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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI Might Get Crucified For This But I Think Romney Is A Worse Person Than Bush*
If you didn't talk politics I imagine Bush* would be a fun guy to watch a sporting event with. Romney reminds you of the boss who gave you a pink slip.
madokie
(51,076 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)if you were out with either of them for a night of drinks. Bush would likely be a lot more fun before passing out.
Mitt would likely put something in your drink and sell you into slavery.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)Somebody give James Bath a call, he always liked to play!
bluesbassman
(19,361 posts)I seriously laughed out loud on that one. Nice.
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)I damn near broke into tears. I keep picture him drooling like the wolf in Little Red Riding Hood.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts).
You win. What I was going to add can't beat this one.
Of course, you've given me fuel for some pretty disgusting nightmares. Not cool. Put horns and a tail on that fucker to make that slimy grin seem more natural.
JustAnotherGen
(31,783 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)Fucking True! You have romney's number!
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)how many innocents Rmoney would have killed if he were President.
We know Bush killed many thousands....
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)died in a war that makes billions for there lobbyists. Romney is a wealthy power hungry sociopath just like Bush except he doesn't drink.
Sociopaths who stay straight can do more damage than drunk ones.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Bush has core principles, even if they're wrong and arguably antisocial.
Romney has none. All he wants is power and words are simply tools to achieve it. Re-evaluating the lay of the land and reaching different conclusions is one thing, but simply repeating what the audience wants to hear is something else.
You don't know what he's going to do. All you know is that whatever it is, it will make him wealthier.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)At least better than Romney every could.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)And grabbed the bullhorn. I can't imagine Romney doing that.
fugop
(1,828 posts)Seriously, I to this day think Bush didn't even WANT to be president. So he just did what he was told. But I do believe he wasn't doing things specifically to screw people - he was just an idiot and listened to psychos, so it happened.
Don't get me wrong. I can't stand him and his policies and loathed his dirty campaigning. But I agree. Romney is worse. He at least THINKS he's smart. He believes he's above the rest of us. He's dangerous in a whole different way than BUsh was.
jsr
(7,712 posts)Bush was basically lazy. The only serious money he made was from the Texas Rangers deal, which was heavily financed by taxpayers. Romney is singularly money-driven, and entirely without principles.
NotThisTime
(3,657 posts)Romney should know better but he doesn't, there's no doubt Bush never knew better and was never going to know better. Moreover Romney is mean spirited to say it politely. As much as I greatly dislike Bush (putting it politely) Romney is twice as bad.
fugop
(1,828 posts)Romney's mean-spirited. That's exactly it. I disagreed with almost everything Bush did and said, but I think he thought he was doing what was best in his heart. He still sucked, but Romney has a darkness in his heart. He's just mean and selfish. It's scary.
ReasonableToo
(505 posts)I'm thinking Bush was Cheney's puppet but Romney is a non-candidate. I really don't think they are after the White House yet. Think about all the damaged goods in the R primary for this year. They're after Senate and state houses this go around and will put a real candidate up in 2016. Remember Christie saying that he was "told that it's not his time" after people begged him to step into primary?
We still need to watch elections carefully. And get back to verifiable paper ballots ASAP.
Rider3
(919 posts)I think that W. meant well but was, well, dumb. Romney is a smart man with NO heart (sort of like Cheney). No good can come from him (or Cheney...).
VWolf
(3,944 posts)vomit and herpes.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)I will say that Romney seems to take more glee in being a villain in the old fashioned sense of the word. Bush was just a puppet.
Solly Mack
(90,758 posts)Bush committed war crimes and Romney hasn't had the chance yet.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)and could laugh at himself and his shortcomings. Deep down he knows he isn't all that bright. What makes Willard worse is that he has no sense of humor, cannot laugh at himself and thinks he is always the smartest guy in the room.
Little Boots would go along to get along, i.e., with DicKKK. Had someone less monstrous than Cheney been VP the Blivet's would likely have been a barely distinguishable tenure, much like his father's. Romney is gonna do it his way come hell or high water. And you know damn well he is constitutionally incapable of laughing at himself or anything save the suffering of others.
