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TygrBright

(20,749 posts)
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 01:40 PM Aug 2020

Rolling Stone: "How Covid-19 Signals the End of the American Era"

Long, but a very worthwhile read: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/covid-19-end-of-american-era-wade-davis-1038206/

Over the last months, a quip has circulated on the internet suggesting that to live in Canada today is like owning an apartment above a meth lab. Canada is no perfect place, but it has handled the COVID crisis well, notably in British Columbia, where I live. Vancouver is just three hours by road north of Seattle, where the U.S. outbreak began. Half of Vancouver’s population is Asian, and typically dozens of flights arrive each day from China and East Asia. Logically, it should have been hit very hard, but the health care system performed exceedingly well. Throughout the crisis, testing rates across Canada have been consistently five times that of the U.S. On a per capita basis, Canada has suffered half the morbidity and mortality. For every person who has died in British Columbia, 44 have perished in Massachusetts, a state with a comparable population that has reported more COVID cases than all of Canada. As of July 30th, even as rates of COVID infection and death soared across much of the United States, with 59,629 new cases reported on that day alone, hospitals in British Columbia registered a total of just five COVID patients.

When American friends ask for an explanation, I encourage them to reflect on the last time they bought groceries at their neighborhood Safeway. In the U.S. there is almost always a racial, economic, cultural, and educational chasm between the consumer and the check-out staff that is difficult if not impossible to bridge. In Canada, the experience is quite different. One interacts if not as peers, certainly as members of a wider community. The reason for this is very simple. The checkout person may not share your level of affluence, but they know that you know that they are getting a living wage because of the unions. And they know that you know that their kids and yours most probably go to the same neighborhood public school. Third, and most essential, they know that you know that if their children get sick, they will get exactly the same level of medical care not only of your children but of those of the prime minister. These three strands woven together become the fabric of Canadian social democracy.

Asked what he thought of Western civilization, Mahatma Gandhi famously replied, “I think that would be a good idea.” Such a remark may seem cruel, but it accurately reflects the view of America today as seen from the perspective of any modern social democracy. Canada performed well during the COVID crisis because of our social contract, the bonds of community, the trust for each other and our institutions, our health care system in particular, with hospitals that cater to the medical needs of the collective, not the individual, and certainly not the private investor who views every hospital bed as if a rental property. The measure of wealth in a civilized nation is not the currency accumulated by the lucky few, but rather the strength and resonance of social relations and the bonds of reciprocity that connect all people in common purpose.

This has nothing to do with political ideology, and everything to do with the quality of life. Finns live longer and are less likely to die in childhood or in giving birth than Americans. Danes earn roughly the same after-tax income as Americans, while working 20 percent less. They pay in taxes an extra 19 cents for every dollar earned. But in return they get free health care, free education from pre-school through university, and the opportunity to prosper in a thriving free-market economy with dramatically lower levels of poverty, homelessness, crime, and inequality. The average worker is paid better, treated more respectfully, and rewarded with life insurance, pension plans, maternity leave, and six weeks of paid vacation a year. All of these benefits only inspire Danes to work harder, with fully 80 percent of men and women aged 16 to 64 engaged in the labor force, a figure far higher than that of the United States.


Powerful as a kick of truth in the gut.

somberly,
Bright
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Rolling Stone: "How Covid-19 Signals the End of the American Era" (Original Post) TygrBright Aug 2020 OP
It's what we get for electing an idiot who went bankrupt 7 times running casinos. brush Aug 2020 #1
Our election system is broken (gerrymandered and hackable). Our medical system is broken. BComplex Aug 2020 #3
Our system of government is broken. Putin's finding all the weak links. C Moon Aug 2020 #14
Americans are not so much Democrats as lunatica Aug 2020 #2
To counter... Newest Reality Aug 2020 #4
Trump Supporters Thought 2016 Was A Rebirth of American Prosperity. Sophia_Of_PlanetX Aug 2020 #5
I think it ended earlier with Reagan. Crowman2009 Aug 2020 #6
I agree Loge23 Aug 2020 #17
He was also a lowsy actor, according to Walter Matthau. Crowman2009 Aug 2020 #18
Well yeah, that too! (eom) Loge23 Aug 2020 #19
Bookmarked to read later. It looks like a wonderful piece, thank you for posting it! scarletwoman Aug 2020 #7
The ONLY STATUE needed anywhere in America is P.T. Barnum. He exemplifies the underlying basis of BamaRefugee Aug 2020 #8
Except for the human suffering that will come with it... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #9
It signals the end of one American era. We can make it better and stronger Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #10
Com'on. Where's your despair, your dystopian weltschmerz? Hortensis Aug 2020 #16
This is the heart of the problem: volstork Aug 2020 #11
We are all living the dream of vulture capitalism dlk Aug 2020 #12
Lots of these prosnotications. We can't possibly know the future. Hortensis Aug 2020 #13
Sadly accurate Loge23 Aug 2020 #15

