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I Might Get Crucified For This But I Think Romney Is A Worse Person Than Bush* (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 OP
No doubt on that madokie Sep 2012 #1
Compare The "Soft Bigotry Of Low Expectations" To "I'm Not Worried About the 47%." DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #5
Ugh, I despise Bush. That said, I think ProSense Sep 2012 #2
He Would Probably Berate The Host For Having Hot Dogs Instead Of Foie Gras DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #8
Offer Bush some coke and let the fun begin. sarcasmo Sep 2012 #9
put on the leather, Condi! We're gonna party tonight! Raster Sep 2012 #80
!!! bluesbassman Sep 2012 #10
That's 'cus yer a guy. Wait Wut Sep 2012 #36
ROTFLMAO DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #49
... Wait Wut Sep 2012 #32
Keyboard ruined! JustAnotherGen Sep 2012 #40
Lolz SmileyRose Sep 2012 #77
OMG! No shit. Mitt is a SCUMBAG. Raster Sep 2012 #79
Too Cha Sep 2012 #91
We will never know PowerToThePeople Sep 2012 #3
They are all cynical and couldn't care less about which poor or middle class person Lint Head Sep 2012 #4
That's true. n/t ProSense Sep 2012 #6
Don't disagree lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #7
Bush was kinda dumb but could relate to the working class LynneSin Sep 2012 #11
Remember After 9-11 When Bush Went To The WTC DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #17
Romney's worse because he's smarter fugop Sep 2012 #12
Romney is a smarter businessman jsr Sep 2012 #21
In his little segment of business to narrow it down even more NotThisTime Sep 2012 #52
Hit the nail on the head there! fugop Sep 2012 #63
Bush a puppet & Romney a farce ReasonableToo Sep 2012 #81
I'd agree with you... Rider3 Sep 2012 #13
Apples and oranges .... or more precisely, VWolf Sep 2012 #14
Which is which? Generic Other Sep 2012 #87
The only difference between Bush and Romney is Solly Mack Sep 2012 #15
As awful as Chimpy was, he had a sense of humor hifiguy Sep 2012 #16
I Don't Think That Bush Was A Bad Guy. Yavin4 Sep 2012 #18
Bush Said He Was A "Uniter Not A Divider" DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #24
And Bush actually was a uniter to be honest. cstanleytech Sep 2012 #44
Mind you, I don't think bush* was a good guy, not by a long-shot.... Raster Sep 2012 #78
Second n/t ReasonableToo Sep 2012 #82
I was thinking about this the other day. a la izquierda Sep 2012 #19
Bush was the village idiot Freddie Sep 2012 #59
blowing up frogs with m-80s isn't mean? shanti Sep 2012 #62
That's bad for sure but at least he never strapped Barney to the roof of his car. nt Raine Sep 2012 #92
Bush had social skills - as do many Sociopaths. ehrnst Sep 2012 #20
Bush killed millions, but I believe MItt would kill more just to out do Dubya. JRLeft Sep 2012 #22
That's why I say we're in uncharted territory today. randome Sep 2012 #23
I disagree 100 percent nichomachus Sep 2012 #25
That is an excellent point. avebury Sep 2012 #29
The fund raising host has apologized Generic Brad Sep 2012 #72
LOLZ DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #30
No flames here. AngryOldDem Sep 2012 #26
the fact that he just dismissed the Israeli Palestinian issue oldhippydude Sep 2012 #27
He only ran to get another notch on his belt of achievement. avebury Sep 2012 #35
only in some ways. rmoney's only after your money. shrub would delight in causing you pain. unblock Sep 2012 #28
I think both are creepy psychopaths. And Bush would give one a crappy nickname. WinkyDink Sep 2012 #31
Turdblossom. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #83
although hopefully barbtries Sep 2012 #33
It's kind of hard to compare them at this point, since SheilaT Sep 2012 #34
yes indeed--at least W had drugs and drink as an excuse for his lack of character librechik Sep 2012 #37
Just... wow. Scootaloo Sep 2012 #38
Click DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #39
