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Thu Jul 30, 2020, 08:47 PM

Trump is Using Us': Christian Republican Group Warns People Not to Vote For Trump in 2020 Election

A group of Republicans is urging Christians and Republicans to not re-elect Trump in the 2020 presidential election.

According to the Pew Research Center survey in July, White evangelical approval of Trump has slipped, but 8 in 10 say they would still vote for him.


The recent release ad, entitled “Trump is Using Us,” features six Republican voters who talk about how Trump uses and manipulates Christians.

In the minute-long video posted on the Republican Voters Against Trump YouTube channel, the group explains that the president doesn’t reflect Christianity or values based on his words and actions.

One major highlight of the video was the comments Trump made following a violent white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in 2017. At the time, he said there were “very fine people on both sides” when talking about protesters and rally-goers.

They also brought up Trump retweeting a man shouting “white power!” on his Twitter page.

More: https://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/news/2020/07/trump-is-using-us-christian-republican-group-warns-people-not-to-vote-for-trump-in-2020-election?PageSpeed=noscript&fbclid=IwAR1XV9FMVyfCnpG2QruKssxc44saWYLijEOn66KwaI3fFeCSmpM5VDmV5Kc

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Reply Trump is Using Us': Christian Republican Group Warns People Not to Vote For Trump in 2020 Election (Original post)
Quixote1818 Jul 30 OP
SharonAnn Jul 30 #1
gratuitous Jul 30 #2
Mariana Jul 30 #13
keithbvadu2 Jul 30 #18
lonely bird Jul 31 #36
lambchopp59 Aug 2 #52
lonely bird Aug 3 #58
demosincebirth Aug 1 #45
Mariana Aug 1 #46
demosincebirth Aug 1 #48
Cha Jul 30 #3
dchill Jul 30 #4
malaise Jul 30 #11
dchill Jul 30 #16
KentuckyWoman Aug 2 #54
TheBlackAdder Jul 30 #5
oldsoftie Aug 1 #44
RMVet Aug 1 #47
displacedtexan Jul 30 #6
malaise Jul 30 #12
Ferrets are Cool Jul 30 #7
JDC Jul 30 #8
Ilsa Jul 30 #9
Mariana Jul 30 #15
robbob Jul 30 #25
Mariana Jul 31 #26
JHB Jul 31 #38
Ilsa Jul 31 #40
lonely bird Jul 31 #35
Doodley Jul 30 #10
mshasta Jul 30 #14
dchill Jul 30 #17
dflprincess Jul 30 #19
Tommymac Jul 30 #20
BobTheSubgenius Jul 30 #21
pazzyanne Jul 30 #22
cheezmaka Aug 4 #60
NBachers Jul 30 #23
SergeStorms Jul 30 #24
Martin Eden Jul 31 #27
KWR65 Jul 31 #28
Johnny2X2X Jul 31 #29
keithbvadu2 Jul 31 #30
StevieM Jul 31 #31
StarryNite Aug 2 #57
dalton99a Jul 31 #32
Stuart G Jul 31 #33
Marcuse Jul 31 #34
Aristus Jul 31 #37
Roy Rolling Jul 31 #39
AnnieBW Jul 31 #41
ProfessorGAC Jul 31 #42
GoCubsGo Jul 31 #43
MasonDreams Aug 2 #49
bucolic_frolic Aug 2 #50
Skittles Aug 2 #51
lambchopp59 Aug 2 #53
qwlauren35 Aug 2 #55
betsuni Aug 2 #56
Sherman A1 Aug 3 #59

Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 08:49 PM

1. Of course he is. That's what he does. And "Everything Trump Touches Dies".

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 08:51 PM

2. Republicans have been doing it for decades

Hopefully, hearing it from members of their own tribe, more evangelicals will take a hard look at what they've become. Is "winning" worth the price of your soul? I've heard from a lot of evangelicals that nothing is more important to them than their souls. In return, they've gotten a bowl of pottage. Maybe these folks can start the Esau Project or something.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 09:42 PM

13. Actually, the opposite is also true.

The Evangelicals have been using and manipulating the Republican Party for decades, to get what they want, which is primarily the legal oppression of women, LGBT people, and non-Christians. They're hardly the innocent party in this.

