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Trump is at only 25% approval among independents, according to yesterday Reuters/Ipsos poll. (Original Post) highplainsdem Jul 2020 OP
No worries for him, they fear losing their Suburban Lifestyle Dream underpants Jul 2020 #1
Anyone with no ideology and a brain would disapprove of Trump SpaceNeedle Jul 2020 #2
For Sure cheezmaka Aug 2020 #30
No one ever lost an election The Mouth Aug 2020 #35
People are just itching to cast a vote SpaceNeedle Aug 2020 #36
Don't forget the Senate rkleinberger Aug 2020 #38
This is good news. I'm now cautiously optimistic, but I'll wait to see ecstatic Jul 2020 #3
Cancelling the election probably doesn't play well with indies Dopers_Greed Jul 2020 #4
.... and Trump is down in to Hitler numbers with approval. uponit7771 Jul 2020 #5
I live in a normally 65 pct Democratic township. roamer65 Jul 2020 #6
This is great...but I'm an avid 538 daily average watcher Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #7
Don't pay attention to the crowd insisting lower and lower Awsi Dooger Jul 2020 #11
Well....his numbers Were going down, consistently. Then, inexplicably Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #17
Not inexplicable really... Blasphemer Aug 2020 #27
Well it gained him a whole point in One week Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2020 #29
Hard to see how he reverses those numbers BannonsLiver Jul 2020 #8
And with schools opening, the virus isn't going to get better between now and the election Quixote1818 Jul 2020 #13
No wonder Federalist are Jumping ship uponit7771 Jul 2020 #9
Numbers Don't Quite Make Sense ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #10
Translation: 25% of Independents are complete imbeciles. Grins Jul 2020 #12
A lot of indies aren't really indie..... getagrip_already Jul 2020 #14
Totally agree!! Grins Jul 2020 #15
Exactly! mountain grammy Aug 2020 #37
For many years I was registered independent, but I voted blue in every election FakeNoose Jul 2020 #16
Same Here! ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #18
Who the fuck are are the 8% of Democratic Voters who support him????????? Tommymac Aug 2020 #19
+1, uponit7771 Aug 2020 #22
Dixiecrats and DINOs. Remember the Dem party was radius777 Aug 2020 #23
I think some southern rednecks never got around to changing their parties. Lucky Luciano Aug 2020 #39
Yeah he's done budkin Aug 2020 #20
that's 24% too high Demovictory9 Aug 2020 #21
And remember that among Independents a certain percentage are pretty much Republicans or Democrats JI7 Aug 2020 #24
Hope they vote that way Nululu Aug 2020 #25
How can one STILL be for Trump and claim independence lame54 Aug 2020 #26
I imagine the Obama voters who voted fro him in '16 would call themselves "Independent" oldsoftie Aug 2020 #34
Wow, there's basically no middle. tanyev Aug 2020 #28
Could it be because many of them may have filed unemployment this WEEK??? cheezmaka Aug 2020 #31
The "independent" label is SO PHONY! What complete FRAUDS! If they're for Trump... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #32
Independents win elections. And they're gonna beat trump oldsoftie Aug 2020 #33
It's 100% amongst nazis captain queeg Aug 2020 #40
Independents got him elected budkin Aug 2020 #41

The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
35. No one ever lost an election
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 07:06 PM
Aug 2020

underestimating the intelligence of the American people.

The last thing we need is complacency, we need to be on edge, HUNGRY, and on fullest alert until the Electoral College finalizes their vote. There's lots of time to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

 

SpaceNeedle

(191 posts)
36. People are just itching to cast a vote
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 07:22 PM
Aug 2020

Those who always said elections don't matter have been awakened. No better teacher than Trump to show that elections matter.

ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
3. This is good news. I'm now cautiously optimistic, but I'll wait to see
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 10:23 PM
Jul 2020

how the VP pick is received by the masses before I break out the champagne bottles. lol

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
6. I live in a normally 65 pct Democratic township.
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 11:43 AM
Jul 2020

However, things are not normal anymore.

I am predicting we will go 80-85 pct Dem this election.

My gut feeling for Michigan is a 15-20 point swing to Dem.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
11. Don't pay attention to the crowd insisting lower and lower
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:03 PM
Jul 2020

My goal is to keep the 538 number at 42% or lower on election day. That is a realistic goal. The ones asserting 30 or 35% don't know what they are talking about.