"We’re afraid you’re going to put us in a machine that harvests our organs." Scootaloo Sep 2012 #42
The Chimp was a semi-amiable total dolt. hifiguy Sep 2012 #45
Will Romney be the Worst Cha Sep 2012 #93
Every dictator torments his people in the same way he was tormented as a child. Gregorian Sep 2012 #41
You'll get no disagreement here XemaSab Sep 2012 #43
Bush was stupid, but Romney is dangerous in my mind. hamsterjill Sep 2012 #46
They express their cruelty in different ways ecstatic Sep 2012 #47
ain't that the truth. Bush actively murders a million; Romney would let a million die. marasinghe Sep 2012 #60
If Bush never dealt with politics I think he would be an OK guy, like the local manager of a grantcart Sep 2012 #48
I would say that Rmoney has it in him to be worse than bush. n/t cynatnite Sep 2012 #50
I feel for Mitt Romney like I feel about riverbendviewgal Sep 2012 #51
i think Romney is worse, i don't think Bush would be a fun guy JI7 Sep 2012 #53
Bush was bad in many ways but Romney is worse. Jennicut Sep 2012 #54
Bush was a dickweed, but at least he had the excuse that he'd fried his brains with drugs & alcohol Arugula Latte Sep 2012 #55
I hated Bush. liberalmuse Sep 2012 #56
It's kinda funny, but my wife and I were actually just talking about this. eqfan592 Sep 2012 #57
Right. Because being a privileged out-of-touch asshole Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #58
you know Romney would create mess with wars also ? JI7 Sep 2012 #61
Someone who is already responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #67
yes like Hitler v Stalin JI7 Sep 2012 #86
I like bush better than Romney, but they're dealing with different issues. mia Sep 2012 #64
Bush was basically Cheney's tool. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2012 #65
Really? You think that idiot would be fun to hang out with? Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #66
no reason to debate this -- there's no lack of space in Hell nt MariaM83 Sep 2012 #68
They're both appalling but I agree that Willard is even worse. yardwork Sep 2012 #69
Hard to tell - they're both dirty, rotten sons-of-bitches! n/t backscatter712 Sep 2012 #70
Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, Sarah Palin all radiate far more human warmth and sense of humor Douglas Carpenter Sep 2012 #71
If you remove politics from the equation... Mike Daniels Sep 2012 #73
Your headline cracks me up! lonestarnot Sep 2012 #74
I guess what I meant was that if Bush/Romney had not been in politics.... Mike Daniels Sep 2012 #75
you give Bush too much Credit, better is Bush would insist on driving everyone home JI7 Sep 2012 #85
I understand your point , but Bush is a war criminal so. But give Mitt a chance, and he... hrmjustin Sep 2012 #76
Bush was the worst president ever, but he did have a few signs of human decency. geek tragedy Sep 2012 #84
When I said this 4 or 5 months ago, I got lambasted. cali Sep 2012 #88
I've come to that conclusion too. A year ago I would never Raine Sep 2012 #89
That's easy.. Cha Sep 2012 #90
Romney definitely has the potential! Quantess Sep 2012 #94
ALL of this year's Republican ticket were worse than Bush, Save Johnson agentS Sep 2012 #95
They're both fucking monsters! Starting unnecessary B Calm Sep 2012 #96
Bush actually created a slightly better persona but they are both sociopaths tavalon Sep 2012 #97
One accomplishment for Romney beemer27 Sep 2012 #98
I Have Had More Time To Think About This And My Position Has Only Become Firmer DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #99
At least Bush made statements like this: jsr Sep 2012 #100
I agree! At least Bush was some semblance of a human being. ncgrits Sep 2012 #101
Well, let's admit it rock Sep 2012 #102
Given the choice who to spend time with BeyondGeography Sep 2012 #103
I think so too Humphrey2 Sep 2012 #104
Old Money versus New Money HockeyMom Sep 2012 #105
Not yet, imo bigwillq Sep 2012 #106