brush

(53,721 posts)
1. It's what we get for electing an idiot who went bankrupt 7 times running casinos.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 01:51 PM
Aug 2020

Last edited Thu Aug 6, 2020, 02:27 PM - Edit history (1)

This is a must read. Here's a little more of it:

These politically motivated remarks may be easy to dismiss. But Americans have not done themselves any favors. Their political process made possible the ascendancy to the highest office in the land a national disgrace, a demagogue as morally and ethically compromised as a person can be. As a British writer quipped, “there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid”.

The American president lives to cultivate resentments, demonize his opponents, validate hatred. His main tool of governance is the lie; as of July 9th, 2020, the documented tally of his distortions and false statements numbered 20,055. If America’s first president, George Washington, famously could not tell a lie, the current one can’t recognize the truth. Inverting the words and sentiments of Abraham Lincoln, this dark troll of a man celebrates malice for all, and charity for none.

BComplex

(8,015 posts)
3. Our election system is broken (gerrymandered and hackable). Our medical system is broken.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 02:03 PM
Aug 2020

Our education system is broken. All this after years of republican rule and a whole shit load of fox propaganda and hate radio.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
2. Americans are not so much Democrats as
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 01:58 PM
Aug 2020

we are Capitalists. How the two got confused for each other is quite evident in our American history if we bother to look.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
4. To counter...
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 02:28 PM
Aug 2020

To counter the diabolic notions of Predator Grump and his fantasy machine, this makes an interesting point about prognostications of false hope concerning a vaccine. Bromides and blathering solve nothing, they only placate the people who are prone to taking that stuff seriously. Fear and being overwhelmed can make people vulnerable to authority figures, one way or another.

We must check our fear and worry factors and get them in line.

Our interventions to date have largely focused on mitigating the rate of spread, flattening the curve of morbidity. There is no treatment at hand, and no certainty of a vaccine on the near horizon. The fastest vaccine ever developed was for mumps. It took four years. COVID-19 killed 100,000 Americans in four months. There is some evidence that natural infection may not imply immunity, leaving some to question how effective a vaccine will be, even assuming one can be found. And it must be safe. If the global population is to be immunized, lethal complications in just one person in a thousand would imply the death of millions.
5. Trump Supporters Thought 2016 Was A Rebirth of American Prosperity.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 03:04 PM
Aug 2020

In the 90s and even early 2000s, Americans celebrated what we thought was America’s never-ending dominance of the world, with a Capitalist economy that was unstoppable. In reality, 2008 was a debilitating heart attack, and 2016 was the last gasp of a failing, late-stage Capitalist country whose economy is maintained by eating its own.

We are an increasingly hollow carcass that was eaten from the inside. Light is starting to poke through, and the myth of American Exceptionalism and unity is dead.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
17. I agree
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 02:02 PM
Aug 2020

Was just discussing this yesterday. For those of us who were alive then, Reagan's election was every bit infuriating to us then as the 2016 election was. How could America elect this guy?! Many of us saw how American's became enamored to image, not substance.
We ignore the fact the the President is hired by us to manage our national affairs. Neither Reagan nor this current idiot have any clue how to manage anything, other than their own self-promotion.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
8. The ONLY STATUE needed anywhere in America is P.T. Barnum. He exemplifies the underlying basis of
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 03:55 PM
Aug 2020

all things in America.
Put him in every town square, and in the rotunda of the Capitol Building in Washington.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
9. Except for the human suffering that will come with it...
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 03:59 PM
Aug 2020

... I really have no problems with the US being taken down a notch or two. This "USA! USA! USA!" stuff and "American exceptionalism" nonsense has always irked me. Almost as much as Lee Greenwood does.

