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Big Ed: For the very first time MSNBC between 8:00PM thru 10:00PM BEATS FOX NEWS (Original Post) bigdarryl Sep 2012 OP
Way to go, Big Eddie! Fawke Em Sep 2012 #1
Go Big Ed! Kick goclark Sep 2012 #3
Here is a link to what we are talking about I believe--------- winstars Sep 2012 #46
People are starting to realize that Fox is lying to them. southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #2
I don't think that's exactly it... hughee99 Sep 2012 #5
Also, more of them are tuning into MSNBC ecstatic Sep 2012 #13
Also a possiblity. hughee99 Sep 2012 #17
And if anyone was interested in hearing about the Romney secret tape . . . ncgrits Sep 2012 #38
Wow, I guess that is why MSNBC outrated Fox last night in the time slot of 8 - 10:00 pm. southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #45
Woot! Tennessee Gal Sep 2012 #4
mr o'reaaallyyy is going to like this n/t rsweets Sep 2012 #6
My only way to see MSNBC is thru iPad. FredStembottom Sep 2012 #7
I'm sure the ratings are still measured as they've been SheilaT Sep 2012 #20
I think I did that too. Was it a booklet thingie? catbyte Sep 2012 #25
Yes, it was. SheilaT Sep 2012 #32
FOX is not a broadcast channel RockaFowler Sep 2012 #27
Thank you. Without a TV SheilaT Sep 2012 #31
FOX entertainment channel is a broadcast channel, but FAUX News is a cable channel. However, Fla Dem Sep 2012 #36
I downloaded Puffin for a browser gateley Sep 2012 #28
Current is also drawing some viewers and rurallib Sep 2012 #8
Eliot Spitzer is great. I switch between him and Ed. nt valerief Sep 2012 #10
I wish I could switch between them.....I only get MSNBC....no Current TV a kennedy Sep 2012 #12
I get it but it normally comes on upgraded packages which are expensive. AnnieK401 Sep 2012 #30
I bought it for the election, too, but I'll probably keep it. Never know when MSNBC will fill its valerief Sep 2012 #41
so do I. rurallib Sep 2012 #18
YES! Go Big Ed!! flamingdem Sep 2012 #9
Yay for Ed & Rachael!!! BumRushDaShow Sep 2012 #11
Congrats to Big Ed and Rachel sakabatou Sep 2012 #14
rw'ers are becoming disheartened and are giving up NightWatcher Sep 2012 #15
This is great. I bet when they tuned in for the Democratic conventioni they liked what they saw; kimbutgar Sep 2012 #16
He may be speaking of demographics railsback Sep 2012 #19
What are the numbers? Iliyah Sep 2012 #21
Was he referring to the Dem convention? DLine Sep 2012 #22
Monday, 9/17 SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2012 #43
I wonder if FOX's determination to ignore Romney's assholery is making them seek info. nolabear Sep 2012 #23
Here are the numbers joeglow3 Sep 2012 #24
That sounds mournful get the red out Sep 2012 #26
Going by my relatives.... Mopar151 Sep 2012 #29
Was ESPN covering a tractor pull? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #33
Congratulations to Ed and Rachel Liberalynn Sep 2012 #34
huge news! samsingh Sep 2012 #35
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #37
msnbc was great tv last night - they were positively gleeful... polichick Sep 2012 #39
Wonder what Current's ratings are these days . . . SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2012 #40
Great news malaise Sep 2012 #42
Hre's where a lot of Fox viewers ended up going in the last year, and didn't get replaced... Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #44

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
5. I don't think that's exactly it...
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:20 PM
Sep 2012

I think many repukes already know they're voting for a turd, they don't like being reminded of it nightly. They're going to pay as little attention to the election as they can between now and November and vote for Romney because they've already made up their mind that he's the lesser of two evils.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
17. Also a possiblity.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 01:00 PM
Sep 2012

I think they've been rolling their eyes since the convention whenever Romney or Ryan puts their foot in their mouth and Fox attempts to spin it as a positive. They're just tired of listening to that.

ncgrits

(916 posts)
38. And if anyone was interested in hearing about the Romney secret tape . . .
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 02:44 PM
Sep 2012

they had to watch something other than Fox. They weren't covering it. . . .

FredStembottom

(2,928 posts)
7. My only way to see MSNBC is thru iPad.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:22 PM
Sep 2012

Like the Rachel app.

Do any of us non-cable watchers even count in the ratings?
I bet MSNBC has big numbers of "viewers" like me.

After all, the FoxNews crowd can't get that channel on their AOL eMail.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
20. I'm sure the ratings are still measured as they've been
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 01:06 PM
Sep 2012

for a very long time now, by Nielsen or perhaps one or two other companies. I was for one week a Nielsen family. Not the kind with the equipment to monitor my TV and automatically not what I was watching, but the kind with a diary to keep. It was a sufficient nuisance to write down what I was watching, that I actually reduced my TV watching during that week.

I'm also one without a TV, and I do all of my television watching via the internet, so there is absolutely no way I'm being counted either. I do watch Rachel every evening, and it does not seem as though The ED Show or the Last Word are posted in a way that makes if convenient to watch them. I also can't seem to figure out how to watch the Chris Whatsisname show on Saturday and Sunday.