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
2. Ugh, I despise Bush. That said, I think
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 03:44 PM
Sep 2012

if you were out with either of them for a night of drinks. Bush would likely be a lot more fun before passing out.

Mitt would likely put something in your drink and sell you into slavery.



Raster

(20,998 posts)
80. put on the leather, Condi! We're gonna party tonight!
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 11:28 PM
Sep 2012

Somebody give James Bath a call, he always liked to play!

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
36. That's 'cus yer a guy.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:05 PM
Sep 2012

I damn near broke into tears. I keep picture him drooling like the wolf in Little Red Riding Hood.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
32. ...
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:03 PM
Sep 2012

You win. What I was going to add can't beat this one.

Of course, you've given me fuel for some pretty disgusting nightmares. Not cool. Put horns and a tail on that fucker to make that slimy grin seem more natural.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
3. We will never know
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 03:44 PM
Sep 2012

how many innocents Rmoney would have killed if he were President.

We know Bush killed many thousands....

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
4. They are all cynical and couldn't care less about which poor or middle class person
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 03:45 PM
Sep 2012

died in a war that makes billions for there lobbyists. Romney is a wealthy power hungry sociopath just like Bush except he doesn't drink.
Sociopaths who stay straight can do more damage than drunk ones.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
7. Don't disagree
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 03:47 PM
Sep 2012

Bush has core principles, even if they're wrong and arguably antisocial.

Romney has none. All he wants is power and words are simply tools to achieve it. Re-evaluating the lay of the land and reaching different conclusions is one thing, but simply repeating what the audience wants to hear is something else.

You don't know what he's going to do. All you know is that whatever it is, it will make him wealthier.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
17. Remember After 9-11 When Bush Went To The WTC
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 03:52 PM
Sep 2012

And grabbed the bullhorn. I can't imagine Romney doing that.

fugop

(1,828 posts)
12. Romney's worse because he's smarter
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 03:49 PM
Sep 2012

Seriously, I to this day think Bush didn't even WANT to be president. So he just did what he was told. But I do believe he wasn't doing things specifically to screw people - he was just an idiot and listened to psychos, so it happened.

Don't get me wrong. I can't stand him and his policies and loathed his dirty campaigning. But I agree. Romney is worse. He at least THINKS he's smart. He believes he's above the rest of us. He's dangerous in a whole different way than BUsh was.

jsr

(7,712 posts)
21. Romney is a smarter businessman
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 03:54 PM
Sep 2012

Bush was basically lazy. The only serious money he made was from the Texas Rangers deal, which was heavily financed by taxpayers. Romney is singularly money-driven, and entirely without principles.

NotThisTime

(3,657 posts)
52. In his little segment of business to narrow it down even more
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 07:41 PM
Sep 2012

Romney should know better but he doesn't, there's no doubt Bush never knew better and was never going to know better. Moreover Romney is mean spirited to say it politely. As much as I greatly dislike Bush (putting it politely) Romney is twice as bad.

fugop

(1,828 posts)
63. Hit the nail on the head there!
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 08:27 PM
Sep 2012

Romney's mean-spirited. That's exactly it. I disagreed with almost everything Bush did and said, but I think he thought he was doing what was best in his heart. He still sucked, but Romney has a darkness in his heart. He's just mean and selfish. It's scary.

ReasonableToo

(505 posts)
81. Bush a puppet & Romney a farce
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 11:51 PM
Sep 2012

I'm thinking Bush was Cheney's puppet but Romney is a non-candidate. I really don't think they are after the White House yet. Think about all the damaged goods in the R primary for this year. They're after Senate and state houses this go around and will put a real candidate up in 2016. Remember Christie saying that he was "told that it's not his time" after people begged him to step into primary?

We still need to watch elections carefully. And get back to verifiable paper ballots ASAP.

Rider3

(919 posts)
13. I'd agree with you...
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 03:51 PM
Sep 2012

I think that W. meant well but was, well, dumb. Romney is a smart man with NO heart (sort of like Cheney). No good can come from him (or Cheney...).

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
87. Which is which?
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 01:26 AM
Sep 2012

I will say that Romney seems to take more glee in being a villain in the old fashioned sense of the word. Bush was just a puppet.

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
15. The only difference between Bush and Romney is
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 03:52 PM
Sep 2012

Bush committed war crimes and Romney hasn't had the chance yet.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
16. As awful as Chimpy was, he had a sense of humor
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 03:52 PM
Sep 2012

and could laugh at himself and his shortcomings. Deep down he knows he isn't all that bright. What makes Willard worse is that he has no sense of humor, cannot laugh at himself and thinks he is always the smartest guy in the room.