Good doG, Bush was the worst POTUS in history, and Willard almost makes him look good.
Yavin4
(35,423 posts)It ws Cheney who was the real asshole.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Romney said he was divider.
cstanleytech
(26,251 posts)He united the republicans against the rest of america.
He united many of the extreme elements of Islam by providing them training grounds over in Iraq and Afghanistan.
He united scotus into a conservative bastion.
So really, he was a uniter.
Raster
(20,998 posts)...I think he was more of a drunken, sociopathic mess that any of us really knew... probably more of tragic figure than anything else.
HOWEVER, I firmly believe that cheney* is a black-hearted, PNAC card-carrying psychopath.
ReasonableToo
(505 posts)a la izquierda
(11,791 posts)I never got the sense that Bush himself hated Democrats, though I feel certain Cheney et al did. But I really didn't think Bush would hate me as a Democrat. Does that make sense?
I do feel like this iteration of Romney would hate me for all that I represent. Perhaps it's all an act, but whether or not he would hate me as a Democrat, I think people like him thrive on eating people's souls...and that's why he had the pre-politics career that he did.
Freddie
(9,257 posts)But you're right, not a mean person. Came from great wealth also, but never came across as superior or condescending.
I can't imagine him simply writing off half the country as too unimportant to be bothered with.
shanti
(21,675 posts)i think *ush is also an entitled prick with a mean streak, he just hides it better. rmoney doesn't hide it at all....
the person who gets my wholehearted disgust is the BIG DICK - i detest him!
Raine
(30,540 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Mitt lacks that ability to interact comfortably with those he doesn't like or respect.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)Romney is MUCH worse than Bush. And it will only get worse all the way to November!
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)I don't think Bush would be a fun guy to hang out with.
He's a privileged asshole (like Romney). I've known people like that. They see themselves at the top of the pecking order and those around them have to keep kissing their ass and stroking their ego -- or they get mean.
He's also the type of guy who would run up a tab and stick you with it -- or pick a fight with a group of thugs and then disappear, while you're left holding the bag.
People like Bush don't have friends. They have entourages. Romney's the same way. They're both horrible people, but in different ways. One thing I've noticed is that no "friends" are stepping forward to defend Romney -- not even people who were at the event on the video. When Clinton was in trouble, he had friends who stuck by him. Not Romney. All he can do is drag out Ann to make some stupid statement.
avebury
(10,951 posts)No personal friends or anyone that attended that fundraiser have stepped forward to defend Romney.
Generic Brad
(14,272 posts)He apologized for the damned waiter staff that exposed their little tete a tete.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Romney is such a bad guy that ,imho, he makes Bush* look good...
Back in the day I made a thread where I promised to donate $25.00 to DU in honor of the poster who made the best anti-Bush* essay.
The line that sticks in my mind about Bush from those essays to this day is that "Bush is the type of guy who would sneer at two women kissing unless they were hot."
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Romney scares me.
oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)as not worth his time... tells me a lot about his character...his campaign so far indicates how he would govern.. if you had a problem with W. clearing brush at his ranch, visualize Willard just not thinking large portions of the job as simply not worth his time..
i really have a hard time envisioning why he ran.. did the man really think we would put someone in office who just didn't give a shit?.. we are very fortunate this weeks tape probably killed any chance of his ever being elected..
avebury
(10,951 posts)What else is there left for him to acquire?
unblock
(52,126 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)barbtries
(28,774 posts)romney will never have the chance to do the kind of damage gw did, so gw will be able to hang on to the title of worst president ever for the time being.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Romney is not president.
Bush was incredibly awful. He did not give a rat's ass about anyone other than himself and his cronies. He happily lied about anything and everything, although he was far more consistent in his stands on various issues than Romney has been.
Bush was lazy and it showed. I would not want to spend thirty seconds in the company of either man. I do not believe that Bush would be fun to have a drink with, because his small-mind bigotry would be evident before the drink was served.
Romney would, if elected, put this country into even worse financial straits than did Bush, but then again he'll have had the benefit of the eight years of Bush, which Obama has so far not been able to get us out from under.
librechik
(30,674 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I remember during the reign of Dubya, people being flabberghasted that he made Nixon look good by comparison.
