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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 09:43 AM Sep 2012

Salman Rushdie Was On The Lawrence O'Donnell Show Last Night

-Said the film was crap but even crap is protected by the First Amendment
-And said more interestingly that the outrage caused by the film was "manufactured" by different groups jockeying for position.
-Also said the clerics who issued fatwas for him over his book never read it.
-Said the UK's and USA's response, defending his right to write the book probably saved his life.

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Salman Rushdie Was On The Lawrence O'Donnell Show Last Night (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 OP
He was also on Jon Stewart.... physioex Sep 2012 #1
He said he was genuinely concerned about professional "hit men" acting on behalf bullwinkle428 Sep 2012 #2
And some posters here would have us side with those who'd kill Rushdie over a Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #3
I Haven't Read The Book DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #4
It's definitely more inflammatory. cemaphonic Sep 2012 #9
His second point was an underreported factor in his own case. cemaphonic Sep 2012 #5
Rushdie is always interesting. hifiguy Sep 2012 #6
He was also on Charlies Rose. Said... Obamamite Sep 2012 #7
He spoke at my University in 2007... Blue Belle Sep 2012 #8

bullwinkle428

(20,628 posts)
2. He said he was genuinely concerned about professional "hit men" acting on behalf
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 10:11 AM
Sep 2012

of the Iranian gov't. when the fatwa was issued, and that lasted for a number of years before the situation was finally defused through USA/UK diplomatic efforts (are you listening, Fuckwitt Mitt?).

He also added that this latest "enhanced bounty" effort is the work of one lone nut cleric, and he's not taking it even a little bit seriously. Very interesting interview!

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
3. And some posters here would have us side with those who'd kill Rushdie over a
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 11:12 AM
Sep 2012

book they have not read. They call for censorship and restrictions in service to criminal thugs who want to hold the mind of the world hostage. Rusdie is correct on all his points.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
4. I Haven't Read The Book
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:05 PM
Sep 2012

But from what I have heard about it's no more inflammatory than The Last Temptaion Of Christ which I have not seen.

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
9. It's definitely more inflammatory.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 01:51 PM
Sep 2012

The Last Temptation of Christ has a narrative conceit (actually two of them, now that I think about it) that would be considered heretical by most Christian, and definitely by Catholics, but the movie treats the life and character of Jesus, and the story of the events around his death pretty respectfully. Other than the final third of the movie, it's a pretty standard Passion play.

The Satanic Verses contains an extended retelling of the foundation of Islam told in an extremely insulting manner - Mohammad is named Mahound (a Crusader-era term that equated Mohammad with Satan), and is characterized as a pretty shifty and insincere opportunist, the local brothels start naming their prostitutes after Mahound's wives, and various other details that add a sarcastic bite to most of the legends about Mohammed's rise to prominence. There is also an extended subplot about a charismatic religious fanatic that leads an entire villiage into (probable) doom. And a section about Khomeini's exile in Paris that depicts him as one of those Hellmouth pictures that are all over the crazier paintings of Bosch and Bruegel.

Now, in context, the whole "foundation of Islam" section are the dreams of a paranoid schizophrenic undergoing an existential crisis, so it's not as if Rushdie was directly insulting Islam, but it is obvious to anyone who is at all familiar with his novels that he is using this fantastic premise to do some ax grinding. Oddly though, given all of this, of the two main characters, the one that embraces his religious heritage ends up in a much happier place than the one that doesn't.

Of course, The Satanic Verses is even more critical of the government and society of the 1980s UK toward immigrants than it is of Islam, but the British government went to considerable expense and trouble to defend Rushdie anyway.

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
5. His second point was an underreported factor in his own case.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:47 PM
Sep 2012

Everybody remembers Khomeini's fatwa, but before that, the controversy over the book was used to stir up the crowd during the 1988 Pakistan elections.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
6. Rushdie is always interesting.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:52 PM
Sep 2012

I've heard him on the teevee box a few times and he is a very thoughtful and insightful man who knows whereof he speaks.

Obamamite

(15 posts)
7. He was also on Charlies Rose. Said...
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:58 PM
Sep 2012

He said it's easy to get groups to protest and do mayhem because the people in those areas live a dismal life; a man with a family has a tough time making ends meet and rearing a family in decent circumstances, so they're angry to begin with. It's easy to get them riled up.

Blue Belle

(5,912 posts)
8. He spoke at my University in 2007...
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 01:04 PM
Sep 2012

He did the remarks for the "Opening Days" but no one told us ahead of time who would be speaking - it was very hush hush. When we got to the auditorium, there were private security people all around the perimeter of the building and inside. It looked like the secret service so some of my friends thought the speaker might be Clinton. When Rushdie appeared on stage, it all clicked and I felt a little sorry for him. He was even flanked by security when doing his book signing afterward. I know he downplayed the fatwa in the interview last night and said that it disappeared after a few years, but clearly the threat was still there. I can't imagine what it would be like having to live for decades being hunted because you wrote a book that was found to be offensive by people who never read it.

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