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senseandsensibility

(16,933 posts)
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 05:05 PM Mar 2013

Talk about nerve...Tweety's on live now with an I told you so about Iraq!

He's bragging about how he was always against the war and has been proven right. He said something about how he held back from his criticism for a while. His hand is going to get really sore patting himself on the back.

Of course nothing about the truly courageous journalists who never held back. He was the only one who was right.

Funny... I remember him swooning over chimp in a flightsuit, and being a jerk to Phil Donahue. He thinks there is no video of this, I guess..

Where's the barf icon when you need it?

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Talk about nerve...Tweety's on live now with an I told you so about Iraq! (Original Post) senseandsensibility Mar 2013 OP
I hope that someone on his panels point that out to him. Whisp Mar 2013 #1
He's known for not letting David Corn talk senseandsensibility Mar 2013 #2
Tweety voted for Bush in 2000 but I thought he was against the war in written articles from 2002. JaneyVee Mar 2013 #3
This bull-shit from him cannot be allowed to stand, he pimped for W, he pimped for the Ninga Mar 2013 #4
gee it is almost as if he thinks his audience is dumb enough to buy propaganda dsc Mar 2013 #5
He thinks we have forgotten? He still has brown bits sticking to his Cleita Mar 2013 #6
he did oppose the war, on tv. he was the only one to question and challenge. seabeyond Mar 2013 #7
Only because they fired Phil Donahue n/t Fumesucker Mar 2013 #8
he consistently oppsed the war and spoke out against the war. people are saying he lied. seabeyond Mar 2013 #10
I was listening to him at the time Fumesucker Mar 2013 #11
not gonna mess around. he did luv his bushco. but, he still opposed the war. seabeyond Mar 2013 #12
In answer to your question... 99Forever Mar 2013 #9
You Gotta be KIDDING! KoKo Mar 2013 #13
You can hear it live in a few minutes senseandsensibility Mar 2013 #14
kick! Tweety the little bird liar Whisp Mar 2013 #15
Tweety was against the war????? I don't fucking think so. Autumn Mar 2013 #16
He was BainsBane Mar 2013 #17
He was very pro Bush and cheered damn near everything he did. Including the war. Autumn Mar 2013 #19
Here's an article from 2003, before the invasion BainsBane Mar 2013 #20
he was like all the rest Whisp Mar 2013 #21
You got it 100% right Wisp. That's exacly what they did. Including Tweety. Autumn Mar 2013 #22
Wha? City Lights Mar 2013 #18
The Big Lie in operation. Octafish Mar 2013 #23
He swooned over Shrub's codpiece strut on the Mission Accomplished Barge, Matthews make me puke kairos12 Mar 2013 #24
He swooned over Chimp. But he was adamantly against Iraq. Baitball Blogger Mar 2013 #25
"Holding back on your criticism" is what makes you a fucking invasion SUPPORTER, nitwit. Marr Mar 2013 #26
A lot of people have forgotten this gem as well.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #27
 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
1. I hope that someone on his panels point that out to him.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 05:09 PM
Mar 2013

not likely, for one Tweety doesn't let others talk much.
for two, they would be too scared to.

Ninga

(8,273 posts)
4. This bull-shit from him cannot be allowed to stand, he pimped for W, he pimped for the
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 05:26 PM
Mar 2013

war.......he pimped for Cheney......he's a fucking pimp. Read this from 2005....and the snip taken from an interview with doc film maker, Alexandra Palosi. Matthews is such a fucking pimp ass hole......has he even said ONE WORD about Tomas Young? No balls, that's why....sputter, fume and bluster Matthews all you want you creep.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2005/05/31/matthewss-statements-defy-conservatives-claims/133268


-snip-
MATTHEWS: I make this president look like -- you don't watch this program, Alexandra. That has never been the case with me. And anybody watching knows right now, we treat this guy [Bush] with respect. I happen to like him. I voted for him at least once. I'm not going to go any further on that. But the idea that we treat him like a dunce is just inaccurate.

[...]

MATTHEWS: Just to straighten the record out, Alexandra, back in the 2000 race, I was one of the few journalists that pointed out that George W. Bush did extremely well in those debates against Al Gore. In fact, I said he won in terms of personality, in terms of likability and fairness and on other grounds. I was the one who took a lot of heat for taking that position.

From the beginning, I've defended him on issues like saying Jesus Christ is his personal philosopher. I've defended him against the liberal elitists who did put him down. So, I don't think it's fair to say that I have in any way abused him. Do you want to take that back or do you want to start over or what here?

dsc

(52,152 posts)
5. gee it is almost as if he thinks his audience is dumb enough to buy propaganda
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 05:34 PM
Mar 2013

something that people ridiculed when I pointed out Lawrence O'Donnell engaged in similar behavior. fancy that.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
6. He thinks we have forgotten? He still has brown bits sticking to his
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 05:38 PM
Mar 2013

nose from having it up Bush's ass all those years. You can still summon up the barf icon by typing the word puke between colons.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
7. he did oppose the war, on tv. he was the only one to question and challenge.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 05:38 PM
Mar 2013

he swooned over the flight suit also.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
10. he consistently oppsed the war and spoke out against the war. people are saying he lied.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 05:44 PM
Mar 2013

he did not lie.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
11. I was listening to him at the time
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 05:48 PM
Mar 2013

He still loved him some manly man Dubya then.

