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cali

(114,904 posts)
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 09:46 AM Mar 2013

Steubenville's NAACP President Says Rape Victim Was Drunk And Willing

In shocking comments, the president of the Steubenville chapter of the NAACP places the blame for the rape case that has shocked the nation on the 16-year-old victim.

Royal Mayo, a lifelong resident of the Ohio city that gained national infamy following the rape of the girl by two Steubenville High School football players, says that attention should be focused on the role of the young woman, whom he calls the "alleged victim," saying she was drunk and wanted to go out with one of the football players. He also claims that other teens involved in the incident were let off easy, because they were "well-connected."

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In a phone interview with the International Business Times, Mayo described the 16-year-old girl as the “alleged victim” and said she might have been having consensual sex. “She said her mother brought her to the party, at 3 o'clock, with a bottle of vodka,” Mayo said. “Where did you get it, young lady? You brought it from home? Where’d you get it? You came to the party with your mother.”

Mayo added that she might have been a willing participant, apparently unfazed by the inflammatory nature of such statements. “They’re alleging she got raped; she’s acknowledging that she wanted to leave with Trent. Her friends say she pushed them away as she went and got into the car, twice telling them, ‘I know what I’m doing; I’m going with Trent,’” Mayo said.

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http://www.ibtimes.com/steubenvilles-naacp-president-says-rape-victim-was-drunk-willing-exclusive-1149517

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Steubenville's NAACP President Says Rape Victim Was Drunk And Willing (Original Post) cali Mar 2013 OP
Not only is that statement ignorant, it's a contradiction. no_hypocrisy Mar 2013 #1
Was he drunk when he said that??!! n/t Pryderi Mar 2013 #4
So people who drive while drunk aren't really responsible for their actions?? Bandit Mar 2013 #23
What does drunk driving have to sufrommich Mar 2013 #24
Message auto-removed jesus_marley Mar 2013 #41
Drunk drivers plan on driving while drunk,before sufrommich Mar 2013 #43
Thank you...and the fact that you even had to explain it to that troll joeybee12 Mar 2013 #50
Yep.Unfortunately the troll is not alone sufrommich Mar 2013 #51
Being drunk and being passed out unconscious are two different things arcane1 Mar 2013 #46
You don't belong here at DU! In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #47
+1. nt. sufrommich Mar 2013 #49
Do you understand the legal and moral difference between geek tragedy Mar 2013 #26
Wow. redqueen Mar 2013 #33
This isnt about responsibility. She was not in a condition to give consent. nm rhett o rick Mar 2013 #54
Utterly vile.Another case of "she was sufrommich Mar 2013 #2
By that logic, the dead violated by a necrophiliac.... were "asking for it".... hlthe2b Mar 2013 #3
Note to NAACP: Please unmember this guy MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #5
Dangerous statement to make. JaneyVee Mar 2013 #6
Memo to Royal Mayo: sadbear Mar 2013 #7
good gravy ... what is up with this sh*t ? littlewolf Mar 2013 #8
But what was he wearing when he said that? pinboy3niner Mar 2013 #9
A position opening up in the NAACP atreides1 Mar 2013 #10
Yep. UGH as if the right wing media sh*t smears the NAACP ENOUGH already, alp227 Mar 2013 #58
Hold the Royal Mayo, please jberryhill Mar 2013 #11
Disgusting! Sissyk Mar 2013 #12
New oxymoron: drunk and willing pinboy3niner Mar 2013 #13
I'm surprised that such a small town even has a local NAACP chapter. Jamaal510 Mar 2013 #14
+1 Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #34
He's just as caught up in the aura of "football" as the rest get the red out Mar 2013 #15
Royal Mayo? Was Elite Mustard taken? RZM Mar 2013 #16
Maybe he has a brother NewJeffCT Mar 2013 #21
Ha! Goodone Gin Mar 2013 #28
blaming the victim is always inexcusable, period. nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #17
If this is true.... NCTraveler Mar 2013 #18
These issues have to be examined... CanSocDem Mar 2013 #19
This case was the exact definition of a frat house rape. aaaaaa5a Mar 2013 #20
Wow. City Lights Mar 2013 #22
Vile Idiocy, Ma'am, Is An Equal Opportunity Character Failing.... The Magistrate Mar 2013 #25
WTF!!!!!!! RandySF Mar 2013 #27
Colonel Mustard demands his resignation. Erose999 Mar 2013 #29
. Union Scribe Mar 2013 #37
time to DU the NAACP and pressure them to cut this fool frylock Mar 2013 #30
Former president and no information he's still a member. n/t Tempest Mar 2013 #55
Even good organizations are infiltrated by... 99Forever Mar 2013 #31
This Royal Mayo guy was arrested in 2007. Guess what for? KurtNYC Mar 2013 #32
What an ass... ljm2002 Mar 2013 #35
Facebook page: riqster Mar 2013 #36
Disgusting sakabatou Mar 2013 #38
Fucking bastard. n/t cynatnite Mar 2013 #39
sadly he has one point which he buried under tons of crap dsc Mar 2013 #40
Just when you ask how can the townspeople seem more scummy Rex Mar 2013 #42
Oh, brother. Really? librechik Mar 2013 #44
It's easy to see how willing she was Orrex Mar 2013 #45
This is so wrong! In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #48
Disgusting Rabid_Rabbit Mar 2013 #52
FORMER. He's making the statement as a private citizen. n/t Tempest Mar 2013 #53
Not entirely riqster Mar 2013 #57
This idiocy disproves "everyone knows what rape is" bettyellen Mar 2013 #56
Royal Mayo's head is full of mayo. n/t alp227 Mar 2013 #59
This is the norm of the popular culture of our society: radicalliberal Apr 2013 #60

no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
1. Not only is that statement ignorant, it's a contradiction.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 09:50 AM
Mar 2013

When you're drunk, you don't have the mental faculties to truly consent to sexual relations or to resist them. Intoxication reduces your judgment to where you can't think of consequences of your decisions.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
23. So people who drive while drunk aren't really responsible for their actions??
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:07 AM
Mar 2013

That is what I think I am reading here....