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Response to Mariana (Reply #13)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 10:50 PM

18. They are also using him. Religion and politics use each other to gain power and wealth.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #18)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:47 PM

36. What do you get

when you combine religion and politics?

You get politics.

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Response to lonely bird (Reply #36)

Sun Aug 2, 2020, 07:22 PM

52. And concentration camps where "undesirables" die of neglect in squalid conditions.

Exactly what the many of the so called "loving evangelicals" want for me and my LGBTQ sort.

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Response to lambchopp59 (Reply #52)

Mon Aug 3, 2020, 06:48 PM

58. No argument

Religion is about social control.

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Response to Mariana (Reply #13)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 01:15 PM

45. As so-called christians, (hypocrite) should be included

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Response to demosincebirth (Reply #45)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 01:18 PM

46. Do you think these people aren't Christians? nt.

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Response to Mariana (Reply #46)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 08:12 PM

48. If they believe what trump says and does is is ok...? Then You can answer

That question yourself.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 08:52 PM

3. WOW!

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 08:53 PM

4. What was their first clue?

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Response to dchill (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 09:35 PM

11. You win the thread

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Response to malaise (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 09:54 PM

16. Thank you!

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Response to dchill (Reply #4)

Sun Aug 2, 2020, 07:39 PM

54. Can't get anything by Christians... they'll catch on every time... eventually

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 08:55 PM

5. Kind of tough to backtrack when y'all claim he was chosen by God.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #5)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 10:32 AM

44. I always agree & mention God's ALWAYS in contol. They agree. "So God chose Obama too"

Then they realize they have nowhere to go after agreeing that God is always in control!!
I've pissed off a few.........

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #44)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 03:12 PM

47. Excellent response!

I like to use "Trump insults my intelligence". Of course their response is "crickets....". Sometimes I even give examples of 45 insulting my intelligence (there are so many) and they reply with "more crickets....". Eventually they change the subject. Hopefully I've given them something to think about 🤔.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 09:07 PM

6. How many of these men are losing money, their jobs or their businesses?

So now, they've seen the light or Baby Jesus, and they suddenly see that Trump is using them? Oh. Right. Sure.

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Response to displacedtexan (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 09:35 PM

12. Well they can't even collect the tithes

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 09:10 PM

7. Are they ice skating in Hell yet??

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 09:18 PM

8. That's right "You are the sucker"

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 09:30 PM

9. They weren't convinced when they found out

he is a rapist, cheats on his 3rd wife who has just given birth, illegally uses campaign funds as hush money, makes racist statements, is beholden to Putin and Russia? What finally got them to change their minds about his character? I'd really like to know.

Franklin Graham has been conspicuously quiet, too.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 09:45 PM

15. None of that matters now. He's a Christian and God has forgiven him.

Just like it never happened.

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Response to Mariana (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 11:48 PM

25. Even though tRump has never confessed or asked for forgiveness

And even said in an interview that he doesn’t need to because he’s never done anything wrong. The complete antithesis of the basic fundamental basis of Christianity.

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Response to robbob (Reply #25)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:53 AM

26. So many popular and influential Christian leaders say he's a Christian.

Some of those Christian leaders know Trump personally, so they obviously know a lot more about his faith than I do. I'm certainly not in any position to argue with them. Thousands of Christian churches are preaching that he's God's own hand-picked president, put in office to implement God's will, and that support for him is essentially a tenet of their Christian faith. I'm not in any position to argue with that, either. It wouldn't be out of character for God to choose someone like Trump. The Bible is stuffed with stories about men who did much worse things than Trump has ever dreamed of doing, whom God put into positions of great power, and showered with His favor and His blessings.

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Response to Mariana (Reply #26)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:50 PM

38. Don't be so sure they know his faith better than you

Some of those leaders believe it because they want to believe it, and others see him as too good an opportunity to push their agenda to pass up, so they just declare him so, with the usual excuses for his faltering.

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Response to robbob (Reply #25)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:57 PM

40. I hope a reporter brings this up again, like they did in 2015 or 2016.

I'd love for his christian followers to hear him say that he hasn't ever done anything that requires forgiveness, so why should he ask?

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:45 PM

35. Franklin is like Donnie

They both have daddy issues.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 09:33 PM

10. Let every Christian Republican see the light and stand with us against Trump.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 09:44 PM

14. God works in a very mysterious ways

Finally the light 4 years late

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 09:56 PM

17. "Christian Republican."

