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JHB

(37,157 posts)
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 05:33 PM Jul 2020

I've eaten at restaurants, gone to a mall and attended concerts. That is life in France.

Consider this a companion to babylonsister's post This was written by an American ex-pat living in Italy


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/30/us-could-learn-frances-response-covid-19/

I've eaten at restaurants, gone to a mall and attended concerts. That is life in France.
Opinion by Timothy Searchinger
July 30, 2020 at 7:00 a.m. EDT

Over the past six weeks, I’ve eaten out at restaurants five times, attended two concerts, visited a large, busy indoor mall three times, had two haircuts, and repeatedly watched school kids run around the schoolyard. But that’s all been responsible behavior — because instead of being locked down in my house in the D.C. area, I’ve been in France, where life and the economy are now carrying on close to normal.

What France, like virtually all of Europe, has shown is that following standard expert recommendations for dealing with covid-19 works. France had a massive outbreak of covid-19 in the spring, almost as soon as anyone realized the novel coronavirus had reached Europe. The deaths began occurring late March and reached more than 24,000 by the end of April — a higher death rate than even the United States at the time.

But while the outbreak occurred primarily in only two parts of France, French President Emmanuel Macron imposed a severe, nationwide lockdown on March 16. And during that lockdown, the government put extensive testing and contact tracing in place. Almost exactly two months later, France mostly reopened. And for the last two and a half months, the country has functioned in a primarily open status with around 500 new cases per day and only about 450 deaths in the last month.

The French lockdown was severe. People were only allowed out, after filling out a form, to take care of elderly relatives or to go grocery shopping. To buffer the economic impact, the government directly paid a portion of salaries for those who could not work. And, voila, it worked.


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France and the rest of Europe are just showing what grown-up governments in well-off societies do, which makes our U.S. disaster all the more painful to watch (and for me to rejoin next week, alas). And while President Trump obviously is the source of our juvenile response, Congress also passed three emergency bills with trillions of dollars for relief but almost no instructions or resources for reopening.
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I've eaten at restaurants, gone to a mall and attended concerts. That is life in France. (Original Post) JHB Jul 2020 OP
I can't cheer for 450 deaths...that's 450 deaths too many... abqtommy Jul 2020 #1
That's per month. LisaL Jul 2020 #4
1,000 deaths a day is 1,000 too many deaths too... Let's not get complacent about this! abqtommy Jul 2020 #7
Our country is suffering insane toxic macho masculinity,.. magicarpet Jul 2020 #2
Sounds good, BUT... regnaD kciN Jul 2020 #3
Exactly. See my post below. Things aren't as rosy as this article indicates DrToast Jul 2020 #6
This is baloney DrToast Jul 2020 #5
Meanwhile here we have to do everything at home, and many of us are going insane. Initech Jul 2020 #8

magicarpet

(14,124 posts)
2. Our country is suffering insane toxic macho masculinity,..
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 05:54 PM
Jul 2020

... with those of infantile intellectual development residing in the people's White House and the halls of congress.

We must take our government and country back from these buffoons and clowns, right this ship of state, and replace it to a more beneficial charted course.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
3. Sounds good, BUT...
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 06:27 PM
Jul 2020

…I’m hearing reports from Europe that there’s a new wave of the virus breaking across the continent. Other countries are noting the growth of new cases with alarm, and, if it hits all the countries surrounding France, it’s only a matter of time before it picks up there as well. It seems like properly implementing measures like testing and contact-tracing can slow, but not stop, the spread of the disease.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
5. This is baloney
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 06:36 PM
Jul 2020

Lots of Europe is still having problems battling the virus.

Coronavirus: Home visits banned in parts of northern England

What Spain Is Telling Us About Second Wave of Coronavirus

Many countries that allegedly beat the virus did no such thing. They just shut everything down. That's the easy part. Beating the virus while opening things up is challenging, and many countries other than the US are still struggling with that.

Here's another one (although not specifically Europe): A second covid-19 wave is worrying Australia, Japan and Hong Kong

Initech

(100,043 posts)
8. Meanwhile here we have to do everything at home, and many of us are going insane.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 09:16 PM
Jul 2020

Myself included.

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