Response to sufrommich (Reply #24)

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
43. Drunk drivers plan on driving while drunk,before
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 01:39 PM
Mar 2013

they take that 3rd or 4th drink,they know that they've made a decision to drive impaired,they made a personal choice to drive drunk. No one makes a personal choice to get raped while drunk. Drunk drivers are not victims of another person's choices,rape victims are.There is a very simple question to ask yourself,what are the chances of a man being in danger of being raped because they've had too much to drink and why are the chances so much greater for women?

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
51. Yep.Unfortunately the troll is not alone
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 02:18 PM
Mar 2013

when it comes to victim blaming. Steubanville is just the ugly face of a popular concept.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
26. Do you understand the legal and moral difference between
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:36 AM
Mar 2013

(a) committing the criminal offense of DUI; and
(b) getting raped?

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
7. Memo to Royal Mayo:
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 09:59 AM
Mar 2013

The rapist isn't being persecuted because he's black. He was prosecuted because he's a rapist.

atreides1

(16,072 posts)
10. A position opening up in the NAACP
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 10:09 AM
Mar 2013

If the NAACP doesn't show this guy the door then they will have to own his comments...and the right will use his words like a club!!!

alp227

(32,018 posts)
58. Yep. UGH as if the right wing media sh*t smears the NAACP ENOUGH already,
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 06:12 PM
Mar 2013

and this stupid man HAD to open his potty mouth.

Sissyk

(12,665 posts)
12. Disgusting!
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 10:11 AM
Mar 2013

She is not an "alleged" victim. She is THE victim. The boys have been convicted in a court of law. They are convicted rapist and she is the victim.

get the red out

(13,461 posts)
15. He's just as caught up in the aura of "football" as the rest
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 10:29 AM
Mar 2013

That's my guess, he's just like so much of that town, willing to say and believe the most horrific things to "support the team".

And Stubenville isn't unlike other places in the country either.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
16. Royal Mayo? Was Elite Mustard taken?
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 10:32 AM
Mar 2013

Sorry, dumbass. These ain't the Scottsboro Boys.

Be interesting to see if the national organization cuts him loose.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
18. If this is true....
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 10:41 AM
Mar 2013

this guy is no longer allegedly stupid. It has been confirmed. And he asked for that.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
19. These issues have to be examined...
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 10:42 AM
Mar 2013


...if society is to solve the problems of a violent culture. It's easy to focus on the over-blown rhetoric from both sides while ignoring the deep, institutional dysfunction that is creating these personal tragedies.

We have to ask ourselves, eventually, what are our beloved institutions teaching our children, that they show such inhumanity to each other.

Sport's "cult's"....in my experience, do not celebrate 'the individual', they celebrate each other. In various sub-cultures of fan dom, team loyalty and ideology they 'toast their own greatness' with over-blown rhetoric and inappropriate 'end-zone dances'.

Now that they seen fit to shine the light on another equally dysfunctional social institution, the family, and hopefully on the influence of the local sub-cultures. I think that focusing on the 'crazies' is a distraction to the real issues of social change.


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aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
20. This case was the exact definition of a frat house rape.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 10:58 AM
Mar 2013

My god, they have guys ON VIDEO talking about how dead she was.

If a person passes out drunk and somebody goes into their pants and steals their wallet it is a crime called theft.

If a person passes out drunk and somebody goes into their pants for other reasons its called a controversy.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
31. Even good organizations are infiltrated by...
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:56 AM
Mar 2013

... idiots and asses. Time to show this idiotic ass the door.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
35. What an ass...
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 12:30 PM
Mar 2013

...does he not realize there are videos of the young woman being dragged around unconscious, and of young men making remarks about how "dead" she was when the rapes took place? Does he think she agreed to be urinated on? Does he think it's okay for young men to "drop her off" unconscious in her own front yard? A person that drunk could die from alcohol poisoning, or could turn over and choke on their own vomit and die (it was reported by some that she was drugged without her knowledge, making that risk greater). These things happen. Those young men are damned lucky the charges were "only" rape.

This alleged man should be booted out of the NAACP without delay. Unless the NAACP would like to be known as an organization that condones rape and the degradation of women.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
40. sadly he has one point which he buried under tons of crap
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 01:06 PM
Mar 2013

I do agree that some people who should have been charged weren't and that it is likely they weren't due to being connected. Given all the crap he buried that point under no one will discuss that issue sadly. Maybe Dewine can fix that to some extent.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
42. Just when you ask how can the townspeople seem more scummy
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 01:38 PM
Mar 2013

then the last outrage...along comes another one to lower the bar yet again. EVERYONE in this case was 'well connected' except for the rape victim it appears.

Sounds like a lot of petty scumbags live in Steubenville and cannot handle facts and evidence. What a vile place to live.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
44. Oh, brother. Really?
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 01:49 PM
Mar 2013

more proof to me about how much trouble we will have if we ever manage to elect a woman president. We thought we had trouble with a black president, but....

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
45. It's easy to see how willing she was
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 01:52 PM
Mar 2013

After all, when you're being carried from party to party, naked and unconscious, doesn't that usually imply consent?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
56. This idiocy disproves "everyone knows what rape is"
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 02:59 PM
Mar 2013

When you have the media reporting such ridiculous statements, when elected officials repeat similar offensive statements...
We have a cultural problem that indocates wider education is desperately needed.
Too many people out there muddying the waters.

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