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PennsylvaniaMatt

(966 posts) Fri Mar 22, 2013, 06:50 PM Mar 2013

Check In And Share Your Thoughts If You Are Absolutely FED UP With These "Personhood" Amendments

We have seen efforts in many states to erode women's abortion rights in the past, but these "Personhood" amendments take it WAY too far. For God sake, it would technically ban IN VITRO FERTILIZATION AND FORMS OF BIRTH CONTROL!

Hell, I'm a man, but after seeing a report on tonight's CBS Evening News talking about the latest action in North Dakota pushing a resolution on voters next year that would have far reaching implications and cause ND to have the strictest abortion laws in the nation, I am just flabbergasted and outraged!

Democrats HAVE to be united in opposition to these absurd efforts. coming from the party of "small government" and more "personal freedom"!!!

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Check In And Share Your Thoughts If You Are Absolutely FED UP With These "Personhood" Amendments (Original Post) PennsylvaniaMatt Mar 2013 OP

PROVE a 'person" has been conceived HockeyMom Mar 2013 #1

Even some of the GOP legislators in ND are fed up, see article below Tx4obama Mar 2013 #2

What will they come up with next ? Is Mitt Romney a person ? I think not olddots Mar 2013 #3

K&R SunSeeker Mar 2013 #4

This is religious extremism RainDog Mar 2013 #5

That was the first thing that I thought also.... PennsylvaniaMatt Mar 2013 #6

Religious belief is not science nor is the legislature the venue RainDog Mar 2013 #7

I have been screaming my bloody head off for 25 years over the threat kestrel91316 Mar 2013 #8

They mandate that a clump of cells is a "person" and a woman is not ProfessionalLeftist Mar 2013 #9

Excellent, Matt sheshe2 Mar 2013 #10

What I know. bluestate10 Mar 2013 #11

The ERA felix_numinous Mar 2013 #12

Penis to have "personhood" too....... L0oniX Mar 2013 #13

The anti-choice people are relentless. Bake Mar 2013 #14

As a Colorado voter who has seen this on the ballot a few times, CrispyQ Mar 2013 #15

Exactly... PennsylvaniaMatt Mar 2013 #16

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)

1. PROVE a 'person" has been conceived

Reply to PennsylvaniaMatt (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 06:55 PM

Mar 2013

Or are they going to just assume that millions of women of childbearing age are incubating a PERSON?????

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)

2. Even some of the GOP legislators in ND are fed up, see article below

Reply to PennsylvaniaMatt (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 06:56 PM

Mar 2013

North Dakota Republican Pols To Protest Anti-Abortion Laws: 'We Have Stepped Over The Line'
03/21/2013

A group of GOP state lawmakers in North Dakota will protest new abortion restrictions on Monday at a Stand Up for Women rally in Bismarck, N.D., because they believe their fellow Republicans have gone too far.

"It's to say, hey, this isn't okay. We have stepped over the line," said state Rep. Kathy Hawken (R-Fargo) in a phone interview with The Huffington Post. "One of the key tenets of the Republican Party is personal responsibility. I'm personally pro-life, but I vote pro-choice, because you can't make that decision for anyone else. You just can't."

North Dakota recently passed the most restrictive abortion ban in the nation, which prohibits abortions after six weeks of pregnancy, and a bill preventing pregnant women from choosing abortion based on a fetal anomaly or genetic disorder. The state also has a "trigger ban," which would prohibit abortion entirely if Roe v. Wade were to be overturned.

Lawmakers are currently considering two "fetal personhood" measures that would effectively ban abortion in the state and complicate the legality of birth control, stem cell research and in vitro fertilization. Hawken said the personhood bills are so extreme that she and approximately 10 of her Republican colleagues in the state legislature -- both men and women -- were inspired to speak out in defense of women's rights.

"North Dakota hasn't even passed a primary seatbelt law, but we have the most invasive attack on womens health anywhere," she said. "I got a letter yesterday from a pharmacist who said, 'We don't want to be in jail because we prescribed something!' We're spending an inordinate amount of time on social or personal issues, however you want to put it, but we haven't done anything on property tax relief, higher education funding, fixing the roads. There are all kinds of other things we need to be doing besides this."

