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President George W. Bushs former chief strategist Matthew Down is slamming the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) for snubbing New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) while inviting former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R), who he asserts wasnt competent enough to keep a Fox News contract.
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CPAC, to me, has totally diminished its credibility as an organization, Dowd agreed. And you invite Sarah Palin, who wasnt competent enough to keep a Fox News contract? But shes invited to CPAC meeting?
Democratic strategist James Carville, however, welcomed the CPAC move as something that could help Democrats by elevating fringe elements in the Republican Party.
Any day that you have more Sarah Palin and less Chris Christie is a good day for James Carville, he quipped. Im all for it!
More here....
Wow, 'not competent enough for FOX'. That says it all now, doesn't it?
Squinch
(50,935 posts)of a lawn flamingo.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Squinch
(50,935 posts)riqster
(13,986 posts)They are classic art, bay-bay: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_flamingo
longship
(40,416 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)There's a dignified place for everything!
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)I am going to watch that X-Files episode on Netflix. It was a classic. Thanks.
lapfog_1
(29,199 posts)the list of items that are more intelligent than any collection of Faux noooz hosts / RNC mouthpieces is endless.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Blue4Texas
(437 posts)Which tells you who's running the show, not the GOP but FOX.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)I wouldn't be bragging about working for Bush. This man can't see incompetence as it's looking him in the face. It's just that Sarah got to say whatever she wanted, and Bush was told what to say, but he would screw it up. Ya know how that old saying goes in Tennessee. Fool me once.......
blueknight
(2,831 posts)to take their million dollars jesus, what kind of illiterate buffoons run fox?
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)While Chris Christie had zip.
I hate that woman but you can't dispute her numbers. CPAC is a political action committee. They can tally the numbers too.
While I think her brand of conservatism is going to split the Rethug party (and to a large degree it already has), and will ultimately lead to its demise, I'm guessing CPAC wants in on Sarah Palin's strategy for 2014.
spanone
(135,816 posts)Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)She was a nobody until he tapped her. I suspect he assumed she must be fairly smart to be a Governor and quite popular. But no one actually knew anything about her until after the pick. And he couldn't back down at that point -- though he should have.
This is a perfect example of the danger of propaganda and magical thinking. Once he picked her the machine went into action, spinning her as a brilliant "real" American. Her Couric implosion only forced them to double down.
No one has done more damage to the Fox brand of conservatism. The spin they were spewing about Palin forced everyone to take another look at the nonsense Fox was pushing. Limbaugh and Hannity and Levin were out there daily, carrying the water, destroying what little credibility they had left.
I actually felt a little sorry for Palin for a couple weeks. She was so clearly unprepared, and I don't blame her one bit for trying to cash in on the stupidity of conservatives. But then I saw who and what Palin was. Ignorance I can forgive, arrogant ignorance is another story. And Palin is not only ignorant, she is mean and unprincipled.
spanone
(135,816 posts)the vetting process alone for ms palin would have revealed her ignorance and mean, unprincipled spirit.
jmho
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)As I understand it, a couple staffers interviewed her and said she did well. They seemingly never did any research beyond this. They didn't research news stories about her, and they didn't even bother talking to other state officials.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/31/mccain-camp-didnt-search_n_122823.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/us/politics/02vetting.html?_r=3&pagewanted=2&
spanone
(135,816 posts)especially after they found out what they had on their hands...thanks for the links
another....http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2008/08/what-mccain-didnt-know-about-sarah-palin/307007/
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)He might easily have done better chucking a dart at the phone book
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)you should give it a try. There were the political guys (Schmidt, etc) and then the lawyers - both sides thought the other had vetted her but it turned out they only asked questions like did she believe in evolution and would she support policies where she and McCain disagreed. It apparently came as a big surprise when she thought the Queen was the head of the government in Great Britain. There simply was no vetting. To me, the most startling part of the movie was when the Steve Schmidt character (played very well by Woody Harrelson) told her shouldn't just keep lying about stuff when it has already been reported she was lying - anyone who can do that has several screws loose.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)I hate to do anything that might lead someone to believe that people are interested in her. I refuse to click on news links or anything like that.
I seriously detest this woman.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)same way I'd keep an eye the doggie door to make sure a rabid skunk doesn't get in. She herself isn't dangerous, it's her fan club - the ones that would literally lay down their lives for her that scare the bejeesus out of me.
