I take the point, but the idea that we could beat them in a war was never the question. The question is, how much damage and destruction can they cause if they restart hostilities.

it would be a huge mistake for dear leaderson to launch hostilities against the south...

He supposedly has half a dozen nukes and decent short range missile capability.

Take out the two Air Force bases and then target the largest troop concentrations with the other 4 or so nukes and they might take the whole peninsula. That's worst case and would probably result in us nuking them in retaliation but it would abruptly destroy one of the largest economies in Asia in the process.

A non-WMD war would also see North Korea take probably half or more of the south before we were able to put a halt to their advance, destroying much of the country including Seoul in the process. If I am not mistaken, most of US planning in the event of a full attack from the North involves the realistic possibility that the North takes all of the South and we have to fight from Japan to retake the South via landings, etc.

those track ball mice are really slow and cumbersome.
they'd be lit up before they get the hang of it!

I don't like using a mouse.

Excuse me for not going along with you or the crowd ...and whoever else "we" might refer to.

Interesting to see your leap there.

is. You then leaped to the attack.

If you need me to find a link, I believe that it can be found. Either way, it doesnt change the fact that I was quoting what I believed to be the military planning, and you attacked it and took it out of context.

basically you were quoting yourself. I resent any all inclusive "quotes" where I may be one of those included. I don't want any part of another bullshit run up to another war and I don't appreciate the efforts of anyone who stokes the fear of war. When "we" refers to a bunch of sociopath military personnel then I would rather that be defined better. If indeed you were really referring to some group of sociopath military personnel then good for them ...and you. I quit believing anything they (we) say after Iraq and especially after the Jessica Lynch hero fable.

They said Ford made tanks were going to South Korea. From an article in 2010, this was planned:

Army eyes industry for energy efficiency alliances



...While visiting the Army's Tank Automotive Research, Development and Engineering Center, Aug. 26, Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan, left, and Under Secretary of the Army Joseph W. Westphal, center, met with Steve Knott, of TARDEC's ground systems.

While visiting Ford Motor Company's research division, Aug. 27, Under Secretary of the Army Joseph W. Westphal and Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan met with Ford executives to discuss the Army's drive towards energy efficiency. During the Aug. 26-27 visit...

http://www.army.mil/article/44529/Army_eyes_industry_for_energy_efficiency_alliances/

Sorry but they kept repeating the same words. Our tax dollars at work, I guess. I really do not want to see anything happen to South Korea as I know a number of people from there who count on the USA to protect them. This is a long-standing obligation, and the North saber rattling this way doesn't help us get out from underneath this.

South Korea has the military strength to conquer North Korea very easily in a conventional war.

They haven't done so, because in the end you own North Korea.

So absent a nuclear attack, there will not be a need for an invasion. That doesn't mean the US isn't gonna plan for one - another country could decide to help North Korea. But in a war between just the two Koreas, the South wins....and that's not taking into consideration the US troops stationed in South Korea. However, Soul would be badly devastated. And the winner owns North Korea.

The technology we developed to manufacture the first nuclear weapons may not have been accomplished with computers but it simply untrue to say that the technology required was somehow inferior to even old computers is absurd. The canyons at Hanford and the K-25 plant at Oak Ridge are all the evidence needed to support my claim.

Didn't seem to stop us from developing two types of fission weapon.

that goes to the very top.

Back before World War II, Japanese navel officers had traveled to the United States and didn't want anything to do with going to war with the US. Japanese army officers knew only about their conquests in Manchuria and China. They pushed for the bombing of Pearl Harbor....

What Japanese general thought attacking the US was a good idea? Didn't they know the US population, geography, resources? How could they have thought they'd do anything other than get their asses kicked?

We won't be hearing from NK for a while...

he's probably got a few games there, including ms pacman

What happens if you dial up and get a touch tone menu?

To verify that a nuclear war is in progress, please press "one." To request technical assistance, press "two." To speak with a commanding officer press "three." To repeat this menu, press "four." Otherwise, please stay on the line and an operator will assist you. The approximate wait time is 35 minutes...

DOH!

the modified KC-135s that flew around in big circles over Omaha 24/7, loaded with the latest equipment (circa 1961), a crew of radio operators to collect the "chatter", and three general officers who carried the command codes to launch a nuclear strike on the USSR.

It sounded so primitive, but along with Cheyenne Mountain, the SAC control center under Offutt AFB, and the various land and sea-situated nukes pointed toward the East, it was more than capable of starting WWIII.

Without a computer in sight.

Loved your post - made me laugh.
*I think the bungee cord is to keep the touristas away from the equipment these days.

casters on that tool box says a lot as well.

The most frightening kind of leader.

(yes, I know it's a trackball)

Or another caption might read,"It's called PONG".

..or Pacman maybe?

Not only that, the place the photo was taken almost has the look of a parking lot. Does look like a few of these guys have some nice shoes.

...to launch them is not such a sticking point for me. One of my relatives was very close to the development of the hydrogen bomb and he said his Apple IIe in the early 1980's could run rings around all the shit they had clicking and whirring in Los Alamos during H-bomb development.

PB

the computing power of a common microwave oven was more than enough to land Apollo 11 on the moon...(or something like that)

and how it could be used to program missiles.

I thought that was some kind of bullshit urban legend to cover for Sony's pushing back the release date for the USA or something...

I can tell by looking at it, the only thing 'modern' is the trackball mouse and keyboard!

Dig Dug is a lot harder than it looks...

Nt

The officers around KJU are in their best uniforms, but all of the uniforms are slightly too big -- they bag at the shoulders, are loose in the waist, the cuffs and sleeves are too wide, the collars gape. Those are all signs of weight loss. Compare to pictures of officers from the time before the early 90s famine (at KIS's funeral, for example.) NK's tailors take pride in their skills, so this isn't the result of sloppy work.

If high ranking, well placed officers are not maintaining their weight, NK is in worse shape than they're letting on.

Might indicate desperation. Which could lead to them doing something dumb.

the time they let the press in to watch their test, it looked like it was straight out of a 1950's sci-fi movie set.

Tsk. tsk. They're just adjusting the strings patch, no doubt.

I know, I shouldn't make fun...but that was the first thing I thought when I saw this. The Dear Leader playing the Mellotron. Getting ready for his rehearsal with King Crimson...ok I'll stop now.

...analog

You forgot to anti-alias, and your perspective to infinity is way off.

We're in trouble now!

they still have technology from the FORTIES on some of those ships!

and Un is really diggin' the beat! He's tapping his feet!