for him, another high percentage is supplying the tax revenues and will vote for him, and almost half the people don’t pay taxes and presumably won’t vote for him.

My goodness, that’s a lot of people who won’t vote for you. You wonder how he gets up in the morning.

This is not how big leaders talk, it’s how shallow campaign operatives talk: They slice and dice the electorate like that, they see everything as determined by this interest or that. They’re usually young enough and dumb enough that nobody holds it against them, but they don’t know anything. They don’t know much about America.

We are a big, complicated nation. And we are human beings. We are people. We have souls. We are complex. We are not data points. Many things go into our decisions and our political affiliations.

You have to be sophisticated to know that. And if you’re operating at the top of national politics, you’re supposed to be sophisticated.

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You know what Romney sounded like? Like a kid new to politics who thinks he got the inside lowdown on how it works from some operative.

Noonan then goes on to tell the story of a fictional conservative woman in her 60s living in Ohio. She describes this woman in complex terms: someone who loves guns, dislikes Obama and thinks mainstream culture has gone off the rails. However, she is also someone who, because of personal circumstance, is invested in things like Medicare, disability for vets and Social Security.

This woman isn't a statistic, Noonan seems to yell at Romney in her piece. She's lives. She breathes. And, as Noonan writes:

(S)he’s watching this whole election and thinking, You can win her vote if you give her faith in your fairness and wisdom. But not if you label her and dismiss her.

As for the Romney campaign and its inability to meet the great issues and challenges that it must, this is Noonan's assessment:

The big issue—how we view government, what we want from it, what we need, what it rightly asks of us, what it wrongly demands of us—is a good and big and right and serious subject. It has to be dealt with seriously, at some length. And it is in part a cultural conversation. There’s a lot of grievance out there, and a sense of entitlement in many spheres. A lot of people don’t feel confident enough or capable enough to be taking part in the big national drama of Work in America. Why? What’s going on? That’s a conversation worth having.

I think there is a broad and growing feeling now, among Republicans, that this thing is slipping out of Romney’s hands.

It’s time to admit the Romney campaign is an incompetent one. It’s not big, it’s not brave, it’s not thoughtfully tackling great issues. It’s always been too small for the moment. All the activists, party supporters and big donors should be pushing for change. People want to focus on who at the top is least constructive and most responsible. Fine, but Mitt Romney is no puppet: He chooses who to listen to. An intervention is in order. “Mitt, this isn’t working.”

After reading Noonan's piece, and after admiring her perspective while vehemently disagreeing with her politics, I was left with one dominant thought: thank goodness she is not a senior Romney advisor.

Because unlike most in the GOP, she seems to grasp the seriousness of the moment, and understands that great leaders must confidently meet that moment.

Romney? Interventions or not, never will.

Ever.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/18/1133637/-Peggy-Noonan-Time-for-an-Intervention








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Peggy Noonan: "Time for an Intervention" (Dayum!!!) (Original Post) ProSense Sep 2012 OP
The problem isn't Romney's campaign, it's Romney. nt Barack_America Sep 2012 #1
Exactly! Noonan says it herself but doesn't seem to realize it. beac Sep 2012 #10
I disagree, any good campaign can sell a bad candidate (Shrub anyone?) justiceischeap Sep 2012 #15
Whoa ... This is a Smackdown Royale ! Trajan Sep 2012 #2
The "Hispanics are dangerous to the nation" comment = disqualified as candidate!!!! uponit7771 Sep 2012 #3
I am glad he is too full of himself to listen to her. Kalidurga Sep 2012 #4
If there are any sane people left in the GOP to intervene aint_no_life_nowhere Sep 2012 #5
Remember her off-mic comments about Palin? Freddie Sep 2012 #6
She'd have to reach the point where rejects her sainted Ron... JHB Sep 2012 #11
You have to admit that Reagan's Republican party is much different justiceischeap Sep 2012 #16
Sure it was different then. But they WORKED to eliminate that moderation... JHB Sep 2012 #18
Okay, which one of you wiseasses told Peggy Noonan that people have souls? gkhouston Sep 2012 #7
she was schooled by nuns. grasswire Sep 2012 #12
Maybe he needs some angel-dolphins or points of light or something... JHB Sep 2012 #8
She is the epitome of a love/hate relationship with the political soul. cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #9
Romney didn't sound like a newbie campaign operative. He sounded like a CEO Orangepeel Sep 2012 #13
Kicking for the morning crew. MadrasT Sep 2012 #14
Peggy Noonan is always a must-read. She's taken on the "wise grandmother" role for Repubs. reformist2 Sep 2012 #17

beac

(9,992 posts)
10. Exactly! Noonan says it herself but doesn't seem to realize it.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:18 AM
Sep 2012