Little Boots would go along to get along, i.e., with DicKKK. Had someone less monstrous than Cheney been VP the Blivet's would likely have been a barely distinguishable tenure, much like his father's. Romney is gonna do it his way come hell or high water. And you know damn well he is constitutionally incapable of laughing at himself or anything save the suffering of others.

Good doG, Bush was the worst POTUS in history, and Willard almost makes him look good.

cstanleytech

(26,251 posts)
44. And Bush actually was a uniter to be honest.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:45 PM
Sep 2012

He united the republicans against the rest of america.
He united many of the extreme elements of Islam by providing them training grounds over in Iraq and Afghanistan.
He united scotus into a conservative bastion.
So really, he was a uniter.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
78. Mind you, I don't think bush* was a good guy, not by a long-shot....
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 11:25 PM
Sep 2012

...I think he was more of a drunken, sociopathic mess that any of us really knew... probably more of tragic figure than anything else.

HOWEVER, I firmly believe that cheney* is a black-hearted, PNAC card-carrying psychopath.

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
19. I was thinking about this the other day.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 03:53 PM
Sep 2012

I never got the sense that Bush himself hated Democrats, though I feel certain Cheney et al did. But I really didn't think Bush would hate me as a Democrat. Does that make sense?
I do feel like this iteration of Romney would hate me for all that I represent. Perhaps it's all an act, but whether or not he would hate me as a Democrat, I think people like him thrive on eating people's souls...and that's why he had the pre-politics career that he did.

Freddie

(9,257 posts)
59. Bush was the village idiot
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 08:16 PM
Sep 2012

But you're right, not a mean person. Came from great wealth also, but never came across as superior or condescending.
I can't imagine him simply writing off half the country as too unimportant to be bothered with.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
62. blowing up frogs with m-80s isn't mean?
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 08:23 PM
Sep 2012

i think *ush is also an entitled prick with a mean streak, he just hides it better. rmoney doesn't hide it at all....

the person who gets my wholehearted disgust is the BIG DICK - i detest him!

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
20. Bush had social skills - as do many Sociopaths.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 03:54 PM
Sep 2012

Mitt lacks that ability to interact comfortably with those he doesn't like or respect.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
23. That's why I say we're in uncharted territory today.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 03:56 PM
Sep 2012

Romney is MUCH worse than Bush. And it will only get worse all the way to November!

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
25. I disagree 100 percent
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 03:57 PM
Sep 2012

I don't think Bush would be a fun guy to hang out with.

He's a privileged asshole (like Romney). I've known people like that. They see themselves at the top of the pecking order and those around them have to keep kissing their ass and stroking their ego -- or they get mean.
He's also the type of guy who would run up a tab and stick you with it -- or pick a fight with a group of thugs and then disappear, while you're left holding the bag.

People like Bush don't have friends. They have entourages. Romney's the same way. They're both horrible people, but in different ways. One thing I've noticed is that no "friends" are stepping forward to defend Romney -- not even people who were at the event on the video. When Clinton was in trouble, he had friends who stuck by him. Not Romney. All he can do is drag out Ann to make some stupid statement.

avebury

(10,951 posts)
29. That is an excellent point.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:02 PM
Sep 2012

No personal friends or anyone that attended that fundraiser have stepped forward to defend Romney.

Generic Brad

(14,272 posts)
72. The fund raising host has apologized
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 10:37 PM
Sep 2012

He apologized for the damned waiter staff that exposed their little tete a tete.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
30. LOLZ
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:02 PM
Sep 2012

Romney is such a bad guy that ,imho, he makes Bush* look good...

