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Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:16 PM Mar 2013

Anyone familiar with where to file a complaint against a rural electrical coop? Besides at their

office?

My daughter keeps getting bills of $400 - $1000, she uses christmas tree lights for crying out loud! I replaced her hot water tank and dryer. They replaced the meter. They will not give her an itemized statement that includes amounts paid in. LIHEAP just paid them $400+ on a $375 bill a couple weeks ago and today she gets another bill for almost $1000!

This keeps happening and I can't find anywhere to file a complaint except through them. PUC doesn't, PA AG doesn't.

Please, if anyone has any ideas post them. I can't afford to keep paying these insane bills for her and she isn't making enough at her job.

Thanks!

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Anyone familiar with where to file a complaint against a rural electrical coop? Besides at their (Original Post) Mnemosyne Mar 2013 OP
I would try Sherman A1 Mar 2013 #1
Second that Warpy Mar 2013 #2
It has been a freaking nightmare. They threaten to cut her off with no electric company at all. I Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #6
Public Utilities Commission doesn't deal with rural electric coops. Going to call Kane's office Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #11
I kept getting outlandish bills - lynne Mar 2013 #3
New hot water heater, new dryer, nothing seems wrong. I'm hiring an electrician Monday a.m. Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #7
note to you & OP CountAllVotes Mar 2013 #26
Could someone be stealing electricity without her noticing? Lars39 Mar 2013 #4
Her neighbor is across the road, but a barn they have over there used to be with the land the house Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #8
I'd seriously recommend that if he/she doesn't find the answer, then hire another. Lars39 Mar 2013 #12
I will not rest until this is resolved, it's gotten beyond ridiculous. Thanks Lars! nt Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #14
I don't know about LIHEAP and what all they do Curmudgeoness Mar 2013 #5
Nasty people at the office insist must be bad appliances! It's ridiculous. The PUC doesn't deal Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #9
As a member of an REC your daughter is, technically, part owner of the coop MadHound Mar 2013 #10
I am about to have an attorney send a letter. It's just ridiculous and they won't help her. Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #13
If there is a general board meeting coming up soon, she should go MadHound Mar 2013 #15
My sister had gone there before and pretended to be my daughter, I am wondering if they are cya. nt Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #16
Very well could be. MadHound Mar 2013 #21
I'm not sure if meter is smart or not. I'm so damn mad will do whatever I can to find the answer. nt Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #24
Think they come under USDA. Downwinder Mar 2013 #17
Thank you, Downwinder! I will check there also. nt Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #18
Are they a member of NRECA : pkdu Mar 2013 #19
Thanks pkdu, I will check there too. nt Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #20
Dumb question: Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2013 #22
Good question. I will have her try it tomorrow. Thanks Hassin! nt Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #23
I would have her shut off all power consuming devices appliances lights etc. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2013 #25
Is the company actually reading the meter? procon Mar 2013 #27
The company has members read meter and charges $30 if they do. Their estimates have been outrageous. Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #28
Maybe her state Representative can help? Brigid Mar 2013 #29
I told her to call him Monday. Insane, isn't it. Just so frustrated. Maybe Enron took over coop? Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #30
I went through a similar thing (not as extreme though!) pa28 Mar 2013 #31
I'm having her do this, hopefully today. Something has to give. Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #32

Warpy

(111,252 posts)
2. Second that
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:22 PM
Mar 2013

and if the state doesn't have one, try a consumer complaint at the Attorney General's office.

Something is very wrong somewhere and they need to fix it.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
6. It has been a freaking nightmare. They threaten to cut her off with no electric company at all. I
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:47 PM
Mar 2013

cannot believe they can treat people this way.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
11. Public Utilities Commission doesn't deal with rural electric coops. Going to call Kane's office
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:58 PM
Mar 2013

Monday a.m. and an electrician. Just so ridiculous. They are rude when she tries to resolve it with their office. I am so frustrated.

Thanks!

lynne

(3,118 posts)
3. I kept getting outlandish bills -
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:23 PM
Mar 2013

- and nothing I did helped. Checked appliances, etc. This went on for 4 months and each month it was getting higher. Finally checked the actual plumbing under the house and there was a pinhole leak in the line going from the hot water heater and I was leaking hot water 24/7. Got that fixed, bill was cut in half.