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Full article here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/21/north-dakota-abortion-_n_2926858.html

And an additional new article on the link below...

North Dakota Republicans Will Join Pro-Choice Rally To Protest New Abortion Restrictions
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/03/22/1760521/nd-republicans-oppose-abortion-bans/

olddots

(10,237 posts)

3. What will they come up with next ? Is Mitt Romney a person ? I think not

Reply to PennsylvaniaMatt (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 07:03 PM

Mar 2013

Its hard to consider the slugs that come up with this crap as people . "Corporations are people my friend "

SunSeeker

(51,508 posts)

4. K&R

Reply to PennsylvaniaMatt (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 07:08 PM

Mar 2013

RainDog

(28,784 posts)

5. This is religious extremism

Reply to PennsylvaniaMatt (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 07:54 PM

Mar 2013

that is no different than what we see in other religious extremist organizations throughout the world. The people promoting this have more in common with the Taliban than they do with American values.

PennsylvaniaMatt

(966 posts)

6. That was the first thing that I thought also....

Reply to RainDog (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 07:55 PM

Mar 2013

This is the height of absurdity.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)

7. Religious belief is not science nor is the legislature the venue

Reply to PennsylvaniaMatt (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 07:58 PM

Mar 2013

The legislature is not the venue to promote your religious beliefs. The majority of Americans support Roe v. Wade and Republicans continue to lose voters every time they pander to religious extremists.

I hope this destroys both them and the religious sects they adhere to.

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)

8. I have been screaming my bloody head off for 25 years over the threat

Reply to PennsylvaniaMatt (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 08:06 PM

Mar 2013

that the concept of fetal personhood poses to women's very freedom.

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)

9. They mandate that a clump of cells is a "person" and a woman is not

Reply to PennsylvaniaMatt (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 09:16 PM

Mar 2013

How....TALIBAN

sheshe2

(83,637 posts)

10. Excellent, Matt

Reply to PennsylvaniaMatt (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 09:31 PM

Mar 2013

you are on a roll tonight!

My thoughts?

From my Journal:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021881945

Thank you for the OP!

sheshe

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)

11. What I know.

Reply to PennsylvaniaMatt (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 10:10 PM

Mar 2013

Is that stuff is not happening in states where democrats have significant clout, like the fucking ability to sustain vetoes. Another FACT that again puts Nader's claim of no difference between democrats and republicans to pure lie.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)

12. The ERA

Reply to PennsylvaniaMatt (Original post)

Sat Mar 23, 2013, 02:48 PM

Mar 2013

needs to be passed pronto. Don't you love how women's 'personhood' is skipped over entirely in order to control reproduction? These laws put women into servitude.

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)

13. Penis to have "personhood" too.......

Reply to PennsylvaniaMatt (Original post)

Sat Mar 23, 2013, 02:55 PM

Mar 2013

I know ...I know ...mind of its own ...blah blah blah

Bake

(21,977 posts)

14. The anti-choice people are relentless.

Reply to PennsylvaniaMatt (Original post)

Sat Mar 23, 2013, 04:40 PM

Mar 2013

We need to be even more relentless.

Bake

CrispyQ

(36,417 posts)

15. As a Colorado voter who has seen this on the ballot a few times,

Reply to PennsylvaniaMatt (Original post)

Sat Mar 23, 2013, 05:21 PM

Mar 2013

I AM ABSOLUTELY FED UP WITH REPUBLICAN ASSHOLES TRYING TO LEGISLATE MY BODY.

PennsylvaniaMatt

(966 posts)

16. Exactly...

Reply to CrispyQ (Reply #15)

Sat Mar 23, 2013, 05:28 PM

Mar 2013

Even though it has FAR reaching ramifications because of the legal wording of the bill, and because of that, they are struck down by the voters, even the Republican party simply putting these referendums on the ballot just illustrates how extreme they are.

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