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FRI MAR 01, 2013 AT 05:51 PM PST
omigod! "they" actually WENT there!
byedrie
kron4 news (san francisco) tonite announced when president obama signed the sequester into existence... then they actually discussed what was going on - and ... to my shock and amazement, after some decent explanation, the anchor stated that neither the president or congress was going to change this until the people started to react.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/03/01/1190925/-omigod-they-actually-WENT-there
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Hence the invention of the tea party, and their grossly disproportionate media coverage.
daybranch
(1,309 posts)very proportionate to amount of conservative owned media. Just disproportionate to their numbers.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)When a group has a super PAC bankrolling them, they can get lots of air time for fakery.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Feels like you're swimming up stream.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)to the suicidal swim of genetically programmed salmon. (snark)
The Shock Doctrine, state by state. Snyder, Scott, Walker, & the rest. Even if they get voted out, how long to reverse the damage? How long to un-privatize something?
I can hardly stand to read this shit anymore.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)tblue37
(64,979 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)"I can hire 1/2 of working people to kill the other 1/2" .. the spirit of Jay
Gould is alive and well in today's Amerika.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)that help people have no idea what this country would look like without it. I hear them bitch about one "bum" hanging out around a shopping center. They had better watch what they wish for.
Think of the country without any safety nets. How do you protect yourself from all the crime that would be a necessity for some people to feed their families. Are you willing to see hundreds of people sleeping on the streets where you walk to get to work? Do you want that many desparate people panhandling at every corner? Are you ready to walk past starving children in the streets?
I do not want to live in that country.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)so it looks like they are really starting to run the show, doesn't it?
Sam
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)but all these numb-nuts teabaggers who are just ordinary people will. They will not have mansions in some exclusive areas. They will not have bodyguards or drivers or jets. They will have to be out in the new world that they think they want.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Reagan and the Heritage Foundation ...a propaganda machine for the Koch's and others of their ilk. When they talk about free market enterprise they speak for themselves ...and not us little people.
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)They do not know the ramifications of what they wish for. Thousands, hundreds-of-thousands, even millions in the street. No home, no food, no healthcare, no nothing.
This is why the New Deal was created...to advert human suffering like this. Not only is allowing such suffering immoral, but weakens all aspects of our society.
Dryvinwhileblind
(153 posts)oldbanjo
(690 posts)50 people isn't scary but three or four is, none of them will get any sleep knowing there might be a nut case outside their house at night.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)ratings, fuck the poor and who cares, tune in. Meanwhile people suffer.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)of us who predicted that this was just a ploy to attack the Social Safety and that no Democrat should participate in it, we were told 'he was just playing chess' that the 'Republicans will never let this happen'.
So sick of the outrage AFTER the fact, every. single. time. Too late now, isn't it? The outrage we tried to express was dismissed.
Maybe now we can start demonstrating the appropriate outrage the MINUTE THEY START talking about things like, eg 'The Chained CPI'??? Maybe we could stop the excuses and react as we should without accepting ANY excuse for these actions for once. And maybe we would find out that when the people refuse to be placated we actually COULD stop them??
I hope no one dares to tell me any stories about 'strategy' and 'chess' the next time I express MY outrage over the next scam that is coming our way. This whole thing was a scam from the beginning, and if Democrats didn't see it, they do not deserve to be in office. If they did and went along with it anyhow, they do not deserve to be in office or to call themselves Democrats.
As if this is any surprise to anyone with a brain cell functioning. It's not.
Autumn
(44,750 posts)This has been the biggest farce I have ever seen. Very good rant and I agree with everything you said.
iemitsu
(3,888 posts)our Democratic President has our backs, even when he is saying that he doesn't.
Obama is the one who told us in 2008 that if we wanted progressive legislation we would have to make noise, have to insist that he take the high road. If we don't express our discontent then we appear as if we are content.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)the DHS coordinates a national effort to break our heads. No good options, but you're both right, and we can't just sit down and shut up about it, or there's guaranteed to be more of the same.
indepat
(20,899 posts)assaulting, pepper-spraying, and arresting many of the left-wing Occupy Wall Street protesters as they, with few exceptions, demonstrated peacefully against Wall Street fraud, abuse, and greed within their constitutional rights. Our corporatist government demonstrated such impertinence aimed at the masters of the known world will not be tolerated whereas a multitude of domestic right-wing extremists go about brandishing their assault weapons and stochastic terrorists of their ilk spew hatred, sedition, and rebellion occasionally prodding some faithful true-believing nut to act out his hatred. Such is life in a right-wing soused society.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)I could have written your post myself.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Dryvinwhileblind
(153 posts)iemitsu
(3,888 posts)And who wants their head broken? Or their spirit? Or reputation?
No good options is right.
Breaking people is the method by which we are domesticated. Those who can't be broken are problematic so we marginalize or imprison them. And those, who become too docile too subservient, have lost the spark that makes one human. So, to survive, we have to do both, stand up and shout and sit down and shut up. Our heads get broken either way.
The world is what we make it. Ideas shared by many have great impact while ideas kept to ourselves have no chance of shaping things.
indepat
(20,899 posts)iemitsu
(3,888 posts)I appreciate your vocabulary and keen insight.
Ok, I was called on that one. The wife says, you're right about the panache, and I'm in denial.
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)And I know you're one of those who heard it, and got it. And now we're here.
Tansy_Gold
(17,815 posts)The day Obama announced his transitional "economic" team, oh, about 24 November 2008.
Hello! Hello!
And some of us have been cursed and reviled and accused of goddess only knows what, we're trolls and concern trolls and secret republicans and haters and, oh, honey, the list goes on and on and on.
