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Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 07:49 AM Mar 2013

Why Are TV Remotes So Terrible?

Let's call it the baby sitter's dilemma.

If you go to someone's house and pick up the TV remote, chances are, you won't know how it works. You know the situation's bad when even a tech writer who also majored in physics at an Ivy League school is confused by her own TV remote.

"It's unbearable to me," moans Ars Technica writer Casey Johnston, of her remote's many cryptic buttons. "Sub.code? Comp/mix? I couldn't even tell you what one of those things do, but then assign them to the same button? It just doesn't make any sense."

So why, at a moment when both technology and TV shows are so terrific, are interfaces so clumsy and counterintuitive?

http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2013/03/26/175262114/why-are-tv-remotes-so-terrible

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Why Are TV Remotes So Terrible? (Original Post) Sherman A1 Mar 2013 OP
LOL trumad Mar 2013 #1
I think we have a box with 5 of them Sherman A1 Mar 2013 #5
You've just pipi_k Mar 2013 #20
Lack of competition in the marketplace. n/t FSogol Mar 2013 #2
I don't think so. Too MUCH competition. randome Mar 2013 #11
I agree with you LiberalEsto Mar 2013 #16
"and TV shows are so terrific" Chuuku Davis Mar 2013 #3
Yeah I liked that too Sherman A1 Mar 2013 #4
Not sure if you're snarking...but trumad Mar 2013 #7
I believe we will have to agree to disagree Sherman A1 Mar 2013 #13
I pretty much exclusively use Logitech Harmony remotes. EOTE Mar 2013 #6
I'm thinking it will be all app based soon anyway. trumad Mar 2013 #8
There are a number of good remote apps available. EOTE Mar 2013 #21
logitech remotes are wonderful Betty88 Mar 2013 #10
Transferring is another reason the Harmony line is great. EOTE Mar 2013 #22
A third of the buttons on our cable remote are for a DVR that they did not provide Kolesar Mar 2013 #9
And while we're at it... Blue_Adept Mar 2013 #12
My ATT Uverse remote is the worst POS I've ever used. tridim Mar 2013 #14
Good design costs time and money, that's why. bemildred Mar 2013 #15
I used to spend hours programming a universal remote to do everything. I gave up. onehandle Mar 2013 #17
No universal industry standard. n/t Bonhomme Richard Mar 2013 #18
Evolve or die, human. N/t Shankapotomus Mar 2013 #19
Simple solution rusty fender Mar 2013 #23
I've spent a bundle on so called "Universal Remotes" lpbk2713 Mar 2013 #24
Rabbit ears and one remote kairos12 Mar 2013 #25
Which is as the article suggests Sherman A1 Mar 2013 #26

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
5. I think we have a box with 5 of them
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:06 AM
Mar 2013

on the coffee table. One for every thing that hooks up to the TV & the TV itself.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
20. You've just
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:52 AM
Mar 2013

described my home as well.

Remotes everywhere for every device. Not only that, but there are remotes to control the lights and the motion alarms in the yard and driveway.

This place is so wired up with gadgets that I've jokingly told Mr Pipi that I can't ever kick him out because I wouldn't know how to run all this stuff.



 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. I don't think so. Too MUCH competition.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:25 AM
Mar 2013

The only way a company can distinguish itself is to manufacture more and more complicated devices so it looks 'new' and 'fashionable'.

This goes back to my theme of too many people trying to make their mark on the marketplace. A dense population breeds ever more complexity.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
16. I agree with you
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:04 AM
Mar 2013

Most of us are stuck with a single provider of cable or satellite TV services, each with their own receivers and remotes. We can't vote with our feet because alternatives don't exist - these companies have monopolies in their "service" areas. They have no motivation factor to improve their products or services, because the politicians who gave them their monopolies are usually in their pockets.

I've also read that these TV receivers are among the most energy-inefficient devices in people's homes. They waste gobs of electricity, but nothing is done to make them more energy-efficient because there is no incentive for the cable suppliers to do so. It would only cost them more money to purchase improved receivers and distribute them.

We need a huge national overhaul of the rules regulating the cable/satellite industry to get rid of these monopolies and bring real competition to the market. THEN we'd see some serious improvements.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
4. Yeah I liked that too
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:05 AM
Mar 2013

but, everyone is entitled to their point of view. Nevertheless, shows being good or bad, remotes are overall just miserable.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
7. Not sure if you're snarking...but
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:09 AM
Mar 2013

TV has never been better in mho...

From Breaking Bad, to Game of Thrones, Shameless, Dexter, Boardwalk Empire, The Following, and on and on...

I'm loving today's shows.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
13. I believe we will have to agree to disagree
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:58 AM
Mar 2013

on content quality, but it is and always has been in the eye of the beholder.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
6. I pretty much exclusively use Logitech Harmony remotes.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:07 AM
Mar 2013

They require a little bit of technical expertise to setup (they have an internet based setup utility), but once they're setup, they're very easy and intuitive to use.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
21. There are a number of good remote apps available.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:56 AM
Mar 2013

But the ones that utilize wifi often have a lot of lag associated with them. I find that remote apps right now are good for home theater PCs, but not much else. I'm sure that will change in a year or so.

Betty88

(717 posts)
10. logitech remotes are wonderful
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:13 AM
Mar 2013

like EOTE said you have to spend a little time setting them up but once that's done they are very simple to use. And if you upgrade or replace the remote, even if its a different model it will transfer over the settings and be ready to go in 5 min.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
22. Transferring is another reason the Harmony line is great.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:59 AM
Mar 2013

What a bummer it is to buy a new $100+ remote only to have to spend an hour plus programming it before you can use it. Storing your settings on the internet is really a brilliant idea. I recently had to swap out my Harmony for a newer model and even though I'm a bit of a techie, it was very much appreciated just being able to download my old setup to my new remote.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
9. A third of the buttons on our cable remote are for a DVR that they did not provide
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:13 AM
Mar 2013

The damn thing is black and it is hard to distinguish without my bifocals.

And why the hell do I have to press four buttons to watch channel 3?

tridim

(45,358 posts)
14. My ATT Uverse remote is the worst POS I've ever used.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:59 AM
Mar 2013

But to be fair, half of the problem is the DVR (I think). Lagggggggg is the norm.

Press "up" once, it might go up once, or it might do nothing, or it might go up twice, or it might go up three times. Every press is random. Traversing the program guide is almost comedic, trying to scroll to a show you want to watch takes about four additional keypresses on average than necessary. It's maddening.

I'm dumping ATT as soon as I can because of this issue.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
15. Good design costs time and money, that's why.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:04 AM
Mar 2013

And all of the marketing God's don't give a crap about what happens after the sale.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
17. I used to spend hours programming a universal remote to do everything. I gave up.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:14 AM
Mar 2013

Now we have four remotes. However, our iPhones and iPads can duplicate most of the functionality with device apps.

Pretty close to abandoning the physical remote.

We have an app to control our Apple TV, Cable Box, and TV.

But not one to control the surround sound amp or Blu-ray/DVD player.

But the disc player is never used, so that's not important.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
23. Simple solution
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 10:29 AM
Mar 2013

Just buy a $700 remote. My brother and his wife did this. A technician comes to your house to program it=one remote! My used, rear-projection tv cost $240!

lpbk2713

(42,752 posts)
24. I've spent a bundle on so called "Universal Remotes"
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 10:33 AM
Mar 2013



I was hoping to find one R/C that would work on all devices but it just doesn't seem to exist.


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