Back in the day I made a thread where I promised to donate $25.00 to DU in honor of the poster who made the best anti-Bush* essay.
The line that sticks in my mind about Bush from those essays to this day is that "Bush is the type of guy who would sneer at two women kissing unless they were hot."

oldhippydude

(2,514 posts)
27. the fact that he just dismissed the Israeli Palestinian issue
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:00 PM
Sep 2012

as not worth his time... tells me a lot about his character...his campaign so far indicates how he would govern.. if you had a problem with W. clearing brush at his ranch, visualize Willard just not thinking large portions of the job as simply not worth his time..

i really have a hard time envisioning why he ran.. did the man really think we would put someone in office who just didn't give a shit?.. we are very fortunate this weeks tape probably killed any chance of his ever being elected..

avebury

(10,951 posts)
35. He only ran to get another notch on his belt of achievement.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:03 PM
Sep 2012

What else is there left for him to acquire?

barbtries

(28,774 posts)
33. although hopefully
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:03 PM
Sep 2012

romney will never have the chance to do the kind of damage gw did, so gw will be able to hang on to the title of worst president ever for the time being.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
34. It's kind of hard to compare them at this point, since
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:03 PM
Sep 2012

Romney is not president.

Bush was incredibly awful. He did not give a rat's ass about anyone other than himself and his cronies. He happily lied about anything and everything, although he was far more consistent in his stands on various issues than Romney has been.

Bush was lazy and it showed. I would not want to spend thirty seconds in the company of either man. I do not believe that Bush would be fun to have a drink with, because his small-mind bigotry would be evident before the drink was served.

Romney would, if elected, put this country into even worse financial straits than did Bush, but then again he'll have had the benefit of the eight years of Bush, which Obama has so far not been able to get us out from under.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
38. Just... wow.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:22 PM
Sep 2012

I remember during the reign of Dubya, people being flabberghasted that he made Nixon look good by comparison.

And now, just FOUR YEARS out of that ratfuck insane debacle, people are looking at Mitt Romney and going "you know, Bush wasn't that bad..."

it's just amazing how truly, absolutely godawful Romney is.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
39. Click
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:26 PM
Sep 2012

How could a president who takes such tiny steps ever rope a steer? is what voters are thinking. Remember George W. Bush, how they asked him why he had that swagger and he said that down in Texas it’s what they call “walking”? That was pretty good. He swaggered and he was a dumbass. We could relate.

He was scary but in a different way from the way you are scary. He was scary like a dumb jock. How could George W. Bush be a plutocrat if he couldn’t pronounce “plutocrat”? You are scary like a cyborg. We’re afraid you’re going to put us in a machine that harvests our organs.


http://www.salon.com/2012/09/19/dear_mitt_you_walk_funny/

Cha

(296,893 posts)
93. Will Romney be the Worst
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 03:54 AM
Sep 2012

Ever or is there a worse Demon waiting in the shadows to emerge in 2016?

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
43. You'll get no disagreement here
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:35 PM
Sep 2012

Though admittedly it's like picking whether "Manos" or "Showgirls" was a worse movie: they're both terrible, and spending time analyzing why is time that could be spent doing something useful, like playing Tetris or cleaning up dog shit in the yard.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
46. Bush was stupid, but Romney is dangerous in my mind.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:52 PM
Sep 2012

Bush was stupid and basically did what Cheney and Rove told him to do. What he brought to the campaign was name recognition.

Romney is mean. He hates people who aren't like him and he doesn't want to have to bother with them. That's what is frightening, to me.

ecstatic

(32,653 posts)
47. They express their cruelty in different ways
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:56 PM
Sep 2012

Bush's cruelty is more transparent; Romney's cruelty comes out in the quiet rooms. Bush stabs you from the front, Romney stabs you in the back.

marasinghe

(1,253 posts)
60. ain't that the truth. Bush actively murders a million; Romney would let a million die.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 08:16 PM
Sep 2012

two horses' asses of the same Apocalypse - War & Famine.

the end result of their psychopathology would be the same: thousands, if not millions, of deaths -- either from the US war machine, from its armed surrogates, or by the enabling of their favored entities to plunder the food off the plates of the powerless, around the planet.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
48. If Bush never dealt with politics I think he would be an OK guy, like the local manager of a
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:57 PM
Sep 2012

tire store.

Romney always has made my skin crawl, and I really liked his father.

