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applegrove

(118,622 posts)
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:20 AM Mar 2013

Just found out the manager at a place I like to eat at is getting fired because he has bad teeth.

He's got a good attitude about it and has made plans for a new career. I used to pet sit for a living and gave him all the advice I had. But what other advice can I give him? Does anyone know canadian labour law?

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Just found out the manager at a place I like to eat at is getting fired because he has bad teeth. (Original Post) applegrove Mar 2013 OP
What is wrong with his teeth? siligut Mar 2013 #1
He never smiles ) El Shaman Mar 2013 #2
I guessing he can't afford to have his teeth done and they are going black in spots. applegrove Mar 2013 #3
Your fondness of him tells me he is a good egg siligut Mar 2013 #6
That is true. Though I suspect it is too big an issue for a student to take care of. But applegrove Mar 2013 #16
It's not illegal in the U.S. You can be fired for any reason... Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #11
have they offered to pay to fix whatever issue he might have with his teeth ? JI7 Mar 2013 #4
Obviously not. I don't have the money to give him anything but a big tip, which I did. applegrove Mar 2013 #5
doesn't surprise me for a second 4 t 4 Mar 2013 #8
+100 lunasun Mar 2013 #10
I'm sorry Control-Z Mar 2013 #9
FAIL - pet insurance exists - there are several companies. kestrel91316 Mar 2013 #21
I thought Canada had universal dental coverage, as part of its national health coverage. No? SunSeeker Mar 2013 #7
No we don't have Universal Dental but you can't fire someone for a health condition that does not Monk06 Mar 2013 #12
Wow. Canada needs to work on that (of course, we've got no room to talk). SunSeeker Mar 2013 #14
He's been at the restaurant longer than the owner has owned it. So his teeth may have gotten bad in applegrove Mar 2013 #17
No. Health is done provincially and dental is not included in Ontario. I'm hoping that applegrove Mar 2013 #13
What provinces cover dental? Maybe he can move...B.C. is awful pretty. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #15
As far as I know laundry_queen Mar 2013 #20
There are relatively inexpensive snap-ons for the top teeth... Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #18
I'll mention that to him. applegrove Mar 2013 #19

siligut

(12,272 posts)
1. What is wrong with his teeth?
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:27 AM
Mar 2013

Sorry, this seems very strange. If it is an appearance thing, well I am pretty sure that is illegal, at least in the US it is. If it has to do with the fact that he needs work done and it will keep him out of work, well that doesn't seem legal either.

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
3. I guessing he can't afford to have his teeth done and they are going black in spots.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:30 AM
Mar 2013

I didn't want to violate his space in what must be a touchy subject. I asked if he was going to see a lawyer and he said he was going to see a social worker first. He's a really good egg.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
6. Your fondness of him tells me he is a good egg
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:38 AM
Mar 2013

So his teeth have changed since he was hired and now he isn't considered presentable? I understand you didn't want to pry. This is just sad. Universities here need people for the dentistry students to train on, maybe you could look into that for him there?

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
16. That is true. Though I suspect it is too big an issue for a student to take care of. But
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:59 AM
Mar 2013

I live around the corner from a place that specializes in treating low income people. I'll stop by there and get some literature. See if they have any ideas.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
11. It's not illegal in the U.S. You can be fired for any reason...
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:49 AM
Mar 2013

that is not in the federal anti-discrimination statutes (age, race, ethnicity, etc.).

In the restaurant business, when you're dealing with the public, a healthy appearance is mandatory, I would say. Bad teeth for a restaurant worker says, "this is what the food here does to your teeth!"

A model can be fired for getting too fat. I can be fired for not dressing nicely enough for a professional office. Hey, they can walk in one day and just fire me for no reason at all. It's legal. Unless I'm in a union, which I'm not.

4 t 4

(2,407 posts)
8. doesn't surprise me for a second
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:42 AM
Mar 2013

if he doesn't perfect white chick let teeth , he's a looser. Welcome to the year two thousand and thirteen, it's a blast!!!

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
9. I'm sorry
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:44 AM
Mar 2013

But . That is too funny. Who pays for serious dental needs? Insurance doesn't cover them, even for a ridiculous hefty price. Dentists and Veterinarians - they charge whatever they want, for whatever they say you need, knowing there is no insurance company that will cover it. Cha-ching!!

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
21. FAIL - pet insurance exists - there are several companies.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 01:47 AM
Mar 2013

People just don't want to have to pay premiums, so they don't get insurance.

AND - I can't charge whatever I want. I have to keep fees low to avoid losing even MORE clients than the economy has taken.

You must think vets are rich. We aren't. We are the lowest paid of all the medical professions.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
7. I thought Canada had universal dental coverage, as part of its national health coverage. No?
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:38 AM
Mar 2013

He needs to get his teeth fixed, even if he no longer wants a job with the public. Bad teeth can kill you; the constant inflamation greatly increases your chance of a heart attack. Plus, it is exremely painful. Why live like that? I can't believe Canada does not have universal dental coverage as part of its universal health coverage.


Monk06

(7,675 posts)
12. No we don't have Universal Dental but you can't fire someone for a health condition that does not
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:50 AM
Mar 2013

their job performance. Besides they hired him with his bad teeth so they are just using that as an excuse.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
14. Wow. Canada needs to work on that (of course, we've got no room to talk).
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:57 AM
Mar 2013

Yes, I agree that if his condition is no different than when they hired him, I can't imagine what ground they have for firing him. But maybe his teeth have gotten worse. Has any customer complained about his breath? Rotting teeth and gingivitis can have a horrid rotten odor. But regardless, what kind of heartless jerk would fire a man for not fixing teeth he can't afford to fix?!

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
17. He's been at the restaurant longer than the owner has owned it. So his teeth may have gotten bad in
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 01:00 AM
Mar 2013

last 5 years.

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
13. No. Health is done provincially and dental is not included in Ontario. I'm hoping that
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:56 AM
Mar 2013

the social worker will be able to direct him to a program. Perhaps a charity or a government program that would help.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
20. As far as I know
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 01:27 AM
Mar 2013

there isn't a province that covers dental. If you have an abscess, they will give you antibiotics for it in the ER, but you must see a dentist to get the tooth pulled.

We also don't have universal drug coverage. Most Canadians have to get supplemental insurance to cover meds, dental, eyewear and 'extras'. I totally disagree with it...as someone who has been uninsured before, my kids and I have suffered for it. Where I live, most people have coverage through their employers so dentists charge outrageous fees. WITH coverage (albeit mediocre coverage) I had to pay $250 for x-rays and a cleaning. Robbery, IMO. And it makes me feel for my American friends that have no insurance and what they must go through. At least if I get appendicitis tomorrow I won't lose my home.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
18. There are relatively inexpensive snap-ons for the top teeth...
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 01:09 AM
Mar 2013

ask him to look into it while he is exploring a permanent solution.

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