They've got one fucked-up Jesus over there.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 11:04 PM

19. Minds like steel traps, these folks

Steel traps that have rusted shut.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 11:13 PM

20. They are reaping what they sowed - as have 150,000 + Deceased Americans.

Fuck Them and their holier then thou smugness.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 11:17 PM

21. Wow. They figured that out, did they?

And in only 3 12 years. Remarkable.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 11:27 PM

22. "the president doesn't reflect Christianity or values based on his words and actions."

I'm shocked, I tell you, simply shocked! NOT!!!

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Response to pazzyanne (Reply #22)

Tue Aug 4, 2020, 10:12 AM

60. A classic case of the "Blind leading the Blind"

And now all of a sudden the Blind can SEE....

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 11:33 PM

23. If only someone had alerted them to this appalling discovery!

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2020, 11:38 PM

24. 80% are still going to vote for the anti-christ?

They haven't learned a damned thing. Hypocrites, every one. Oh, but they did get conservative judges! But the country is going to be run by Democrats for the foreseeable future, so it's free abortions for everyone! Even the men!

Freaking idiots. How the hell can they look at themselves in their mirrors each morning? Christians my ass.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 08:08 AM

27. "White power!" is a feature, not a flaw...

... for many of these White evangelical voters.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 09:18 AM

28. They will vote for him because he is supposedly 'pro-life' n/t

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 09:21 AM

29. LOL, Trump is the perfect face man for American style evangelicals

Their entire religion is based upon violence towards women and there is no better example of that than Trump. He's the perfect Conservative Christian to them.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 11:08 AM

30. Trump and his evangelicals bumper sticker

Trump and his evangelicals bumper sticker

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 11:15 AM

31. They are the ones who have been using him.

First, they got to declare that their hatefulness was validated. They got to spew venom at our fine former first lady and declare themselves proven right, under the mantra that history is written by the winners. Ironically enough, it was actually Comey who got that for them, not Trump. But voting for Trump is what made it happen.

Second, they got the judges they want.

I assure you...these people have no regrets.

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Response to StevieM (Reply #31)

Sun Aug 2, 2020, 08:37 PM

57. A symbiotic relationship.

They are using each other.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 11:17 AM

32. 8 in 10 white evangelicals say they would still vote for him because


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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 11:18 AM

33. K and R

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:06 PM

34. So unlike.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:48 PM

37. Took them four years to figure that out?

Idiots...

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:00 PM

39. Finally!

I don’t know the provenance of Beliefnet , but they caught my attention. Trump has from day one tried to drive a wedge between rabid evangelicals and traditional Christians / people of other faiths.

Finally, the non-evangelical side has found its voice. They need to be isolated and shouted down.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:34 PM

41. They've Got Their Judges

Now they're throwing him under the bus before he throws them under.

WWJTUTB?

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:45 PM

42. Not A Peep For 3.5 Years

Now, they want to seem relevant?
These folks need to catch up.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2020, 05:27 PM

43. LOL!!! They're just figuring this out now?

Seems they've been asleep for the past 40 or 50 years, because that's how long the entire GOP has been using them.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:40 AM

49. It's not exactly common knowledge but the KKK thinks they are Christians.

People have very very different ideas about bring a good Christian. I just never could understand the contradictions being do blatant as they clearly are. Crusades happened. Why?

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Sun Aug 2, 2020, 10:03 AM

50. A real Christian would never vote for Trump

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Sun Aug 2, 2020, 04:53 PM

51. "Christian Republicans"

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Sun Aug 2, 2020, 07:37 PM

53. Trumpian "christianity":

?itok=ZWJtQL4p
?w=790&f=2083ef5fba595e55f1c5c9e9d585fdde

Jesus wept.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Sun Aug 2, 2020, 07:40 PM

55. The ad is missing one example.



I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Sun Aug 2, 2020, 07:53 PM

56. David Kuo wrote a book about being used as a Christian, policy advisor in the G.W. Bush

administration. "Tempting Faith, An Inside Story of Political Seduction."

Anyone who can't see this deserves the idiom: they don't have the sense God gave geese.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Mon Aug 3, 2020, 07:41 PM

59. Been nice if they would have figured that out

Some 4 years ago.

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