Republicans are never going to bail on Trump and Hispanics always have unusual loyalty to the incumbent. Those two factors alone prevent a drop. The numbers were saw a week or two ago were likely the bottom.

In particular, the occasional thread here with an anecdote of a Republican who voted Trump 2016 and now is switching to Biden are 100% meaningless. There are threads like that every cycle. Then the identical percentages show up in the exit poll.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. Well....his numbers Were going down, consistently. Then, inexplicably
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 06:06 PM
Jul 2020

In the last week, for god know what reason, he's rising again. 41.6 now.

42%s good

Blasphemer

(3,261 posts)
27. Not inexplicable really...
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 02:28 PM
Aug 2020

He's admitted COVID is a real problem, started encouraging mask use and supports another stimulus. He's obviously listening to someone with some common sense (Karl Rove perhaps).

Quixote1818

(28,928 posts)
13. And with schools opening, the virus isn't going to get better between now and the election
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:26 PM
Jul 2020

probably worse.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
10. Numbers Don't Quite Make Sense
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:41 PM
Jul 2020

Recent polls show 25% R, 31% D, 40% I
If this poll were spot on, Biden would be at 31+(40*2/3) or 57.67%
PINO would be at 25+(40/3) or 38.33%.
Have any polls showed Biden with a 20 point lead?

Grins

(7,212 posts)
12. Translation: 25% of Independents are complete imbeciles.
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 03:26 PM
Jul 2020

I can understand Republicans. They will believe absolutely anything the GOP shits down their throats, all while applauding and squealing for seconds.

But I have really had it with so-called "independents". Have they been asleep for four years?

getagrip_already

(14,708 posts)
14. A lot of indies aren't really indie.....
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 05:28 PM
Jul 2020

They just don't want a party label. Especially republican these days. So a lot of republicans are just calling themselves indies to not get painted with the shity brush of truth.

They will still vote r in secret.

In reality, there are very few voters who will swing from candidate to candidate if they like their positions without caring what party they are in. More and more voters are party line voters regardless of their label..


FakeNoose

(32,633 posts)
16. For many years I was registered independent, but I voted blue in every election
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 05:40 PM
Jul 2020

I just didn't want to join the Democratic Party. It all changed in 2008 when I wanted to vote for Hillary for President, so I had to join the party and vote in the PA primary. I never regretted it and never looked back, but it took something really significant to get me off my butt and join. I have no doubts there are conservatives doing the same thing.





ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
18. Same Here!
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 06:08 PM
Jul 2020

I didn't join until 2000 when I met Weller & Hastert.
I decided I needed to help get those 2 buffoons out of office.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
19. Who the fuck are are the 8% of Democratic Voters who support him?????????
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:34 AM
Aug 2020

THAT number makes me sick to my stomach.

Traitors to the Cause, every one.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
23. Dixiecrats and DINOs. Remember the Dem party was
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 05:05 AM
Aug 2020

more cultural conservative (especially in certain regions) and there's still vestiges of that, where such folks didn't change their registration but pretty much always vote Repub.

Lucky Luciano

(11,253 posts)
39. I think some southern rednecks never got around to changing their parties.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 10:29 PM
Aug 2020

For example, the crazy lady in Kentucky that refused to let gays get married after the SCOTUS decision. She was a Democrat, but switched after the controversy.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
24. And remember that among Independents a certain percentage are pretty much Republicans or Democrats
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 05:19 AM
Aug 2020

in how they regularly vote for one party. This is more true for republicans though.

so his approval among true independents (those who could vote for either party) is even lower.

oldsoftie

(12,531 posts)
34. I imagine the Obama voters who voted fro him in '16 would call themselves "Independent"
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:30 PM
Aug 2020

Or most voters who dont vote party lines. There are a lot of those out there. We ignore them at our own peril.

cheezmaka

(737 posts)
31. Could it be because many of them may have filed unemployment this WEEK???
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 11:16 PM
Aug 2020

The GOP along with Trump don't want to extend the $600 per week unemployment benefit. And many more will file unemployment in the weeks to follow. Anyone with good sense will not approve of a President who has allowed this pandemic to "dessimate" their livelyhood....

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
32. The "independent" label is SO PHONY! What complete FRAUDS! If they're for Trump...
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 07:58 AM
Aug 2020

If they're for Trump, then they're NOT "independent".

captain queeg

(10,171 posts)
40. It's 100% amongst nazis
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 11:10 PM
Aug 2020

I wonder if those dim bulbs realize Hitler was a National Socialist? That’s what the Nazi party was.

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