Also, isn't Fox a broadcast channel, rather than just cable?

What percentage of people who have a TV still only get broadcast?

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
32. Yes, it was.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 02:20 PM
Sep 2012

It was interesting to me how my personal sense of honesty didn't allow me to simply lie about what I was watching, but instead altered my viewing habits.

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
27. FOX is not a broadcast channel
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 01:50 PM
Sep 2012

FOX News is a cable channel only and not on broadcast only cable systems

And sadly, you guys only count in Internet hits. Not in actual TV Household ratings

Fla Dem

(23,590 posts)
36. FOX entertainment channel is a broadcast channel, but FAUX News is a cable channel. However,
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 02:42 PM
Sep 2012

a majority of cable systems carry FOX News and CNN on their basic line ups. I know at least the 2 cable systems I have had (Time Warner and Comcast) carry MSNBC on a higher tier of programming, so you have to upgrade your programming to get MSNBC. You would think with Comcast now owning NBC, they would make MSNBC available on their basic programming.

Oh, and it's Chris Matthews.

rurallib

(62,384 posts)
8. Current is also drawing some viewers and
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:34 PM
Sep 2012

I also wonder if Beck's new network is drawing the real fucking crazies?

a kennedy

(29,617 posts)
12. I wish I could switch between them.....I only get MSNBC....no Current TV
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:49 PM
Sep 2012

have requested it through my cable provider....nothing as of yet.

AnnieK401

(541 posts)
30. I get it but it normally comes on upgraded packages which are expensive.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 02:16 PM
Sep 2012

I am paying a good bit extra for it, mainly for the morning line up. Will probably downgrade to a cheaper package after the election.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
41. I bought it for the election, too, but I'll probably keep it. Never know when MSNBC will fill its
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 02:54 PM
Sep 2012

pm hours with Andrea Mitchell and Joe Scarborough and Chuck-shoot me now-Todd. (Arrgh!!!!! Hell!!!!!)

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
15. rw'ers are becoming disheartened and are giving up
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:56 PM
Sep 2012

they feel more and more that they have been defeated and they are withdrawing from the news, radio, current events....

they will not show up to vote but will stay home, eat cheese from a can, and watch a reality tv show instead.

kimbutgar

(21,055 posts)
16. This is great. I bet when they tuned in for the Democratic conventioni they liked what they saw;
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:58 PM
Sep 2012

civil discourse with thought provoking insight and no republican talking points.

 

railsback

(1,881 posts)
19. He may be speaking of demographics
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 01:05 PM
Sep 2012

such as the much coveted 25-54 age range. O'Reilly still kills overall, but Ed has more than cut that lead in half, and is almost even in the 25-54. Rachel is almost tied with Hannity overall, but has overtaken him in the 25-54 - that is HUGE. O'Donnell seems to be doing the best against giant flake Greta.

I think the most promising thing about this all is that FOX is the only place for conservatives to go, so of course they garner the most viewership, all compressed into one area. MSNBC competes with all the others (CNN, CNBC, HLN) and has now virtually tied FOX. Good job, guys and gal. Even with some cable companies restricting access to anything not FOX in certain regions, this is excellent news.

(tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com)

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
21. What are the numbers?
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 01:16 PM
Sep 2012

Also, MSNBC (cable) is not available in many cities and towns. Many hotels in La Vegas do not carry MSNBC. But I guess its the cable package because a lot of Monterey,Cali hotels do not carry MSNBC either. FAKE fucking news is everywhere spewing total hatred and bullshit. FAKE news incites violence.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,087 posts)
43. Monday, 9/17
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 03:00 PM
Sep 2012

The convention likely introduced new viewers to MSNBC as they have picked up around 500,000 per show since. I check with tvnewser mediabistro hoping to see Current listed. I gather it will never be factored in owing to their only presenting news programming from 7 pm - midnight (ET). With tvnewser rathings, you always have to go to another link to get the overall ratings as the first shown are Demo areas.

nolabear

(41,934 posts)
23. I wonder if FOX's determination to ignore Romney's assholery is making them seek info.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 01:28 PM
Sep 2012

And if so, then they just might stick around for some persuading.

get the red out

(13,460 posts)
26. That sounds mournful
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 01:45 PM
Sep 2012

There must have been a lot of old folks that didn't make it through the long, hot summer in their climate change denial. The Fox viewership isn't getting any younger.

Mopar151

(9,975 posts)
29. Going by my relatives....
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 01:58 PM
Sep 2012

If they were inclined to watch Fox, the sheer ineptitude and piss-poor psuedo reporting have started to turn them off. Even if they prefer RW fiction to fact-checked news, they'd like a better performance, and the sheer amount of meanness is getting real old.

Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

polichick

(37,152 posts)
39. msnbc was great tv last night - they were positively gleeful...
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 02:48 PM
Sep 2012

...Lawrence was so giddy he cracked me up.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
44. Hre's where a lot of Fox viewers ended up going in the last year, and didn't get replaced...
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:57 PM
Sep 2012



Bad business model.

Fox is doomed inside of ten years as their loss in viewership to the Grim Reaper will only accelerate.
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