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Robb

(39,665 posts)
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 03:50 PM Mar 2013

Lawmakers Get (more) Violent Emails Over Gun Control

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Fields usually gets a few dozen emails in a typical weekend, she said. But a handful of the 3,000 she received, along with a letter, were so charged with profanity and references to violence that Denver police arrested the suspected author, and state troopers increased security for the lawmaker.

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"It is time for us to act in a better fashion," said Wyoming's Republican Senate president, Tony Ross.

Yes, it is. But good luck convincing your base of that.

The emails directed at Fields, a black lawmaker, last month contained racial slurs throughout. One directed to her and another lawmaker co-sponsoring gun legislation read, "hopefully somebody Gifords both of" you, apparently referring to the shooting in Arizona that wounded U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.

It was an unsigned letter with no return address that drew concerns about a serious threat. It listed Fields and her daughter with the comment, "Death to Both." The letter also exclaimed, "There Will Be Blood!"


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Lawmakers Get (more) Violent Emails Over Gun Control (Original Post) Robb Mar 2013 OP
Robb Hoops59 Mar 2013 #1
Another constituent comment from the link: freshwest Mar 2013 #2
The gunsels come out of the woodwork. longship Mar 2013 #3
I'm not sure that's the word you mean... Spider Jerusalem Mar 2013 #5
It's precisely the word I meant, but not the cultural reference you cited. longship Mar 2013 #6
Except it doesn't mean that in "The Maltese Falcon" Spider Jerusalem Mar 2013 #7
Okay, maybe you're correct. longship Mar 2013 #8
Completely Predictable Responses From Gun Obsessives. (nt) Paladin Mar 2013 #4
These gun nuts certainly aren't helping their case at all. Initech Mar 2013 #9
 

Hoops59

(27 posts)
1. Robb
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 04:12 PM
Mar 2013

Don't forget, the NRA is all about gun manufacture, profits. "We do not see mass killings as a tragedy, "we see it as a profit."

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
2. Another constituent comment from the link:
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 04:34 PM
Mar 2013
"There is this extremist element where it does feel dangerous to stand up," said Colorado state Sen. Jessie Ulibarri, a Democrat who will be voting on the bills Monday. Ulibarri received a letter from someone who said they hope the senator's daughter is raped. Ulibarri has a 2-year-old girl.

Pretty standard fare these days.

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. The gunsels come out of the woodwork.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 05:05 PM
Mar 2013

Astounding. Death threats from gun rights supporters. Kind of argues for more regulations.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
5. I'm not sure that's the word you mean...
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 05:49 PM
Mar 2013

[div class="excerpt"gunsel U.S. slang.

Also gonsil, gunshel, gun(t)zel.

(ad. Yiddish genzel, f. G. gänslein gosling, little goose.)

1.1 A (naïve) youth; a tramp's young companion, male lover; a homosexual youth.

1929, Dashiell Hammett, The Maltese Falcon: 'The boy’s eyes (…) ran over Spade’s body from shoulders to knees, (…) ¶ “Another thing,” Spade repeated, glaring at the boy: “Keep that gunsel away from me while you’re making up your mind. I’ll kill him."'
1931 G. Irwin Amer. Tramp & Underworld Slang 88 Gonsil, a young tramp, not yet taken in hand and bent to his will by an older man. A boy. A passive male homosexual, usually a youth or younger man. Also gunsel.

longship

(40,416 posts)
6. It's precisely the word I meant, but not the cultural reference you cited.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 06:11 PM
Mar 2013

Check out the Urban Dictionary.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gunsel

I know it from The Maltese Falcon where Sam Spade calls Wilmer a gunsel, a hood punk with a gun.

These people threatening lawmakers with death because of the lawmakers' position for gun regulations are nothing but gunsels. I know that's a bit of hyperbole, but that's how I feel they are acting.

I wasn't aware of the other definitions. Thank you for increasing my education and my vocabulary, both good things in these days.

longship

(40,416 posts)
8. Okay, maybe you're correct.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 06:42 PM
Mar 2013

However, I always assumed that it did mean something about guns, and in context one could easily make that mistake. According to the urban dictionary, apparently many people have.

I again thank you for correcting me as to its etymology. Another reason to love DU. There's always somebody who knows shit that you do not. Even something as arcane as the etymology of the word gunsel. And I even have a copy of the OED. My bad!

on edit: The supplement to the OED 1 lists the second definition of gunsel as "An informer, a criminal, a gunman." This was the defn I was using.

Your information makes Dashiel Hammett's use of the word in its context ambiguous. There is a kind of ambiguity about Wilmer and Fat Man's relationship. John Huston uses the same word in his film. Wow! Nice choice of words for Hammett. Not so, for me.

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