Tweety's kind of like the Bible, he talks so damn much you can get anything you want to out of his blitherings .

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
12. not gonna mess around. he did luv his bushco. but, he still opposed the war.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 05:49 PM
Mar 2013

Last edited Fri Mar 22, 2013, 06:31 PM - Edit history (1)

BainsBane

(53,016 posts)
17. He was
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 12:28 PM
Mar 2013

consistently. I've watched the show for years. I recall it. He also wrote editorials about it. You can probably find them on Google.

Autumn

(44,986 posts)
19. He was very pro Bush and cheered damn near everything he did. Including the war.
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 12:33 PM
Mar 2013

Oh he was a little circular about it, flopping around like a fish but he still supported it. That when I quit watching that ass.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
21. he was like all the rest
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 12:42 PM
Mar 2013

when the war was developing they were all frothy with excitement over their wonderful president.

when the truth started seeping out that that wonderful president was really a doofus mass murderer, then all of the fake talking heads put their opinions in reverse and gunned the engine and hope no one notices.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
18. Wha?
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 12:29 PM
Mar 2013

Haha, nice try, Chris! Back when junior was lying us into war, he used to get that tingle up his leg from watching junior speechify. He was so pro-junior back then it was sickening!

Wow. Selective amnesia strikes again.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
23. The Big Lie in operation.
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 12:48 PM
Mar 2013

Enough will believe him for it to help shape the perception of his legitimacy.

Jim di Eugenio pegged Tweety, who wrote a lot about JFK, but his book said very little:



Why Mr. Hardball Found JFK Elusive

Exclusive: For weeks, Chris Matthews has been flogging his book, Jack Kennedy: Elusive Hero, driving it up the ranks of best-seller lists, but the biography is as superficial and clueless as the MSNBC pundit often is, missing Kennedy’s true complexity, writes James DiEugenio.

By James DiEugenio
ConsortiumNews January 3, 2012

EXCERPT...

On the previous page, he stated that his other main source was the interviews he did for his 1996 book. But in reality it’s worse than that. For if one looks at the footnotes and reads Matthews’s own comments on the subject, one of his favorite book sources is Herbert Parmet’s two-volume biography of Kennedy, which first appeared in 1982. This consisted of Jack: The Struggles of John F. Kennedy, and JFK: The Presidency of John F. Kennedy.

I am familiar with these books since I used them in writing my first book entitled Destiny Betrayed. Looking back, I should not have. Parmet is a conventional historian in the manner and method of say David McCullough and the late Stephen Ambrose. He is not the kind of man who, as historians say, pushes the envelope or forges a new frontier for others to follow.

And with Kennedy, that is necessary since many of the things he was doing were rather unconventional – to the point that new information was still being discovered 40 years after his death. And we are still learning about them today; many years after Parmet published his rather obsolete books. Yet, in the face of that, Matthews still swears by Parmet.

Let me name just four books that do push the envelope and forge a new frontier, all of them released since Parmet’s. They are: JFK: Ordeal in Africa, The Kennedy Tapes, Battling Wall Street, and JFK and Vietnam. These books deepen our understanding of both John Kennedy and that turbulent age much more than the Parmet study does.

Considering who Matthews is, the reader will not be surprised to learn that there is not one footnote in the entire book related to any of these sources. This is remarkable because, as many Kennedy experts would say, those four books are in the forefront of Kennedy scholarship today.

CONTINUED...

http://consortiumnews.com/2012/01/03/why-mr-hardball-found-jfk-elusive/



As Tweety will never invite him on his show to try and get a word out, I'll side with Oliver Stone on this one.

PS: Lying neocon stooge for the warmongers is about the nicest thing I can think of to write.
 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
26. "Holding back on your criticism" is what makes you a fucking invasion SUPPORTER, nitwit.
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 12:52 PM
Mar 2013

People who DIDN'T play along with the bullshit and actually voiced the very obvious problems with the Administration's case for invasion-- like Phil Donahue-- were FIRED.

Regular citizens who went out and protested, or made their feelings known elsewhere, were insulted (or worse) by right-wing assholes from the street level to the White House Press Room. If you "held back your criticism" when it actually mattered-- when it was actually hard to voice-- then you are part of the right-wingers' camp-- NOT the dissidents'.

This is the standard line now, though. I even hear it from people with whom I personally argued at the time. They now insist that they never believed any of it, or even that they protested the invasion-- when I know for a fact they were cheering like idiots at the time.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
27. A lot of people have forgotten this gem as well....
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 02:11 PM
Mar 2013
http://mediamatters.org/static/video/2007/02/07/imus-20070207-matthews.mov

He admires people who come off as strong or fatherly. He admires authoritarian types and the ONLY reason he supports Obama is because he's not seen as "weak".

Make no mistake, if McCain or Romney had won he would have sucked up to them. What got me is when Fred Thompson announced he was all creamy-dreamy over the idea of the smell of cigars and Old Spice. What was funny was when he sited a poll that said a Republican could beat Obama and Rachael asked, "Who?" and he was floored because there wasn't a specific Republican he could name that had a chance.
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