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Tony_FLADEM

(3,023 posts)
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 11:19 AM Mar 2013

Second-grader suspended for having breakfast pastry shaped like a gun

Yet another student has been suspended for having something that represents a gun, but isn’t actually anything like a real gun.

This time, it was a breakfast pastry.

Josh Welch, a second-grader at Park Elementary School in Baltimore, Maryland, was suspended for two days because his teacher thought he shaped the strawberry, pre-baked toaster pastry into something resembling a gun. WBFF, the FOX affiliate in Baltimore, broke the story.

Welch, an arty kid who has reportedly been diagnosed with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, said his goal was to turn it into a mountain, but that didn’t really materialize, reports Fox News.

“It was already a rectangle. I just kept on biting it and biting it and tore off the top of it and kind of looked like a gun,” he said.

“But it wasn’t,” the seven-year-old astutely added.

The boy’s teacher was not happy with his creation.

“She was pretty mad, and I think I was in big trouble,” Welch told the FOX affiliate.

According to the boy’s father, school officials say Welch also said “Bang, bang” while holding the breakfast pastry.

School officials sent home a letter saying, in part: “One of our students used food to make inappropriate gestures.”

Beyond the letter, school officials offered no further comment on the incident, citing privacy concerns.

“They said they had to suspend Josh for two days, because he used his breakfast pastry and fashioned it as a gun,” the elder Welch told WBFF.

http://news.yahoo.com/second-grader-suspended-having-breakfast-pastry-shaped-gun-205636619.html

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Second-grader suspended for having breakfast pastry shaped like a gun (Original Post) Tony_FLADEM Mar 2013 OP
Father: "It's a pastry, you know." NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #1
But someone WAS hurt. RC Mar 2013 #3
I want to believe that 'zero tolerance policies' are as much to blame as anything. HereSince1628 Mar 2013 #8
That belt BS started in the late 50's RC Mar 2013 #9
Why were not the "school officials" Flora Mar 2013 #2
I bet many here secretly think this is OK. n-t Logical Mar 2013 #4
"It's Idaho". krispos42 Mar 2013 #5
Oy...stuuupiiid, it hurts!!!! nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #6
Now now, someone will come along to tell you the following: The Straight Story Mar 2013 #7
And these people call themselves educators. rrneck Mar 2013 #10
Good move by the school district. They didn't draw the line at carrot sticks (look like petronius Mar 2013 #11
How to stop a bad kid with a pastry shaped like a gun? Bake Mar 2013 #12
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Father: "It's a pastry, you know."
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 11:32 AM
Mar 2013
“They said they had to suspend Josh for two days, because he used his breakfast pastry and fashioned it as a gun,” the elder Welch told WBFF.

The boy’s father described the events leading up to his son’s suspension as “insanity.”

No one was hurt during the incident, he noted.

“It’s a pastry, you know,” he said.
 

RC

(25,592 posts)
3. But someone WAS hurt.
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 12:18 PM
Mar 2013

The son, by the stupidity visited on him by teacher.
, now you have to pay attention to the way you eat a pastry or sandwich?

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
8. I want to believe that 'zero tolerance policies' are as much to blame as anything.
Reply to RC (Reply #3)
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 12:35 PM
Mar 2013

I want to believe that's also what is behind forcing a student to strip out of a t-shirt with pics of guns on it.

The public cries for institutional accountability and faced with the possibility of devastating liability the institutions leap toward these things...with the result predictably being the death of common sense.

Back in the mid 1960's I was suspended from jr high school for 2 days for not wearing a belt. All pants with belt-loops had to be filled with belts and the punishment for not meeting that was mandated in the dress code.

Half a century later, the only threat I can see from being belt-less remains that any disrespect to the authority of those who wrote the stupid dress code was intolerable. Rules no matter how stupid they are must be respected or the rulemakers look stupid for having written stupid rules. In the minds of the rule makers, lack of respect for rule-makers puts the foundations of civilization at risk.






 

RC

(25,592 posts)
9. That belt BS started in the late 50's
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 12:46 PM
Mar 2013

Some of the kids just cut the belt loops off their jeans. Problem solved.
I couldn't. I needed the belt to hold my pants up.
Another major problem was rolled up T-shirt sleeves. Oh, the horror.

(I Graduated in 1962. Go Spuds)

Flora

(126 posts)
2. Why were not the "school officials"
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 12:17 PM
Mar 2013

suspended for giving this ADHD student a sugary, non-nutritional Pop Tart for breakfast?

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
7. Now now, someone will come along to tell you the following:
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 12:22 PM
Mar 2013

"This was also mentioned on fox news and other sites!!!"

Therefore, please ignore this story as it never really happened and even if it did rw'ers are talking about it too so we cannot.

I also posted this story yesterday, but then remembered the one about the guns on the shirt I posted.

We need to to be good little kids and only post stories that cannot be found on other news outlets (fox/etc) because once they hit there then we are just being nra shills and such.

BTW - screw the idiots at the schools. We are teaching people to live in constant fear so they are easier to control, just like religions have for centuries.

Guns are the new demons and the only ones we want to have them are the preachers (govt).

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
10. And these people call themselves educators.
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 12:53 PM
Mar 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacrum
Postmodernist French social theorist Jean Baudrillard argues that a simulacrum is not a copy of the real, but becomes truth in its own right: the hyperreal. Where Plato saw two steps of reproduction — faithful and intentionally distorted (simulacrum) — Baudrillard sees four: (1) basic reflection of reality, (2) perversion of reality; (3) pretence of reality (where there is no model); and (4) simulacrum, which "bears no relation to any reality whatsoever"


And if that seems esoteric...



The image is from The Matrix.

petronius

(26,598 posts)
11. Good move by the school district. They didn't draw the line at carrot sticks (look like
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 12:58 PM
Mar 2013

daggers) and it escalated to firearms. If they don't take a firm stand now some kid might realize that apples look like hand grenades - and then people might really get hurt.

(Caveat: if the "bang bang" and gesturing really happened, and if it was directed at other students, and if young Welch has a history of violent, threatening, or otherwise inappropriate behavior - then a response of some sort by the school would be appropriate...)

Bake

(21,977 posts)
12. How to stop a bad kid with a pastry shaped like a gun?
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 01:26 PM
Mar 2013

A good kid with a pastry shaped like a gun.

Or something like that.

Sigh.

Bake

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