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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:29 PM Mar 2013

Rubio: ‘ObamaCare’s Full Repeal Remains Our Ultimate Goal’

Rubio: ‘ObamaCare’s Full Repeal Remains Our Ultimate Goal’

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) issued a statement following his vote Friday in favor of repealing the Affordable Care Act in what was the latest Republican-led effort to end the new health care law that failed in the Senate.

Rubio said in the statement that full repeal remains the GOP's "ultimate goal," but said he's pleased that 34 Democrats joined all Republican senators on Thursday to repeal the health care law's sales tax on medical devices.

“One of the first votes I took when I arrived in Washington was to repeal ObamaCare, and today I voted again for its repeal because I firmly believe we need to get rid of this disastrous law. Leaving it in place will only leave job creators with uncertainty, patients with fewer health care options, and taxpayers with explosive taxes and costs.

“While ObamaCare’s full repeal remains our ultimate goal, last night I was encouraged that even most Democrats agreed that we should dismantle part of this job-killing law by repealing its tax on medical devices. By removing this burdensome ObamaCare tax, we will be one step closer to saving Americans billions of dollars and valuable jobs, and again expose this law for the flawed program it is.”

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/rubio-obamacares-repeal-gops-ultimate-goal

Another Obamacare repeal vote down the drain
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022551634

Worth repeating: Know why Republicans are so dead set against ACA? It did the unthinkable: raised taxes on the rich.

There is a debate about the impact of the recent tax deal, but simple arithmetic shows the reality.

Pre Bush tax cuts: lowest tax bracket 15 percent and top tax bracket 39.6 percent.
Bush tax cuts: lowest tax bracket 10 percent and top tax bracket 35 percent.
President Obama's tax deal, lowest rate 10 percent, top rate 39.6 percent.

Do the math and it will show that the gap between someone earning $50,000 and someone earning $500,000 closed to more than what it was in the 1990s. Add the health care law tax and the gap closes even more.

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Perhaps the best prism through which to see the Democrats’ gains is inequality. In the 2008 campaign, Mr. Obama said that his top priority as president would be to “create bottom-up economic growth” and reduce inequality...In the 2009 stimulus, he insisted on making tax credits “fully refundable,” so that even people who did not make enough to pay much federal tax would benefit. The 2010 health care law overhaul was probably the biggest attack on inequality since it began rising in the 1970s, increasing taxes on businesses and the rich to pay for health insurance largely for the middle class.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/03/us/politics/for-obama-fiscal-deal-is-a-victory-that-also-holds-risks.html


Obama and Redistribution

Some notes for myself: how much impact have Obama’s policies actually had on current and prospective inequality?

The main policies to consider are PPACA (the health reform) and ATRA (the fiscal cliff deal with its associated tax rise).

I’m not a fan of the Tax Foundation’s work, but their analysis of the distributional effects of Obamacare looks about right: significant benefits to the bottom half of the income distribution, paid for largely by taxes on the top few percent (the Medicare surcharge and the extra tax on investment income). The Tax Policy Center — whose work I do trust — has the Act reducing the after-tax income of the top 1 percent by 1.8 percent, the top 0.1 percent by 2.5 percent.

Meanwhile, ATRA raises taxes relative to a continuation of the Bush high-end tax cuts: after-tax income down 4.5 percent for the 1-percenters, 6.2 percent for the top 0.1 percent.

Putting this together, we have a roughly 6 percent hit to the 1 percent, around 9 to the superelite. That’s only a partial rollback of these groups’ huge gains since 1980, but it’s not trivial.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/20/obama-and-redistribution/