And now, just FOUR YEARS out of that ratfuck insane debacle, people are looking at Mitt Romney and going "you know, Bush wasn't that bad..."
it's just amazing how truly, absolutely godawful Romney is.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)How could a president who takes such tiny steps ever rope a steer? is what voters are thinking. Remember George W. Bush, how they asked him why he had that swagger and he said that down in Texas its what they call walking? That was pretty good. He swaggered and he was a dumbass. We could relate.
He was scary but in a different way from the way you are scary. He was scary like a dumb jock. How could George W. Bush be a plutocrat if he couldnt pronounce plutocrat? You are scary like a cyborg. Were afraid youre going to put us in a machine that harvests our organs.
http://www.salon.com/2012/09/19/dear_mitt_you_walk_funny/
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Romney is a malfunctioning Borg.
Cha
(296,893 posts)Ever or is there a worse Demon waiting in the shadows to emerge in 2016?
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)They're all the same.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Though admittedly it's like picking whether "Manos" or "Showgirls" was a worse movie: they're both terrible, and spending time analyzing why is time that could be spent doing something useful, like playing Tetris or cleaning up dog shit in the yard.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Bush was stupid and basically did what Cheney and Rove told him to do. What he brought to the campaign was name recognition.
Romney is mean. He hates people who aren't like him and he doesn't want to have to bother with them. That's what is frightening, to me.
ecstatic
(32,653 posts)Bush's cruelty is more transparent; Romney's cruelty comes out in the quiet rooms. Bush stabs you from the front, Romney stabs you in the back.
marasinghe
(1,253 posts)two horses' asses of the same Apocalypse - War & Famine.
the end result of their psychopathology would be the same: thousands, if not millions, of deaths -- either from the US war machine, from its armed surrogates, or by the enabling of their favored entities to plunder the food off the plates of the powerless, around the planet.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)tire store.
Romney always has made my skin crawl, and I really liked his father.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)riverbendviewgal
(4,252 posts)that horrible Pink Slime..meat...
He is as horrid as that.
JI7
(89,241 posts)but we could laugh at him. i think one difference is that i don't think Bush wanted to seepeople hurt. Romney seems to enjoy seeing people get hurt.
Bush was an idiot who thought the mess he was making was going to help people. all that homeowner society crap, the tax cuts etc. he actually believed that shit will help everyone.
but Romney just doesn't care about them and feels they deserve to suffer. it's their own doing.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)And Bush liked people. He actually wanted to just hang out all day and do nothing which is why he made a terrible President. Cheney was the intellectual in that administration. Mittens detests the little people. Both grew up wealthy but Romney has a much bigger disdain for doing ordinary things with ordinary people.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Ol' Mormon Missionary Mitt can't use that one.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)I'd never really hated anyone for more than 5 minutes before him, but I have to say that I abhor Romney and agree that he is much worse than Bush, if that is even possible. Never in my life could I have imagined the scores of repulsive candidates that would crawl out of the ugly underbelly of the Republican Party. I would have shaken my head in disbelief if someone had told me 5 years ago that the Republicans would manage to barf up someone worse than Bush, but I was clearly wrong on that one. The Republicans are still digging to the bottom of an endless barrel when it comes to utterly heinous and callous candidates.
eqfan592
(5,963 posts)I also think Romney could be even more damaging for our nation than Bush was. It's pretty sad when the Republicans put forward a candidate that actually makes me think positively of the Bush presidency in comparison!
And I agree with you on the sporting event thing. I could see Bush being a fun guy to party with. Romney, on the other hand...
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)is worse than being a war criminal who is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people in a war started through lies.
JI7
(89,241 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)is, at this point in time, worse than someone who may, at some point in the future, be responsible for many deaths.
JI7
(89,241 posts)Hitler is worse . does'nt take away all the horrible things stalin did.
mia
(8,360 posts)Bush didn't need to go THERE. Romney's stance will appeal to the middle class + ++ voters who are still working.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,615 posts)He's not bright; he'd been an alcoholic loser most of his life and jumped at the chance to be made president by TPTB (probably not even realizing how much of a puppet he'd be) to finally show the world he wasn't a loser. I now think Oliver Stone's movie "W" was pretty accurate as a psychological portrait of the guy. He's a nitwit whose development was arrested at the frat-boy stage, and he never should have been allowed within 100 miles of the Oval Office, but I'm beginning to think Mittens would be a much worse president.
