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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 09:38 PM Mar 2013

Because we don't have enough surreal history data here: The Union Camel Corps

Yes, you read that right. The Union Army briefly tried to use camels to help troops and supplies move over the desert Southwest.

Many broke free. The last feral camel sighting was during the Great Depression (seriously).

For your Wiki'ing pleasure:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Camel_Corps

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Fitzgerald_Beale

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi_Jolly

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Because we don't have enough surreal history data here: The Union Camel Corps (Original Post) Recursion Mar 2013 OP
I've read of them being used. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #1
It was a complete fiasco Recursion Mar 2013 #2
Many camels that didn't break free and ended up at California's Benicia Arsenal Brother Buzz Mar 2013 #3
I had no idea, Brother Buzz. Thank you. Recursion Mar 2013 #4
Best thread title of the year so far if you ask me Bennyboy Mar 2013 #5
I believe Huell Howser did visit the Camel Barns Brother Buzz Mar 2013 #10
The good folks at the Fort Tejon Historical Association get into some detail on the camels Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #6
Outstanding! Recursion Mar 2013 #7
Big fun, I loved seeing the Benicia photos Buzz posted as well. Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #9
have you ever been to the annual camel races in virginia city? several legends say that the camels niyad Mar 2013 #8
Hawmps! blogslut Mar 2013 #11
A very distant cousin of mine was the first to advocate for camels csziggy Mar 2013 #12
 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
1. I've read of them being used.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 09:42 PM
Mar 2013

From my understanding they did not work well due to the SW being more rocky then the desert they were native to.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. It was a complete fiasco
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 09:43 PM
Mar 2013

Check out the Wiki articles. But there's something very compelling in the story.

Brother Buzz

(36,416 posts)
3. Many camels that didn't break free and ended up at California's Benicia Arsenal
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 10:07 PM
Mar 2013

I grew up hearing about the Camel Barns; they were pointed out every time we drove past them. As an adult, I was bummed to learn these fine buildings weren't built to house camels, but simply exquisite warehouse used to hold the camels until the Army could dispose of them.


These finely crafted sandstone Buildings were originally constructed for use as Warehouses. They gained their name and fame, however, during a brief period in 1863-64 when they were to stable a herd of camels imported by the U.S. Army for transportation in the American desert.


Today, they house a fine little museum.

 

Bennyboy

(10,440 posts)
5. Best thread title of the year so far if you ask me
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 10:19 PM
Mar 2013

and the most informative. Benicia. I been there. Not all over but some places. never knew about the camels there. Kind of Huell Howserish.

And I never knew about the camels in the desert but always figgered that.

Brother Buzz

(36,416 posts)
10. I believe Huell Howser did visit the Camel Barns
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 11:08 PM
Mar 2013

I grew up hearing about the camel barns. My son grew up hearing about and looking at a more famous Benicia attraction.

July 1996, this Dixie The Dinosaur was moved from out hometown to Benicia. There, she underwent a sex change and a name change - Benny the Dinosaur.



In 2004 it was moved again, to Napa, and then burned in a wildfire. Got all burned up!

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
6. The good folks at the Fort Tejon Historical Association get into some detail on the camels
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 10:36 PM
Mar 2013

which lived there for a few months on route to Benicia. They are a tad passionate about the whole thing, but they have lots of information and pictures.
http://www.forttejon.org/camel.html

niyad

(113,259 posts)
8. have you ever been to the annual camel races in virginia city? several legends say that the camels
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 10:40 PM
Mar 2013

are descendents of some of the wanderers from the camel corps. another version is:



Camels have long history in Virginia City, once being used as service animals for the gold mines in the 1800s. However, according to local legend, the animals' comical history came into play just over 50 years ago when Bob Richards, editor of the local paper the Territorial Enterprise, ran a fictitious news story about local camel races. Richards was notorious for his practical jokes, so he didn't count on being taken seriously. But the editor of the San Francisco Chronicle thought it was a real story and reprinted it. He was less than amused when he found out it was a hoax.

The following year, Richards ran an announcement of upcoming camel races, and the Chronicle editor decided to turn the tables on the trickster and said he would be sending a team to compete in the races. The Virginia City editor scrambled to make his joke a reality, and the International Camel Races were born. Hollywood director John Huston was the first race on a camel borrowed from the San Francisco Zoo.

http://www.sierranevadageotourism.org/content/virginia-city-international-camel-races/sie0E1B4B64882449EA5

54th Annual Virginia City
International Camel Races
September 6 - 8, 2013
Virginia City, Nevada.

The Virginia City International Camel Races is a tradition that has been taking place for over 5 decades. For the past 54 years, these Camel & Ostrich Races have served as a testament to the spirit of the Wild West, and the history of Nevada. This year's event expects to draw 30,000 people to our area. The camel races have always been an exciting fun-filled event receiving local, statewide, and national attention.
http://www.road-shows.com/camel_races.php

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
12. A very distant cousin of mine was the first to advocate for camels
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 11:41 PM
Mar 2013

Though he preferred the Bactrian camel.

Josiah Harlan was the first American in Afghanistan - in 1826. He was likely the person that Rudyard Kipling based his story "The Man Who Would Be King".

Harlan was quite an adventurer. He was born in Pennsylvania a Quaker, left home to make his fortune but when his fiance married another while he was sailing the world, he vowed to never return. He hired on as a doctor, learning his trade from the books his brother gave him.

He was appointed Prince of Ghor, but then became so critical of the British behavior in the first Anglo-Afghan War he was thrown out of Afghanistan and India. On his way back to the US, he visited Russia. After his return home, he wrote a book critical of the British with



Once he returned to America, Harlan was feted as a national hero. He skillfully played the press, telling them not to dwell on his royal title, as he "looks upon kingdoms and principalities as of frivolous import, when set in opposition to the honourable and estimable title of American citizen".[2] His glory quickly faded after the publication of A Memoir of India and Afghanistan ? With observations upon the present critical state and future prospects of those Countries. Harlan attacked his old British enemies from Afghanistan and called the British imperial system despicable. Most alarmingly, he wrote about the ease with which Russia could, if it so chose, attack and seriously harm the British Empire.

Harlan was denounced in Britain, although, as one historian has observed, his book was "officially discredited, but secretly read, under the table, by historians and British strategists".[3] The American press did not pan him, but the controversy ensured that he would never publish another book.

With his funds dwindling, Harlan began taking on new tasks. He began lobbying the American government to import camels to settle the Western United States. His real hope was that they would order their camels from Afghanistan and send him there as purchasing agent. Harlan convinced the government that camels would be a worthy investment (Secretary of War Jefferson Davis was particularly interested), but it was decided that it would be cheaper to import them from Africa than from Afghanistan. When the US Army discovered the resistance of American horses, mules, and cows to the aggressive camels, the Camel Corps was disbanded in 1863. Camels were set free in Arizona.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josiah_Harlan#Homeward_bound


After finding references to him in British papers from the 1800s, Ben McIntyre wrote a biography of Harlan - The Man Who Would Be King: The First American In Afghanistan. It's an interesting read.
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