Do the math.
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Rubio: ‘ObamaCare’s Full Repeal Remains Our Ultimate Goal’ (Original Post) ProSense Mar 2013 OP
‘ObamaCare’s Full Repeal Remains Our Ultimate Goal’ Politicalboi Mar 2013 #1
Yup, and the truth is ProSense Mar 2013 #2
Even the republicans I know are getting tired of this Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #3
The tax increase on the rich means they'll never stop trying. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #7
Misdirection so that the discussion is on past issues, not new relationships applegrove Mar 2013 #4
Currently, they're using it to tie up a vote on the Democratic budget. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #5
Anything to keep new ideas on governance from taking hold. applegrove Mar 2013 #15
Congress has its own agenda. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #17
Rubio will lose his senate seat here in fla...but it will be law, before he's up to run. SugarShack Mar 2013 #6
That would be sweet. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #12
Is anyone going ProSense Mar 2013 #8
Can he just give up his HealthCare and leave the rest of us alone?? RockaFowler Mar 2013 #9
How many repeal votes can they hold? It's ridiculous. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #13
Consumers are the job creators. They are already upaloopa Mar 2013 #10
For every health care repeal vote, there should be a vote on ProSense Mar 2013 #14
LMAO --- That's their latest mantra. lpbk2713 Mar 2013 #11
This is all they have. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #16
Kick! n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #18
Rubio is fourteen minutes into his fifteen. nt Snotcicles Mar 2013 #19
That last minute ProSense Mar 2013 #20
Keep on talking, idiot. Let's get disapproval rate up ! What I am pissed about is how Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2013 #21
Rubio and ProSense Mar 2013 #22
 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
1. ‘ObamaCare’s Full Repeal Remains Our Ultimate Goal’
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:34 PM
Mar 2013

That should be hung around his neck and the GOP's till 2014 and 2016. Let the people know that the Supreme Court says it stays no matter how many times these assholes vote to repeal it.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
2. Yup, and the truth is
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:42 PM
Mar 2013

the health care law represents not only the biggest expansion of the safety net since Medicare, but also the first attempt to address inquality in decades.



Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
3. Even the republicans I know are getting tired of this
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:43 PM
Mar 2013

they are ready to move on, but let them continue with this nonsense it will spell their demise.

applegrove

(118,497 posts)
4. Misdirection so that the discussion is on past issues, not new relationships
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:45 PM
Mar 2013

between corporations, government and workers.

 

SugarShack

(1,635 posts)
6. Rubio will lose his senate seat here in fla...but it will be law, before he's up to run.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:54 PM
Mar 2013

He's pandering, for others in 2014

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
8. Is anyone going
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 03:18 PM
Mar 2013

to do the math and argue against the point that the health care law has done more to address inquality than any policy in decades?

Let it sink?

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
9. Can he just give up his HealthCare and leave the rest of us alone??
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 03:22 PM
Mar 2013

He hates the Big Bad Government so much, but he loves to take from the Government. He's been doing it his entire adult life. The biggest mooch on the planet is one Marc Rube (I know I spelled his name wrong). I think it's about time for him to just give up his cushy government job, government healthcare and government pension. There are plenty of us that would be willing to do the work of the people of Florida. We surely don't need that idiot speaking for us!!

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
10. Consumers are the job creators. They are already
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 03:25 PM
Mar 2013

living in uncertainty. Not knowing if a health problem will bankrupt them.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
14. For every health care repeal vote, there should be a vote on
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 04:30 PM
Mar 2013

something that will help Americans: a jobs bill, funds for infrastucture upgrades, minimum wage increase...



lpbk2713

(42,738 posts)
11. LMAO --- That's their latest mantra.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 03:27 PM
Mar 2013



It is meant to supersede "We want to make Obama a one term President."

How did that one work out for you clowns?

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Oh, and by the way Marco, you are way behind Hillary in the polls and the race isn't even on yet.
Save yourself some embarrassment. Go home, lock the door, pull down the shades and ignore the phone.

Link: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/poll-hillary-crushes-rubio-among-florida-hispanics


 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
21. Keep on talking, idiot. Let's get disapproval rate up ! What I am pissed about is how
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 10:24 PM
Mar 2013

the media forgot how he lied about his parent's escaping Castro.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
22. Rubio and
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 10:19 AM
Mar 2013

Republicans are determined to keep digging that hole. Here's an admendment from the budget debate:

amendment by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) that would permanently bar illegal immigrants from ever receiving health care under Medicaid or the Affordable Care Act. The Sessions amendment failed 43-56


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022555190
One Republican, Murkowski, voted against it: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00077
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