And to be honest - she's not important enough to hate and after seeing that movie, I felt sorry for her. She had no idea how over her head she was until it was too late. Imagine actually believing it was G-d's plan that she be on the republican ticket and then losing so massively. It must have been quite a shock. Waaaaay more pissed at mccain for inflicting her on the rest of us.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)She's the head of the teabagging brigade and those maggots are doing their best to bring down this entire country.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)Palin doesn't allow reality to stand in the way of her opinions, and this is portrayed by her defenders as a VIRTUE. The virtue of simple America and Jesus loving ignorance. I don't mind politicians not knowing something -- there's all kinds of things I don't know. I don't mind them making mistakes or saying stupid things -- I cannot go a day without doing (or posting) something cringe inducing. But I do not claim this as my great virtue. I do not say that my flaws and failures and ignorance make me a better person.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Starting with "get the government away from my medicare" signs. Ignorant morons who think they know it all. And she's their queen.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)...That for at least some of the members of that fringe Palin's bobble head ignorance is endearing. That's what they want from a woman -- someone just smart enough to parrot Limbaugh and Hannity with conviction.
Do you recall the TV show they did about Sarah Palin's Alaska (that might have been the name actually) in which she is shown hunting something or other. She's blasting away at this thing and missing, then her dad or hubby gives her a different gun to shoot. All the while they are encouraging her. You can do it Sarah! Be careful of this gun Sarah, it kicks more than your gun! Here let me help you! Whatever. Eventually she (or someone) shoots the thing and Sarah gives the obligatory "circle of life" hunter speech.
At the time I was puzzled that they would show all that, since she is often portrayed as the rugged mountain girl next door, but she looked fairly silly. And of course she has editorial control. But then I realized that this was the point. She's playing to the fantasy. The Teaparty folks want her to struggle with that big old gun. Her job is to go out there and look willing and brave but desperately in need of a man. She's got to miss, get help from the men, miss some more, get more help and encouragement, and only then can she hit it.
To these people she represents the pinnacle of womanhood. She's attractive in a wholesome way, but innocently flirtatious as well. She's almost, but not quite, as smart as any man in the room. She would laugh at all of your jokes. She likes guns and hunting but she needs your help. She loves children, America, and Jesus. She doesn't trust nor need any of that ivy league book learning. She knows that Fox is real news, Obama is a socialist, Jesus is her savior, and her husband is her master.
Putting this lady out there as some feminine ideal is arguably the biggest insult the GOP has every handed to women, and it doesn't say a whole lot for their men either.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)she was chosen was because she had a uterus and the pubs thought women disappointed that Hillary didn't get the nod would automatically switch from one uterus to another. That's how they think of women - that we couldn't possibly understand the issues and we'd just want to vote in one of our own. It was incredibly insulting and I still don't think they understand why they do so badly among women. I hope they never figure it out.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)I struggle with that principle in general myself and likewise find it easier to forgive 'mere' ignorance in people. Have to since I live surrounded (almost drowned) by it where I retired to a little corner of the Midwest I call RedNeckLand - when they're not looking.
Leave aside arrogance. Any kind of willful ignorance is especially heinous and dangerous, especially in a supposedly educated person. I'd be a fool to expect much from people who brag on someone for almost making it to the 11th grade. And I admit that too many degreed folks don't really know much about anything; yet they're the ones without a leg to stand on. At least they obviously had a chance.
Until they had to leave for the sake of future political ambitions, Sarah and Todd belonged for several years to a radical right fascist group that advocates secession from the U.S. To me that's plain and simple treason. Why she didn't get hammered about it during the '08 campaign is beyond me. Maybe because our side figured it would get more GOP sympathy votes?
This is partly what explains my bottomless, utter contempt for the GOP and its tarbucket brigades. Regarding the latter, I haven't seen or heard much more sense from their degreed members either. And now they've driven poor Bob Woodard insane? Several times a year I write political letters to the editor of our local conservative rag sheet, and perhaps too often I finagle an excuse to whack at the neoConfederates, just daring them to go ahead and try to secede; THAT's when they'll see federal troops in the streets and maybe then they'll get a taste of what they deserve. Yes, I'm stupid enough to send such letters to print.
So far I've received 3 unsigned letters of support from people too scared to sign their names for obvious reasons. Among other niceties I've also had heavy glass beer bottles thrown at me from passing cars. When the GOP first took the House, a pickup load of the local alleged 'Patriots' showed up in front of my house cheering and waving their rifles. I went outside and smiled and waved while I took their picture. They took the hint and left. Haven't been back - so far. But they're out in the woods playing soldier all the time, preparing for that race war they claim the President wants to start.