JI7

(89,241 posts)
53. i think Romney is worse, i don't think Bush would be a fun guy
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 07:48 PM
Sep 2012

but we could laugh at him. i think one difference is that i don't think Bush wanted to seepeople hurt. Romney seems to enjoy seeing people get hurt.

Bush was an idiot who thought the mess he was making was going to help people. all that homeowner society crap, the tax cuts etc. he actually believed that shit will help everyone.

but Romney just doesn't care about them and feels they deserve to suffer. it's their own doing.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
54. Bush was bad in many ways but Romney is worse.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 08:00 PM
Sep 2012

And Bush liked people. He actually wanted to just hang out all day and do nothing which is why he made a terrible President. Cheney was the intellectual in that administration. Mittens detests the little people. Both grew up wealthy but Romney has a much bigger disdain for doing ordinary things with ordinary people.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
55. Bush was a dickweed, but at least he had the excuse that he'd fried his brains with drugs & alcohol
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 08:03 PM
Sep 2012

Ol' Mormon Missionary Mitt can't use that one.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
56. I hated Bush.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 08:05 PM
Sep 2012

I'd never really hated anyone for more than 5 minutes before him, but I have to say that I abhor Romney and agree that he is much worse than Bush, if that is even possible. Never in my life could I have imagined the scores of repulsive candidates that would crawl out of the ugly underbelly of the Republican Party. I would have shaken my head in disbelief if someone had told me 5 years ago that the Republicans would manage to barf up someone worse than Bush, but I was clearly wrong on that one. The Republicans are still digging to the bottom of an endless barrel when it comes to utterly heinous and callous candidates.

eqfan592

(5,963 posts)
57. It's kinda funny, but my wife and I were actually just talking about this.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 08:06 PM
Sep 2012

I also think Romney could be even more damaging for our nation than Bush was. It's pretty sad when the Republicans put forward a candidate that actually makes me think positively of the Bush presidency in comparison!

And I agree with you on the sporting event thing. I could see Bush being a fun guy to party with. Romney, on the other hand...

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
58. Right. Because being a privileged out-of-touch asshole
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 08:11 PM
Sep 2012

is worse than being a war criminal who is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people in a war started through lies.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
67. Someone who is already responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 10:12 PM
Sep 2012

is, at this point in time, worse than someone who may, at some point in the future, be responsible for many deaths.

JI7

(89,241 posts)
86. yes like Hitler v Stalin
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:17 AM
Sep 2012

Hitler is worse . does'nt take away all the horrible things stalin did.

mia

(8,360 posts)
64. I like bush better than Romney, but they're dealing with different issues.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 08:31 PM
Sep 2012

Bush didn't need to go THERE. Romney's stance will appeal to the middle class + ++ voters who are still working.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,615 posts)
65. Bush was basically Cheney's tool.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 08:32 PM
Sep 2012

He's not bright; he'd been an alcoholic loser most of his life and jumped at the chance to be made president by TPTB (probably not even realizing how much of a puppet he'd be) to finally show the world he wasn't a loser. I now think Oliver Stone's movie "W" was pretty accurate as a psychological portrait of the guy. He's a nitwit whose development was arrested at the frat-boy stage, and he never should have been allowed within 100 miles of the Oval Office, but I'm beginning to think Mittens would be a much worse president.

Mittens is a mean, clueless dick who really does like to fire people, and who really does think half the people in the U.S. are basically just farm animals to be exploited. Bush could be fun to have a beer with, though if you invited him over to your house he'd drink all your beer, tell filthy jokes to your mother, try to do karaoke, pee in your rosebushes, puke on your feet, then pass out on your couch in his underwear. Mittens, however, would just sit at your kitchen table, sneer at your cookies and lemonade, and tell you all about the Book of Mormon.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
66. Really? You think that idiot would be fun to hang out with?
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 08:42 PM
Sep 2012

I'd rather spend an evening listening to Chinese opera than be with either of those parasites. At least at the opera I might eventually learn to appreciate the allure of what sounds to me like an atonal series of random noises, or maybe get a good nap.

yardwork

(61,539 posts)
69. They're both appalling but I agree that Willard is even worse.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 10:21 PM
Sep 2012

W would not be a fun guy to watch a sporting event with (unless you like being vomited on by a moran), but in any case Willard is worse.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
71. Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, Sarah Palin all radiate far more human warmth and sense of humor
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 10:30 PM
Sep 2012

than Romney or Ryan. No doubt George W. does too. Now Dick Cheney radiates a Mr. Burns or Simon bar Sinister type of darkness. Romney and Ryan are so android like - they lack the personality to even properly radiate evil. The only time they appear the least bit natural or relaxed is when they are among their own kind at $50,000 a plate fundraiser dinners.

