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chillfactor
(7,573 posts)for her baby's death?
but somehow I doubt it. We shall see.
riqster
(13,986 posts)But too many people get off on doing the "liberal church lady" thing. Because they are so superior to the crime victims...
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)somehow that's relevant to her plotting to kill her own baby.
They knee-jerked to the Susan Smith scenario, and tripled-down.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)that she didn't pay them to shoot her baby."
Fucking ghouls.
rollin74
(1,971 posts)MineralMan
(146,254 posts)Can we now stop pointing at the mother? I certainly hope so. Let her grieve the loss of her child.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)to shoot her baby.
MineralMan
(146,254 posts)I know that some people like to look for the least likely theory, but this is ridiculous. Occam's Razor would seem to point to the horses in this story, rather than the zebra, I think.
Let the poor woman grieve her loss and leave her alone. That's my advice for the Nancy Grace wannabes.
John2
(2,730 posts)two teenagers raised around violence and got it from their parents. It seems like they picked a defenseless female, also struggling to make ends meet, to prey on. They probably picked on her because they thought she was easy and nobody would care, but it got publicity. I think that is the case, because I have come into contact with kids and gangs myself. I bet they been in contact with the law before also. They just run around like ruffians. If he is truly the murderer, it appears he has no contact with his father and was born to a 19 year old mother. I suspect it is another case of kids in trouble with the law, having kids that do the same. The most important thing to them was money and not the life of an innocent child. It goes back to the gun issue and if those people living in upscaled communities care. I just wonder where he got the gun and how he was able to obtain it? It is probably a matter of the whole community getting together and dealing with marauding teens. I would check and see if the gun was registered or stolen. One way or another, I would come down on the persons allowing them to even obtain a gun.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)John2
(2,730 posts)agree on something.
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)as the facts turn against them. Just like any good "truthers".
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)to shoot her and her baby so she could collect on the fat $5-10K insurance policy" with the next step being "why didn't that crazy woman throw herself in front of the bullets meant for her child?"
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)...the Susan Smith story is really etched in the national psyche...
Problem is--giving those who jump to conclusions a little slack--we are inundated with bizarre reality stories daily. But wait a minute (or two) before indicting the victim?
The problem is poverty, bad kids with bad examples all around them...and
GUNS.
Put the owner of this gun in jail for a LONG time. The only way to have a hope of stopping this.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Here's some of the others who died from guns today (Joe Nocera blog, New York Times) I see he hasn't listed the kid who was killed while his father cleaned his gun in the house in North Carolina.
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Christopher Ryan Benson, an Army reservist in Goochland County, Va., accidentally killed himself while playing a Russian roulette-type game at a party late Thursday. 20-year-old David Cash Raymond furnished a .22-caliber revolver and said it wasnt loaded, but Benson, 20, fatally shot himself. Police charged Raymond with reckless handling of a firearm.
NBC 12
A man allegedly shot the mother of his child four times after an argument at her Sandy Springs, Ga., home late Sunday afternoon. Police said their 4-year-old boy was nearby at the time of the shooting. Matthew Terry broke into Shawn Crews home and was waiting for her when she arrived with the boy. The suspect fled in a car with New York license plates. He is considered armed and dangerous.
Examiner.com
A man called police and told them he shot and killed two of his adult children early Sunday morning in Puyallup, Wash. Michael League, 69, admitted shooting his children early Sunday with a .22-caliber pistol as they slept. Danielle Faucett, 43, died Sunday; Dennis League, 46, is hospitalized with critical injuries. Two grandchildren, 6 and 7 years old, and the suspects wife were unharmed.
Obviously, some deep-seated family issues led to this, the police chief said.
Seattle Times
A man was killed in a home invasion in Davenport, Fla, Monday afternoon. 30-year-old Jesse Allen Shivers was shot after two armed men forced their way into the home and demanded to see one of the people inside. The suspects reportedly began arguing with Shivers and 26-year-old Christina Assad, who was also in the home, before one pulled out a gun. The police do not believe this was a random attack.
WTSP
29-year-old Marcus Scott was shot in an apparent case of road rage in Mesquite, Tex., early Monday. Scott was traveling westbound on IH-30 and called police after spying 23-year-old Leonard Christopher Young driving erratically. Scott followed Young, who stopped his vehicle, took out a handgun and fired at Scotts vehicle 15 times, striking him in the head. Scott is in stable condition. Young was arrested.
KZTV
Heather Maples, 34, was shot and killed by her husband in Canton, Tex., Sunday after he found her at the home of another man. Larry Maples, 44, entered the home of Moses Clemente, 47, through an unlocked door around 6 a.m. Sunday. Maples shot both his wife and Clemente, who is in critical condition, and then called 911.
Houston Chronicle
A 10-year-old boy was among those injured in a shooting at a Long Beach, Calif., gas station Saturday evening. Surveillance footage showed four men running through a gas station around 8 p.m. when shots struck the 10-year-old boy sitting in his parents SUV. Another bystander was hit by the crossfire; his injuries were non-life threatening.
NBC 4
A Toledo, Ohio, woman who was stalked by a former boyfriend was fatally shot on Sunday. Kaitlin Gerber, 20, was shot and killed at the Southland Shopping Center parking lot by her one-time boyfriend, Jashua Perz, 29, who then killed himself after a five-hour standoff with police.
Toledo Blade
A 19-year-old man was killed and a 30-year-old man wounded in a shooting Monday afternoon in Hartford, Conn. Police are looking for a man who was spotted running from the scene. The fatality was Hartfords second homicide this year.
Hartford Courant
Victor Martinez, 42, was shot in the head Saturday night at his home rural Mullica Township, N.J. He is in critical condition. Police are still investigating and have not released a possible motive. Residents were upset.
I moved here to give a better place for my kids, a neighbor said. I cant believe this happened here.
Press of Atlantic City
The Hammer Report: An Athens, Ga., man assaulted a roommate on Sunday afternoon by striking him in the head with a claw hammer during a dispute over aluminum foil. Dan Dewitt Jones, 46, was under the influence of drugs when he attacked the 36-year-old victim at Tivoli Apartments. The victim suffered heavy bleeding from the head and received medical treatment at the scene.