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xchrom

(108,903 posts) Sun Mar 3, 2013, 10:19 AM Mar 2013

The US Navy Is Finally Moving Ships Back To The Philippines To Counter China —

http://www.businessinsider.com/uss-guardian-foundering-tubbataha-reef-2013-3

The U.S. Navy has recently begun moving ships to Asia to address the growing tension between China and Japan and other Asian countries.

As the Navy began this redeployment last year, most senior commanders were presumably eager to return to a port in the Philippines called Subic Bay.

The Navy's 7th Fleet had called Subic Bay home for decades before and after World War II. But after an unfortunate incident in 1991, the Philippines kicked the Navy out. The parting was so tense that even by October 2012, the Philippines was still demurely but firmly saying: "The US will not return to the bases they gave up in 1991."

The Philippines is still saying publicly that the U.S. can't reclaim its old bases — but thanks to China's increasing might, the Philippines is gradually welcoming the Navy back.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/uss-guardian-foundering-tubbataha-reef-2013-3#ixzz2MUDib0kf

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The US Navy Is Finally Moving Ships Back To The Philippines To Counter China — (Original Post) xchrom Mar 2013 OP

Why? hedgehog Mar 2013 #1

A Majority of the people Overwhelmingly want the US Navy back FreakinDJ Mar 2013 #2

The Philippine government threw us out in 1991....it wasn't our choice to close those bases... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #3

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)

1. Why?

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 11:25 AM

Mar 2013

Instead of preparing to fight China over undersea oil, why not put the money into renewables?

For that matter, given that oil is fungible, who the hell cares who gets it out of the ground?

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)

2. A Majority of the people Overwhelmingly want the US Navy back

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 11:32 AM

Mar 2013

JOBS JOBS JOBS

That country has never recovered from the US closing their bases

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)

3. The Philippine government threw us out in 1991....it wasn't our choice to close those bases...

Reply to FreakinDJ (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 11:48 AM

Mar 2013

In 1991, the Treaty of Friendship, Peace and Cooperation between the United States and the Republic of the Philippines would have extended the lease of the American bases in the Philippines. But, on September 13, 1991, the Philippine Senate rejected the ratification of this treaty, citing a number of reasons for the rejection. This was a devastating blow to the Aquino administration, who were strongly pro-treaty and even called for a referendum by the Filipino people; a move that was declared unconstitutional.

On November 24, 1992, the American Flag was lowered in Subic Bay for the last time. This withdrawal marked the first time since the 16th century that no foreign military forces were present in the Philippines.

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