She shouldn't be encouraging Romney to be a better candidate because she herself just made the case that he is UNFIT to be President.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
15. I disagree, any good campaign can sell a bad candidate (Shrub anyone?)
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 07:52 AM
Sep 2012

I'm not saying they should but they can. The whole problem with RMoney, despite being RMoney, is that his campaign staff and the campaign itself has no discipline. They are off the rails big time. One thing I can give the GOP's is that, until now it seems, they could run a campaign like nobody's business. They were ALWAYS on message and with Mitt, it seems the wheels have come off that particular wagon. I think the Shrub presidency really damaged the Republican party and the Teabagger's are putting the nails in the coffin. It's amazing when, as a very liberal democrat, I find myself actually missing moderate republicans and rooting for them to bring some sanity back to their party.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
2. Whoa ... This is a Smackdown Royale !
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 11:54 PM
Sep 2012

I have never seen such a biting, searing criticism of a GOP by a GOP ...

Behind the woodshed with you, Lil Mitt .......

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
4. I am glad he is too full of himself to listen to her.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:00 AM
Sep 2012

She has some good ideas. It strikes me that some of them are somewhat progressive. Perhaps she is a progressive and doesn't even know it. She might benefit from a bit more introspection herself. In any case good article. I don't agree with a lot of it, but I see it's well thought out and seems invective free enough.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
5. If there are any sane people left in the GOP to intervene
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:04 AM
Sep 2012

Hard as it is to believe, but among Cain, Bachmann, Perry, Santorum, and Gingrich, Romney was probably the least weird, the most well-prepared, and the most Presidential, and that's not saying much. And besides these nutcases there were other nuts even less Presidential who didn't run.

Freddie

(9,259 posts)
6. Remember her off-mic comments about Palin?
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:06 AM
Sep 2012

Right on the money.
She's too smart to be a Repug, maybe she'll come to the dark side someday.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
11. She'd have to reach the point where rejects her sainted Ron...
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:18 AM
Sep 2012

...and that would be a bitter spiritual divorce.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
16. You have to admit that Reagan's Republican party is much different
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 07:54 AM
Sep 2012

than today's Republican party. It was his admin that started this embarrassing spiral of insanity for their party but at least back then, moderate's were allowed to be moderate's--they weren't targeted for defeat by their own party because they weren't "right" enough. They were actually capable of compromise.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
18. Sure it was different then. But they WORKED to eliminate that moderation...
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 10:10 AM
Sep 2012

It didn't just evaporate on it's own. The "movement conservative" Reaganites (like Noonan) fed hate, hear, and paranoia -- and starved moderation -- to get themselves in power. Unsurprisingly, the part of their base that they fed grew, and the part that they starved withered.

Yes, they were different then. They had to be, lest they be relegated to the ranks of "ranting cranks". But they operated under the same "Zoh my God! If the Democrats are in control they will drive the country to utter ruin!" hysterics they do now.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
7. Okay, which one of you wiseasses told Peggy Noonan that people have souls?
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:12 AM
Sep 2012

That's not a factoid she would have acquired via life experience.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
8. Maybe he needs some angel-dolphins or points of light or something...
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:15 AM
Sep 2012

Still, it's a sign of the state of the Romney campaign when Peggy Noonan looks like a hard-nosed pragmatist.

Of course, one point she avoids or just doesn't get is that the state of the Romney campaign is a reflection of the state of the Republican Party. You've spent your career praising people like Romney and excoriating Democrats but you never paid attention to where that was leading your party. You built that, Peggers.

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
9. She is the epitome of a love/hate relationship with the political soul.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:18 AM
Sep 2012

She can be stunningly obtuse, but equally insightful...in my partisan opinion. But I'm always glad when she leans toward "our" side. She is neither bought nor sold and I respect that.

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
13. Romney didn't sound like a newbie campaign operative. He sounded like a CEO
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:56 AM
Sep 2012

Talking about his market share.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
17. Peggy Noonan is always a must-read. She's taken on the "wise grandmother" role for Repubs.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 08:02 AM
Sep 2012

It's not that she's always right - it's that Repubs almost always listen to her. If I am right, Romney will be apologizing by the end of the week. But it will be too little, too late to repair the damage.

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