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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:10 AM Mar 2013

Customers to fill out form if paying with $100 bill

A local restaurant chain is now asking customers to fill out a form before paying with a 100. They say that's because they are often on the losing end off counterfeit $100 bills.

Bob Bacon, owner Gregg's restaurants, said his four locations have received 5 fake $100 bills in the last three months. "When this happened once a year, it was kinda the cost of doing business," said Bacon.

This starts to happen as frequently as it has since December, then it becomes something you at least have to do something about," Bacon told NBC10 News.

The form asks for name, phone number, and drivers license number, which Bacon says is like what some places ask for from check users.

http://www.turnto10.com/story/21728102/customers-to-fill-out-form-if-paying-with-100-bill

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Customers to fill out form if paying with $100 bill (Original Post) The Straight Story Mar 2013 OP
why not teach their cashiers how to check bills? n/t NMDemDist2 Mar 2013 #1
Don't be going all Bay Boy Mar 2013 #2
They are using the pen kudzu22 Mar 2013 #12
A prediction. Helen Reddy Mar 2013 #3
Does he plan to staple the info to the particular $100? SoCalDem Mar 2013 #4
His customers pay the employees more than he does Fumesucker Mar 2013 #6
The pens won't always help. Jenoch Mar 2013 #14
It's not like restaurants depend on repeat business Fumesucker Mar 2013 #5
That guy isn't very smart. Apophis Mar 2013 #7
the markers dont always work Sivart Mar 2013 #8
good info... snooper2 Mar 2013 #11
that's true NMDemDist2 Mar 2013 #13
Why not pay via Credit card or debit card? It's so much easier. graham4anything Mar 2013 #9
Swipe fees kudzu22 Mar 2013 #10
Wonder if he is going to go to pay-in-advance,too. Downwinder Mar 2013 #15
Can't they just get one of those fading ink pens? Geeze. talkingmime Mar 2013 #16
I haven't used a $100 bill in years sharp_stick Mar 2013 #17
How many restraunts does "Bob" own ? olddots Mar 2013 #18

Bay Boy

(1,689 posts)
2. Don't be going all
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:19 AM
Mar 2013

logical on his ass.

I see places using those marker pens all the time on everything that's a twenty or bigger.
I don't know how they work or how well they work. But I would think just looking for the
watermark would be good enough, that or the security stripe.

kudzu22

(1,273 posts)
12. They are using the pen
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 12:08 PM
Mar 2013

according to the video in the link. As others have noted, though, the pen doesn't catch everything. They need to look at the watermark and the plastic strip. Those are much harder to fake.

 

Helen Reddy

(998 posts)
3. A prediction.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:27 AM
Mar 2013

This guy will lose more business with this form than would lose money with the fake bills.

A long shot I know.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
4. Does he plan to staple the info to the particular $100?
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:32 AM
Mar 2013

Say he takes 3 of them in a day and one is bad...how does he determine which customer to call?

those pens are dirt cheap, and they work just fine at the point of acceptance..

sounds like he needs to take 5 minutes and train his employees...or put ONE person in charge of collecting the money, and make sure they know how to check the bills

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
6. His customers pay the employees more than he does
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:37 AM
Mar 2013

Evidently he wants the customers to train them also.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
14. The pens won't always help.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 12:12 PM
Mar 2013

The pens only detect if the paper has cotton in it. Most paper is made from wood pulp. Counterfeiters bleach real $5 bills and print fake $100 bills with them. The paper then feels the way it should. I think the $5 and $100 bills have the security strip close the same place on the bill so if held up to the light and not examined closely it could fool someone.

These bills really do not stand up to close examination however. This restaurant owner is dealong with it using identification. The problem with that is that they coild provide false IDs. That might be a hassle though, and that is what he is counting on. The reason it works for him is that all he has to do is to get them to pass the bills at some other place.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
5. It's not like restaurants depend on repeat business
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:36 AM
Mar 2013

So this sounds like a great plan, I'm sure no one will mind showing ID to pay with cash.


 

Sivart

(325 posts)
8. the markers dont always work
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:45 AM
Mar 2013

The markers dont always work.

One of the new ways to counterfeit money is to take five dollar bills - the lowest denomination that has the band inside- and bleaching them, and reprinting them as 20's, 50's, or 100's.

Since the paper used is from an actual 5 spot, these fake bills pass the marker test, as well as when you hold them up to the light to look for the band inside.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
11. good info...
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 12:06 PM
Mar 2013

I finally broke down and bought a real printer that won't empty the ink after 80 fucking pages...

Put HP to the test?

NMDemDist2

(49,313 posts)
13. that's true
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 12:12 PM
Mar 2013

so you also have to make sure the holographic photo of the President on the bill matches up too.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
9. Why not pay via Credit card or debit card? It's so much easier.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:48 AM
Mar 2013

Why should the small business person be out the money?

kudzu22

(1,273 posts)
10. Swipe fees
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 12:03 PM
Mar 2013

The business is out the swipe fee on card transactions. Not as bad as losing $100 on a counterfeit, but more prevalent.

 

talkingmime

(2,173 posts)
16. Can't they just get one of those fading ink pens? Geeze.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 01:00 PM
Mar 2013

A hundred is legal tender. Period. Check the watermark of Franklin and run a pen over it. What's the big deal?

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
17. I haven't used a $100 bill in years
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 01:19 PM
Mar 2013

same with the $50. All I ever have in cash is the $20's the come out of the ATM and change from those $20's.

More often than not I'm paying with debit or credit in any case.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
18. How many restraunts does "Bob" own ?
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 01:32 PM
Mar 2013

The site wouldn't open and I'd like to know if we can expect more of this .I see very few hundred dollar bills since the auto teller started replacing bank jobs 30 years ago someone has to go into a bank and make a withdrawal to get 100$s
I mourn the days of cash but that subject could start a convenience war.

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