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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 08:32 PM Mar 2013

"Worldly at 35, and Shaping Obama’s Voice" (He also wrote "9/11 Report)

(Kind of a bizarre article about this guy's rise to fame and going back when he was 20 Something Writing the "9/11 Report?"
Dunno about this...but it is NYT's which is read by many the World Over.

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Worldly at 35, and Shaping Obama’s Voice

Saul Loeb/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

Benjamin J. Rhodes, who pressed President Obama to take a more activist policy toward Egypt and Syria, advocates support of the Syrian opposition, friends and colleagues say.
By MARK LANDLER
Published: March 15, 2013

In many ways, Mr. Rhodes is an improbable choice for a job at the heart of the national security apparatus. An aspiring writer from Manhattan, he has an unfinished novel in a drawer, “Oasis of Love,” about a woman who joins a megachurch in Houston, breaking her boyfriend’s heart.

The son of a conservative-leaning Episcopalian father from Texas and a more liberal Jewish mother from New York, Mr. Rhodes grew up in a home where even sports loyalties were divided: he and his mother are ardent Mets fans; his father and his older brother, David, root for the Yankees.

“No one in that house agreed on anything,” said David Rhodes, who is now the president of CBS News.

Benjamin Rhodes, who worked briefly for Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani’s re-election campaign in 1997, was living a writer’s life in Queens on Sept. 11, 2001, when he watched from the Brooklyn waterfront as the World Trade Center towers collapsed. The trauma of that experience, he said, led him to move to Washington in 2002.

Mr. Rhodes went to work for a Democratic foreign-policy elder, former Representative Lee Hamilton, helping draft the 9/11 Commission report as well as the Iraq Study Group report. That report was a template for the anti-Iraq war positions taken by Barack Obama, then a senator, whose campaign Mr. Rhodes joined as a speechwriter in 2008.

At the White House, Mr. Rhodes first came to prominence after he wrote Mr. Obama’s landmark address to the Muslim world in Cairo in June 2009. The speech was notable for Mr. Obama’s assertion that governments should “reflect the will of the people,” prefiguring his policy in dealing with Mr. Mubarak and Colonel Qaddafi.

In writing Mr. Obama’s speech next week, Mr. Rhodes is likely to focus on America’s unshakable support for Israel. But if history is any guide, he will slip in a reference to Syria’s democratic future.

“Ben always holds on to the pen,” Mr. McFaul said. “Because of his close personal relationship with the president, Ben can always make policy through the speeches and statements made by President Obama.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/16/world/middleeast/benjamin-rhodes-obamas-voice-helps-shape-policy.html?hp&_r=2&pagewanted=all&

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"Worldly at 35, and Shaping Obama’s Voice" (He also wrote "9/11 Report) (Original Post) KoKo Mar 2013 OP
Ben's a cool guy Recursion Mar 2013 #1
He may be a Cool Guy...but his Power and Influence seems to go KoKo Mar 2013 #2
Ben's a vague acquaintance of mine, and a speechwriter Recursion Mar 2013 #6
Okay...can understand he's vague aquaintance of yours...BUT KoKo Mar 2013 #7
I guess if you don't work on the Hill it would be surprising Recursion Mar 2013 #8
That's "Interns" on the Hill where the Young go to Learn and Work KoKo Mar 2013 #9
Well, one hint is that his dad runs CBS News Recursion Mar 2013 #11
Well Yes...that speaks volumes.... KoKo Mar 2013 #13
I commented on another thread about him--how did he suddenly TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #3
That's what I found odd, too..He writes "9/11 Commission Report KoKo Mar 2013 #4
It's in the Good Reads forum, posted today. TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #5
Oh Thanks...then it's okay I'm posting here in GD in case folks KoKo Mar 2013 #10
One more thought: my girlfriend at the time had more influence in the 9/11 report than he did Recursion Mar 2013 #12
I can understand, from what you say that you KoKo Mar 2013 #14
And I want to make it clear that I see your point, but... Recursion Mar 2013 #15
Yes...but in the article...he's not just a speech or document writer... KoKo Mar 2013 #17
What are his connections? HangOnKids Mar 2013 #16
...1 KoKo Mar 2013 #18
The 9/11 report is crap whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #19
WHY was a 20 Something allowed to WRITE THAT REPORT? KoKo Mar 2013 #20
...1 KoKo Mar 2013 #21
Why does this person have Obama's Ear? KoKo Mar 2013 #22

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
2. He may be a Cool Guy...but his Power and Influence seems to go
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 08:37 PM
Mar 2013

into territory that it's hard to see him qualified for, though.

Just saying from reading this. I realize NYT is the Paper of Judith Miller (disgraced and others)...but, still.. Something seems really bizarre that this guy has Obama's ear and is influencing Policy along with "writing the 9/11 Commission Report?

Well...help me out here as to how this article distorts and lies...I have open ears to listen.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. Ben's a vague acquaintance of mine, and a speechwriter
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 08:53 PM
Mar 2013

Either he was BSing a reporter, or somebody else was, or he's been hiding a lot.

He tries to find the best language to represent Oval Office policy. That does involve his input, to some extent, but this was a puff piece, IMO.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
7. Okay...can understand he's vague aquaintance of yours...BUT
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 08:57 PM
Mar 2013

I don't think the NYT with it's already thin credibility is going to put this post out there with details than anyone can Google Search to track down if it's factual...unless the details are verifiable.