Thekaspervote

(32,682 posts)
10. It signals the end of one American era. We can make it better and stronger
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 04:27 PM
Aug 2020

To me, the article is as if we will never be better....I disagree

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Com'on. Where's your despair, your dystopian weltschmerz?
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 05:11 PM
Aug 2020

I'm too old to change, too experienced not to agree with you. But the "spiritus mundi" is determined despair, surrender to dystopia, for some the satisfaction of believing we're already "proven" a failed state. Get with it or be "square."

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.


As I recall, this foretold the coming round of Yeats' "rough beast" in much of Europe and elsewhere that fell to disastrous far left and far right populist revolutions; but a majority of those committed to voting in our nation, from their knees in the mud of the Great Depression, said a big no anyway and what they created was our period of greatest wellbeing to date. What can I say? I'm incorrigible.

volstork

(5,398 posts)
11. This is the heart of the problem:
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 04:28 PM
Aug 2020
"The American cult of the individual denies not just community but the very idea of society. No one owes anything to anyone. All must be prepared to fight for everything: education, shelter, food, medical care. What every prosperous and successful democracy deems to be fundamental rights — universal health care, equal access to quality public education, a social safety net for the weak, elderly, and infirmed — America dismisses as socialist indulgences, as if so many signs of weakness."


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Lots of these prosnotications. We can't possibly know the future.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 04:37 PM
Aug 2020

We do know that power was extremely, unfortunately unbalanced, with much of the world far too dependent on us for their security. The American Century.

This does seem a very bad time for us to lose much of our power to lead, of course. We're definitely having an adjustment, but we have more than enough overweening preeminence to give some up and remain the world's single wealthiest and technologically advanced nation. If we throw off this grave danger of a RW authoritarian takeover, restore sane government, and recommit to our alliances, putting Russia back in its box in the process, and the enormous problems of climate change in other nations don't destroy us with them, it would be hard to keep it from happening.

Yes, China's coming up, but we've deliberately helped that because most of it was good for us, including helping the planet avoid the enormous threat of China's explosive "carbon footprint" growth. In any case, China has a bunch of enormous problems of its own. And so do many other areas of the planet. Trying to keep the rest of the planet from blowing up would be our biggest problem in our new American century. Many among the billions in hotter climate areas, including in China, are already being forced to permanent abandon their homelands and migrate to wherever they can, and that's barely begun.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
15. Sadly accurate
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 04:51 PM
Aug 2020

Last edited Fri Aug 7, 2020, 02:04 PM - Edit history (1)

This is tremendous essay and should be read by all Americans.
We let this happen. We're the ones responsible for allowing this to continue, up to the point of giving the GOP the Senate, House, and White House.
And yes, it is the GOP at fault here. They're the ones who overstocked the military at the expense of the social life net. They're the ones who encouraged the NRA to over supply the country with firearms. They're the ones who led the destruction of the labor unions. They're the ones who cloaked their evil deeds in the flag. But we're all the ones who let it happen.
The comments after the article on the Rolling Stone site were all we need to see that this cancer is fatal. The usual bunch from the Freedumb crowd are firing away as if they either didn't read the piece or are incapable of understanding it.
This will not get better. Yes, we will hopefully elect Joe Biden to the White House and the latest clean-up on Aisle 244. This will go on for awhile, maybe even two terms, and then another moron wrapped in the flag will ascend, or descend an escalator somewhere - a "populist" running on the deficit that the GOP has traditionally ballooned as they eagerly destroy every bit of the America that once stood as an example of functional democracy, but in reality never was.
We haven't fought a war to protect our freedom in over 75 years. In that time, trillions and trillions of our wealth has been spent to "maintain" a bloated, useless, and obsolete military establishment. We have no universal health care, our public schools have been eroded to the point where the underpaid teachers have to supply the tools they need to teach - like in a third-world country, and our once envied infrastructure is collapsing from years of neglect and mismanagement. As the article notes, a few uber wealthy individuals now hoard most the wealth. The rest of us contribute to charities and crowd sourcing sites to try to and help those who we know about that have fallen through the torn social fabric of our country.
There's no fixing this. We'll live through it, die, and hopefully won't see the day that all of us who know about what the country could have been have been dreading. But come it will.

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