It's like the Pied Piper, only this one was already paid his guilders long before he charmed all the rats. That was just for show, anyway; the rats were in on it from the beginning. What he and his masters really wanted all along were the children, the future, the hopes and dreams and aspirations, the blood, sweat, and soul of what someone once dreamed "America" could be.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)I find that the left and progressives are definitely not republican and or conservative but they certainly are at the least Dem but more than that they are, to put it simply followers of FDR. I hate corporations ...I hate their disgusting immoral sociopath CEO's. They are animals without a conscience for their fellow human being. Their greedy ways and controls are so thoroughly entrenched that no amount of voting will ever stop them now. To think that the Dems play no part in this is ignorant and blind. Thus we have those that blindly follow Obama and continually make excuses for him. They fawn over the family like American Idol fans. I have to admit though that his lies are some of the nicest ones I have heard from our government. He is an eloquent speaker and that has taken him a long long way but he is owned just like the repukes are. Next up will be the war monger and hawk ...Clinton. I wish Dems would wake the hell up and slide over to the lefty progressive side. This place used to partner with the left and progressives. We were accepted and welcome here years ago but I feel that is waning severely. We need someone who is really on our side who will fight for us and not cave to corporations. We need jobs for everyone not austerity. If we are going to go into austerity then they should have let the banksters fail ...that would have been the real free market penalty for their greedy thieving schemes. We need another FDR ...now!
kath
(10,565 posts)He just ran as one.
Frikkin' Trojan Horse.
MessiahRp
(5,405 posts)And the apologists who come and swarm us, calling us concern trolls and such, they're almost always fucking wrong. It's sickening that they seem to have the numbers and load up here so they control juries and can come on here and slander all of us for our "purity" and being "unrealistic"...
I've said it once, I'll say it a million times: Liberals are ALWAYS right. Right about the need for social programs, right about wars and the nefarious reasons behind them, right about domestic spying (wiretapping AND using Drones), right about the police state in general, right about the schemes the rich are attempting to pull to destroy us all and right in calling out Obama's complicity in such.
The Third Way/DLC/New Democrat/Centrists are always wrong. They're Republicans pretending to be Democrats. And they have overloaded this board with a level of propagandizing that equals that of far right wingers.
Thank you for your post.
DearHeart
(692 posts)They've moved our party so far to the right and we Liberals, in their eyes, have become a bunch of nutjobs with our hair on fire!
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)2naSalit
(86,048 posts)would be the most efficient way to describe these bastards.
SleeplessinSoCal
(8,994 posts)the dominoes are in free fall.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)remains a very profitable business venture. I've been waiting for Ms. Maddow to opine.
JHB
(37,128 posts)...using their own resources, not one of the big networks using Washington-based resources.
It 's one of the reasons why the deregulation of media ownership (and subsequent consolidation and concentration of that ownership) needs to be reversed.
One nitpick, though: the anchor there is the woman. Mr. Yaki, who made the point we're discussing here, is a political analyst. The anchor refers to him as "our political analyst", so my best guess is he is a local guy with a contract with the station to be an on-air expert commentator in the field.
GEOpix
(65 posts)The message is getting out there more and more. See today's Huff Post article by Robert Reich "The sequester and the Tea Party Plot." It spells it out quite nicely.
senseandsensibility
(16,713 posts)as stated above. He is clearly identified as the station's political analyst. This station is my local station, and the woman anchor is very familiar to me. I like her, but knew that she would not say that.
CrispyQ
(36,225 posts)Money in politics is the root of all evil.
~kick.
on edit:
"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery..."
~Zappa
mucifer
(23,373 posts)truedelphi
(32,324 posts)I'll have to listen to the whole audio and vid of this; it seems rather extraordinary to me. They are so into the Established Ways, with even sports announcers saying "Oh my gawds, NOES, we all might be facing huge tax hikes!!!" (And they seem to think that the One Percent is All of us!)
Recced and thank you!
I wasn't ready for that!
ThomThom
(1,486 posts)don't think they can get it through in this climate so on with the sequester than come back later and put back military spending. Dems will have to go along or be against the military. Dems could do the same only for domestic programs but thugs won't care everyone already knows they are against that stuff.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)they have like minded accomplices in the Democratic Party as well.
humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)Look a Repub president could never change the social safety nets because it is politically impossible to do from the side that cares more about the businesses and rich than it does about ordinary citizens however, my fear is that Obama will actually be talked into privitization of the social safety net programs..... Look Healthcare reform the way it was implemented is a republicans we dream but they but on aires like they hate it because they don't want Obama to get any credit for it, I mean give me a break what Democrat would ever propose mandating under penalty of fine that a person purchase an insurance plan from an insurance company.... that has never been our party's position until it was submitted and approved by Democrats on a promise that better things like Universal healthcare coverage would be happening in the future, so you see my point is that only Obama can do the unthinkable and again my fear is that all this politics right now is just to grease us up in preparation for the big Kahuna when Medicare and Social Security are destroyed.....
I may be wrong and I hope I am but it is my fear.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)upi402
(16,854 posts)chervilant
(8,267 posts)they still act like we're too stoopid to get what they're doing!
drynberg
(1,648 posts)This sequestration complete with grins and yawns from RWers in DC is bringing even more pain to those hurting already and by golly, this may be the fat ugly straw that mobilizes millions to create a People's Lobby to come to senses in DC. The Congress will generally blow off these millions and hell will be paid in November of 2014 when a huge blue tide washes into the D of C. Oh, it's a coming, shame is many will suffer in the next two years. But maybe this "straw" will make the wheels turn as the Light is Shining and the Heat is a-coming.