A 20 Something writing the "9/11 Commission Report" plus all the other connections he has to have Obama's Ear? And working for Rudy Giuliani? Plus much more.

Look someone wanted this out there and NYT is known for "insider info" but....there's something about this guy that says to me "How did he Rise so Fast...and WHY?"

Just saying....

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
8. I guess if you don't work on the Hill it would be surprising
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 09:00 PM
Mar 2013

We give 22 year olds live ammo (metaphorically) all the time, and some do really well with it and get a lot of responsibility very quickly.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
9. That's "Interns" on the Hill where the Young go to Learn and Work
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 09:07 PM
Mar 2013

their way Up..

This is different... This guy sort of started with Giuliani and Leapt Forward...from the article his pathway is astounding that now he has Obama's Ear on United States Foreign Policy?

It's quite an accomplishment for one so very young. No?

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
13. Well Yes...that speaks volumes....
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 09:27 PM
Mar 2013

Power, Influence and Interconnectivity....

Still...it's something that I think folks here would want to know, though.

I certainly found it interesting. He's MORE than just "Revolving Door" though...to rise so fast and WHAT is his Foreign Policy Experience that he has "Obama's Ear?"

I know NYT lacks creds...but it is the paper that is well read and has many ops writing for it still...and they don't care until they are outed and if not they achieve great fame and fortune.... because those are folks WAY UP there in the POWER ELITE... Brother CBS...and checking he also worked for FAUX NEWS at one time.

Well connected is the way to go these days. It always was but...much more so...these days...

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
3. I commented on another thread about him--how did he suddenly
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 08:37 PM
Mar 2013

in his 20's, with no foreign policy or national security creds, manage to get on the 9/11 commission? I don't like how he's been shaping Obama's foreign policy--too interventionist and hawkish. Obama's got a lot of good people to rely on for policy. Why does he look to this guy for advice, when this guy has no background or expertise? I don't understand this at all.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
4. That's what I found odd, too..He writes "9/11 Commission Report
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 08:48 PM
Mar 2013

in his 20's? How strange is that.

I missed the other thread ...do you have a link? I was at work today and missed it...and just was reading another site with the link to this which really had me puzzled.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
10. Oh Thanks...then it's okay I'm posting here in GD in case folks
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 09:08 PM
Mar 2013

missed it in "Good Reads." I'll check out what folks thought over there.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
12. One more thought: my girlfriend at the time had more influence in the 9/11 report than he did
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 09:21 PM
Mar 2013

She was even younger than he was, but she was the GIS specialist at the contractor who had the emergency response assessment contract for 9/11. He didn't create any content at all; he met with subject matter experts and incorporated whatever they said into a (hopefully) coherent single document.

KoKo

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14. I can understand, from what you say that you
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 09:37 PM
Mar 2013

are trying to put his "position" in context as to how he attained such power. And, that you are saying that many Young Folks worked on the "9/11 Commission Report."

But, I do wonder why the very young (as we all know in our early 20's we can be influenced by the Older Mentor and not always in the direction that is "independent" if you get my drift) ...so it's perfectly reasonable that those with POWER seek the very young to give influence to (guided by their hand) to achieve loyalty and to "work their way upward due to the power of the Mentor). I don't think Budget Restrictions could have been an issue here...because "9/11" was the biggest attack on US since Pearl Harbor and all funds should have been expended to get the Most Experienced to be involved in that Report....

Just saying...it's interesting that this was handled like it was some low level investigation to give a chance for the Young Interns (recent college grads) a chance to show their stuff ...mentored by the Commission which was in itself made up by folks who were hardly the broadest spectrum that should have been chosen for an event that was so Grave and Shocking as "9/11" that would lead us into endless wars...(boondoggles for Independent Military Contractors) and Trillions of Taxpayers Dollars Spent and Wasted and SO MANY DEATHS OF INNOCENTS and American Soldiers (young innocents themselves along with older National Guard) in the countries we've invaded ...and is still going on.

Just Saying.....

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
15. And I want to make it clear that I see your point, but...
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 09:39 PM
Mar 2013

... I also think you're overestimating the role the person billed as "writer" has on most government documents. What the "writer" does is take what other people wrote and shape it into better prose. Outside of the beltway you'd probably call him a "copy editor".

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
17. Yes...but in the article...he's not just a speech or document writer...
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 10:02 PM
Mar 2013

The article says he has Obama's "Ear" on Foreign Policy.

That's a very different thing from being a "young speech writer and document writer for the President of USA. I still have problem with a young 20 something crafting together the "9/11 Report" though. Who was overseeing him? Why was he chosen.

Nevertheless...I thank you for the discussion. Not often here on DU that we try to understand each other's viewpoints without name calling and worse.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
20. WHY was a 20 Something allowed to WRITE THAT REPORT?
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 07:15 PM
Mar 2013

Thats what that article calls attention to! Where were the SEASONED PEOPLE who SHOULD haver Written it....since THEY were the ONES who SIGNED OFF ON IT!

Just to TRAP the NEW KID? We need to think about HOW and WHO does these REPORTS for our TAXPAYER GOVT.!

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