Mittens is a mean, clueless dick who really does like to fire people, and who really does think half the people in the U.S. are basically just farm animals to be exploited. Bush could be fun to have a beer with, though if you invited him over to your house he'd drink all your beer, tell filthy jokes to your mother, try to do karaoke, pee in your rosebushes, puke on your feet, then pass out on your couch in his underwear. Mittens, however, would just sit at your kitchen table, sneer at your cookies and lemonade, and tell you all about the Book of Mormon.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)I'd rather spend an evening listening to Chinese opera than be with either of those parasites. At least at the opera I might eventually learn to appreciate the allure of what sounds to me like an atonal series of random noises, or maybe get a good nap.
MariaM83
(233 posts)yardwork
(61,539 posts)W would not be a fun guy to watch a sporting event with (unless you like being vomited on by a moran), but in any case Willard is worse.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)than Romney or Ryan. No doubt George W. does too. Now Dick Cheney radiates a Mr. Burns or Simon bar Sinister type of darkness. Romney and Ryan are so android like - they lack the personality to even properly radiate evil. The only time they appear the least bit natural or relaxed is when they are among their own kind at $50,000 a plate fundraiser dinners.
Mike Daniels
(5,842 posts)Bush comes off as a congenial goofball who would have been the account rep who takes the clients out on the town.
Romney comes off the as a used car salesman who would sell you a lemon with safety violations and then blame you for driving irresponsibly when the breaks failed on the interstate.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Mike Daniels
(5,842 posts)then I could see them as the profession I listed.
JI7
(89,241 posts)but he would be drunk and end up killing everyone .
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)...might become a war criminal on his own.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Romney is just a vulture sociopath.
cali
(114,904 posts)Now it's pretty safe to say it.
I wrote an OP saying exactly this months ago. I think it was pretty clear even then.
Raine
(30,540 posts)have believed there could be someone worse.
Cha
(296,893 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)In fact, Romney could be even worse. He is at least as bungling as Bush. Romney has excellent grammar and syntax, but he is just as klutzy otherwise.
agentS
(1,325 posts)Cheating on wives, bad spending, racism, hyper racism, sexism, isolationism- it wasn't a pretty sight!
If they were sitting next to me on a plane, I would ask for a newspaper and hold up to my face for 9 hours so I would not have to look at them.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)wars and lying about WMD's, bankrupting the country. . .
Romney closing down US manufacturing plants and outsourcing American jobs.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)and once that's established, unless one of them is Jeffrey Dahmer, they are pretty much the same in my book.
beemer27
(460 posts)One the bright side- Romney is probably the only politician on earth who can make W look good.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Willard Romney reminds me of the guy who foreclosed on granny...
jsr
(7,712 posts)"Yet this is not who we are as Americans. We have always found our better selves in sympathy and generosity, both in our lives and in our laws. .?.?. Our national character shines in our compassion."
ncgrits
(916 posts)This guy is truly heartless.
rock
(13,218 posts)Bush* lowered the bar for president (by Repubs) so that people like Rmoney could be deemed acceptable (by Repubs). And that bar is so low the phrase "snake's belly" comes to mind!
BeyondGeography
(39,351 posts)I think I'd rather stay home and test mouse traps with my dick.
Humphrey2
(12 posts)and I don't want to drink a beer with bush
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)While both could look down on the "peons", Romney's "new" money would more so than W's "old" money. How far back do you have to go with the Bush family to the person "who pulled himself up by his bootstraps? Aren't we hearing this from Romney about his grandfather in Mexico,etc? Mittens "ran his own business" making a lot of money himself. This is where his attitude, and disdain for the 99%, comes from.
Did W do this? He's just a "good ole boy", and wanted to be seen as such. This attitude would horrify Romney. He is ABOVE that.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)And let's hope never.
Bush was more dangerous b/c he had more power.