Can't speak about her not being able to get an itemized bill as I can pull that down online with my company. But I'd keep looking for any reason that may cause such horrific bills. Might be something she's not checked out yet.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
7. New hot water heater, new dryer, nothing seems wrong. I'm hiring an electrician Monday a.m.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:50 PM
Mar 2013

She can't get an online bill to check, they keep telling her she already does! It's insane!

Glad you found your problem!

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
26. note to you & OP
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 09:09 PM
Mar 2013

If you find out what the problem is and have it fixed, often the company involved will give you a credit for excess usage if you show them a receipt showing you had things fixed and/or replaced to solve the problem.

I never knew this until a plumber I recently hired told me! Better late than never eh?

I hope this helps!



Lars39

(26,109 posts)
4. Could someone be stealing electricity without her noticing?
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:28 PM
Mar 2013

Like plugging in an extension cord at her place outside and running it to theirs to heat their house, etc?

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
8. Her neighbor is across the road, but a barn they have over there used to be with the land the house
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:53 PM
Mar 2013

is on. I am baffled, am going to hire an electrician Monday a.m.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
12. I'd seriously recommend that if he/she doesn't find the answer, then hire another.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 08:05 PM
Mar 2013

Experience and expertise can vary widely in some places, so what one can't find, another might. Hope you find an answer first go around.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
5. I don't know about LIHEAP and what all they do
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:33 PM
Mar 2013

but would they be able to help find where to go? Or would your state rep's office have answers as to where you can go for help.

If I remember correctly, there was some program with the power companies where you could have someone come to your house and determine what you can do to cut bills. They were just there to make suggestions, not sell products or services. Ask the coop if they have any such program to help her.

Those monthly bills seems so outrageous that I cannot believe someone doesn't think there is a problem.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
9. Nasty people at the office insist must be bad appliances! It's ridiculous. The PUC doesn't deal
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:56 PM
Mar 2013

with rural coops.

I'm getting an electrician and calling Kane's office first thing Monday.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
10. As a member of an REC your daughter is, technically, part owner of the coop
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:57 PM
Mar 2013

As such, she should, by law, have access to all REC records, including her bill. Tell her to go into the REC office and be forceful about the matter, demand to see her records, quote the bylaws, etc. If that fails, a note from a lawyer should do the trick.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
13. I am about to have an attorney send a letter. It's just ridiculous and they won't help her.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 08:15 PM
Mar 2013

She's been there and they always say nothing is available, comp down, etc... Something smells very bad to me.

Thanks!

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
15. If there is a general board meeting coming up soon, she should go
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 08:17 PM
Mar 2013

And demand answers in a public forum. The REC hates when they get called out in front of the public.

She has a right to those records.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
21. Very well could be.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 08:40 PM
Mar 2013

There is a national REC board of some sort that she could report this to, but in the meantime, since all else has failed, get that attorney to write a sternly worded letter. It is amazing how people will start jumping when an attorney writes them. Good luck.

On edit, if they've put in one of those new smart meters, it could very well be the problem right there.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
25. I would have her shut off all power consuming devices appliances lights etc.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 08:57 PM
Mar 2013

Check for meter movement.

Unplug devices if still movement

If meter still moves start shutting off individual breakers or fuses.

The goal is to isolate the draw.

procon

(15,805 posts)
27. Is the company actually reading the meter?
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 09:23 PM
Mar 2013

Years ago we discovered our rural provider was using billing software to "guestimate" the usage based of prior readings. They stopped reading meters to "cut costs".

If your company refuses to supply actual meter readings that show your usage, I'd suspect they are trying to cover up something on their end.

Hope you get it resolved.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
28. The company has members read meter and charges $30 if they do. Their estimates have been outrageous.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 09:44 PM
Mar 2013

I'm sure daughter is not diligent reading and reporting the meter reading, but it has gone beyond ridiculous.

Thanks procon!

pa28

(6,145 posts)
31. I went through a similar thing (not as extreme though!)
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 10:05 PM
Mar 2013

In the end they recommended shutting off or unplugging every appliance in the entire house. Once I verified the meter was not moving I had a baseline and could turn things on again one by one, hopefully finding the culprit. In my case it turned out to be a floor heating system.

If she has not tried this approach yet it might be worth a crack. Good luck.

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