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Mosby

(16,295 posts)
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 03:39 PM Sep 2012

Genocides, unlike hurricanes, are predictable, says world expert. And Iran is following the pattern

Genocide is neither linear nor “inexorable.” It is, rather, predictable and preventable, so long as you recognize the universal signs. And Iran, in its language and action, has taken six of the eight steps on the path to genocide, according to Dr. Gregory Stanton, the world’s foremost expert on the matter.

Stanton, the founder and director of Genocide Watch, the world’s first organization to deal exclusively with this issue, and the author of an historic two-page paper on the nature of genocide, spoke at the Hebrew University medical school last week. He called for an international campaign to abolish the recurring crime of genocide and for the world to take action, as Canada has, to ostracize Iran and curb its genocidal intent.

Talk of genocide, Stanton said — of removing a cancer or crushing a cockroach — is never just talk. “One of the best predictors of genocide is incitement to genocide,” he said, “and I believe that is exactly what Iran is doing today.”

http://www.timesofisrael.com/genocides-unlike-hurricanes-are-predictable-says-world-expert-and-iran-is-following-the-pattern/

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Genocides, unlike hurricanes, are predictable, says world expert. And Iran is following the pattern (Original Post) Mosby Sep 2012 OP
What a crock. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #1
Stirring the pot -- Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2012 #2
I don't buy this cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #3
who said anything about missles? Mosby Sep 2012 #6
How else would Iran commit genocide against the Israeli people? Fumesucker Sep 2012 #8
by delivering a nuke via syria and hezbollah Mosby Sep 2012 #11
The US dropped two nukes on Japan and that wasn't and isn't considered genocide.. Fumesucker Sep 2012 #13
Okay... your point? cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #10
Amazing BS cpwm17 Sep 2012 #4
I don't understand your comment Mosby Sep 2012 #5
disgusting trash.......! KoKo Sep 2012 #7
It is the paper where this was published that gives me pause nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #9
times of israel is not far right wing Mosby Sep 2012 #12
Well they did shoot from hip nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #15
Small problem with that Spider Jerusalem Sep 2012 #14
They could use WMDs, nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #16
More genocidal hate speech from Iran's President Mosby Sep 2012 #17

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
3. I don't buy this
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:25 PM
Sep 2012

What he counts as step 6 "preparations" is awfully thin, and the comparable cases involve people within a nation or adjacent. Nobody has ever committed genocide via missile and the assumption that doing so is comparable to exterminating a native or militarily occupied population seems ad hoc to me.

Mosby

(16,295 posts)
11. by delivering a nuke via syria and hezbollah
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:55 PM
Sep 2012

In a van or something.

Clearly iran would not be so stupid to launch a midrange nuclear missle at israel or anywhere else.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
13. The US dropped two nukes on Japan and that wasn't and isn't considered genocide..
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:59 PM
Sep 2012

A single nuke would do a lot of damage and kill a lot of people but it wouldn't wipe out Israel.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
10. Okay... your point?
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:51 PM
Sep 2012

I assume you are talking about delivery of nuclear weapons by some means other than missiles, then.

The article was explicit that the "preparation" phase is development of WMD.

Since Israel is far away from Iran, whatever genocide the fellow thinks will be accomplished by these WMD is long-distance.

So substitute, "by long distance" if preferable.

Unless the whole point of the article was the genocide of the (small) jewish population of Iran, which would probably not involve WMD.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
9. It is the paper where this was published that gives me pause
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:50 PM
Sep 2012

(RW paper as in far right), but I am familiar with his work. He is not the only one to work in the field, but he has a problem... geography.

Unlike the Iranians can fullfil this using WMDs (which will guarantee an equal response), they have, if it still there, a very small jewish population.

This is not trying to exterminate a cancer in your mist, which is a common aspect of this... and if they go there... the IDF will launch.

Mosby

(16,295 posts)
12. times of israel is not far right wing
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:59 PM
Sep 2012

Or really right wing at all, not sure why you have that opinion about them.

They do have a tendency, like a lot of israeli media to shoot from the hip.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
14. Small problem with that
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 05:09 PM
Sep 2012

Genocides happen in areas where the group committing the genocide has territorial control (cf. European Jews in Nazi-dominated Europe, Armenians in the Ottoman Empire, Native Americans, etc). Talking of an Iranian "genocide" of Jews is frankly absurd and nonsensical unless he posits that Iran plans to invade and occupy Israel. Which is not going to happen.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
16. They could use WMDs,
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 05:12 PM
Sep 2012

but that would lead to a MAD scenario.

I am familiar with his work, he is a good egg, and has done a lot of break through research, but in this case... while it fits, he is missing two critical elements, one if territorial control.

Mosby

(16,295 posts)
17. More genocidal hate speech from Iran's President
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:36 PM
Sep 2012
In New York, defiant Ahmadinejad says Israel will be "eliminated"

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Monday Israel has no roots in the Middle East and would be "eliminated," ignoring a U.N. warning to avoid incendiary rhetoric ahead of the annual General Assembly session.

Ahmadinejad also said he did not take seriously the threat that Israel could launch a military strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, denied sending arms to Syria, and alluded to Iran's threats to the life of British author Salman Rushdie.

http://news.yahoo.com/iran-prepared-defend-against-israel-attack-ahmadinejad-123911011.html
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