Sheesh! All I wanted was a quiet, cheap place to retire and enjoy my books and animals. Sometimes it feels like it's already a war zone. Which it is, culturally speaking. I don't mean to whine even though I never dreamed things would turn out so hard. Among the totally apoliticals, I actually have a few friends. But I do owe future liberal retirees best wishes in having enough money to keep as far north as possible.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)RILib
(862 posts)I'd be happy to see Texas go, and some other states as well.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)AndyA
(16,993 posts)But most saw that right away. Says a LOT about McCain, who really should retire given his recent history in Congress and his failed 2008 Presidential run.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)It sounds like they don't think highly of FOX Noise.
randr
(12,409 posts)They had the nerve to promote her for VP when she doesn't qualify for their own standards. Given the overall competence of your average Fox employee the bar is already low.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)GentleSnake
(6 posts)HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)NYtoBush-Drop Dead
(490 posts)they all just want to bang her.
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)Oh Myyyyyyy!
dynasaw
(998 posts)and that is what counts among the men's club of the republican party and Fox Inc.
BTW She's apparently competent enough to handle a hunting rifle.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)That screechy scratchy voice and weird accent snuff out any hormonal reaction to her looks.
Her non eloquent, '40 words to orate 4 words of information' speaking style snuffs out any residual appeal.
alfredo
(60,071 posts)Ola.
(7 posts)period.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)And welcome to DU!!
Harry Monroe
(2,935 posts)Wow!!
alfredo
(60,071 posts)Diclotican
(5,095 posts)AgingAmerican
She was not competent to be on Fox news - but the republicans think she was competent enough to be the vice-president of the United States of America....
Well, I guess it says it all - about REPUBLICANS when the vice-president candidate is not even competent enough to be on fox news....
Diclotican
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)The next 'librul' guest who goes on FOX should point this out. "You guys figured out that Sarah Palin was too dumb for your network, yet you pushed heavily for this woman to be elected as vice president of the United States".
Would love to see their reaction, especially that trio of simpletons they have on in the morning.
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)AgingAmerican
That sight would have been worth a billion US dollar to watch... And I do hope, some will point it out somehow, sometime soon... And that it make it to you tube for everyone to watch...
Diclotican
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)who noted that he hired Palin and most of his female cast because they had high fantasy fuckability quotients for male FOX viewers.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)...and couldn't contain himself
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)But I tell you ole Carville is right. The more they are on the crazy train the more it helps dems.
nyquil_man
(1,443 posts)volstork
(5,399 posts)if this is a bigger slam to fox or to palin.....
Cleita
(75,480 posts)I don't think she was blond enough for Fox and she probably mouthed off to Roger Ailes once too often.
Bucky
(53,986 posts)Her skirts are too long for Fox's dress code.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Bucky
(53,986 posts)"Carville havin' a good day, huh? Well, we'll see who has a good day when we put Sarah Palin on TV commercials and rallies all over the country in 2014! We'll saturate her face all over the media and THEN we'll show him how much America loves Sarah. Ha ha!"
Cue the laugh track.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)This is definitely one for the Duh Files.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)in the even that McCain and her had won, and something happened to McCain...the powers that be wanted a puppet, like Regan, they would have had that with Palin..
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Hear the wind whistling through her ears...
Herlong
(649 posts)Fox news would have been very comfortable following her as Vice President?
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)I never thought there would be a way to get "Palin," "Fox," and "competent" all into one sentence.
Hulk Smash
(51 posts)I just don't see it. Plus the accent and general dopiness are complete turnoffs.
Ishoutandscream2
(6,660 posts)I don't understand people who think she is physically attractive.
DFW
(54,330 posts)That's like saying a bird was not competent enough to molt.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)Snowbilly Snookie
Snowbilly Snookie!!!!!
The scary thing is, there were over 40% of citizens that DID vote to put her "one heartbeat away."
hughee99
(16,113 posts)RZM
(8,556 posts)I'm guessing not very. Here's his wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Dowd
Looks like a professional turncoat to me. Started as a Democrat, changed sides, worked for Bush and then jumped ship during the second term.
And here's the description of his book, which seems like a monumental work of scholarship:
BobTheSubgenius
(11,562 posts)This is the same ilk that thought the ideal keynote speaker for the White House press corps dinner was Stephen Colbert? Sure, it gave his career an almost incalculable boost, and left me gaping at what he was saying, but it's small wonder regressives want to drop the teaching of critical thinking skills in schools. Critical thinking is not their friend.