Mike Daniels

(5,842 posts)
73. If you remove politics from the equation...
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 10:57 PM
Sep 2012

Bush comes off as a congenial goofball who would have been the account rep who takes the clients out on the town.

Romney comes off the as a used car salesman who would sell you a lemon with safety violations and then blame you for driving irresponsibly when the breaks failed on the interstate.

Mike Daniels

(5,842 posts)
75. I guess what I meant was that if Bush/Romney had not been in politics....
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 11:14 PM
Sep 2012

then I could see them as the profession I listed.

JI7

(89,241 posts)
85. you give Bush too much Credit, better is Bush would insist on driving everyone home
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:13 AM
Sep 2012

but he would be drunk and end up killing everyone .

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
76. I understand your point , but Bush is a war criminal so. But give Mitt a chance, and he...
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 11:17 PM
Sep 2012

...might become a war criminal on his own.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
84. Bush was the worst president ever, but he did have a few signs of human decency.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:09 AM
Sep 2012

Romney is just a vulture sociopath.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
88. When I said this 4 or 5 months ago, I got lambasted.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 03:32 AM
Sep 2012

Now it's pretty safe to say it.

I wrote an OP saying exactly this months ago. I think it was pretty clear even then.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
94. Romney definitely has the potential!
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 04:38 AM
Sep 2012

In fact, Romney could be even worse. He is at least as bungling as Bush. Romney has excellent grammar and syntax, but he is just as klutzy otherwise.

agentS

(1,325 posts)
95. ALL of this year's Republican ticket were worse than Bush, Save Johnson
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 04:59 AM
Sep 2012

Cheating on wives, bad spending, racism, hyper racism, sexism, isolationism- it wasn't a pretty sight!
If they were sitting next to me on a plane, I would ask for a newspaper and hold up to my face for 9 hours so I would not have to look at them.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
96. They're both fucking monsters! Starting unnecessary
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 05:24 AM
Sep 2012

wars and lying about WMD's, bankrupting the country. . .

Romney closing down US manufacturing plants and outsourcing American jobs.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
97. Bush actually created a slightly better persona but they are both sociopaths
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 08:22 AM
Sep 2012

and once that's established, unless one of them is Jeffrey Dahmer, they are pretty much the same in my book.

beemer27

(460 posts)
98. One accomplishment for Romney
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 08:27 AM
Sep 2012

One the bright side- Romney is probably the only politician on earth who can make W look good.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
99. I Have Had More Time To Think About This And My Position Has Only Become Firmer
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 08:31 AM
Sep 2012

Willard Romney reminds me of the guy who foreclosed on granny...

jsr

(7,712 posts)
100. At least Bush made statements like this:
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 08:34 AM
Sep 2012

"Yet this is not who we are as Americans. We have always found our better selves in sympathy and generosity, both in our lives and in our laws. .?.?. Our national character shines in our compassion."

rock

(13,218 posts)
102. Well, let's admit it
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 08:45 AM
Sep 2012

Bush* lowered the bar for president (by Repubs) so that people like Rmoney could be deemed acceptable (by Repubs). And that bar is so low the phrase "snake's belly" comes to mind!

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
105. Old Money versus New Money
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 09:37 AM
Sep 2012

While both could look down on the "peons", Romney's "new" money would more so than W's "old" money. How far back do you have to go with the Bush family to the person "who pulled himself up by his bootstraps? Aren't we hearing this from Romney about his grandfather in Mexico,etc? Mittens "ran his own business" making a lot of money himself. This is where his attitude, and disdain for the 99%, comes from.

Did W do this? He's just a "good ole boy", and wanted to be seen as such. This attitude would horrify Romney. He is ABOVE that.

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