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In shocking comments, the president of the Steubenville chapter of the NAACP places the blame for the rape case that has shocked the nation on the 16-year-old victim.
Royal Mayo, a lifelong resident of the Ohio city that gained national infamy following the rape of the girl by two Steubenville High School football players, says that attention should be focused on the role of the young woman, whom he calls the "alleged victim," saying she was drunk and wanted to go out with one of the football players. He also claims that other teens involved in the incident were let off easy, because they were "well-connected."
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In a phone interview with the International Business Times, Mayo described the 16-year-old girl as the alleged victim and said she might have been having consensual sex. She said her mother brought her to the party, at 3 o'clock, with a bottle of vodka, Mayo said. Where did you get it, young lady? You brought it from home? Whered you get it? You came to the party with your mother.
Mayo added that she might have been a willing participant, apparently unfazed by the inflammatory nature of such statements. Theyre alleging she got raped; shes acknowledging that she wanted to leave with Trent. Her friends say she pushed them away as she went and got into the car, twice telling them, I know what Im doing; Im going with Trent, Mayo said.
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http://www.ibtimes.com/steubenvilles-naacp-president-says-rape-victim-was-drunk-willing-exclusive-1149517
no_hypocrisy
(46,080 posts)When you're drunk, you don't have the mental faculties to truly consent to sexual relations or to resist them. Intoxication reduces your judgment to where you can't think of consequences of your decisions.
Pryderi
(6,772 posts)Bandit
(21,475 posts)That is what I think I am reading here....
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)do with rape?
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sufrommich
(22,871 posts)they take that 3rd or 4th drink,they know that they've made a decision to drive impaired,they made a personal choice to drive drunk. No one makes a personal choice to get raped while drunk. Drunk drivers are not victims of another person's choices,rape victims are.There is a very simple question to ask yourself,what are the chances of a man being in danger of being raped because they've had too much to drink and why are the chances so much greater for women?
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)makes me
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)when it comes to victim blaming. Steubanville is just the ugly face of a popular concept.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)It's not rocket science.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)(a) committing the criminal offense of DUI; and
(b) getting raped?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)asking for it".Shame on him.
hlthe2b
(102,225 posts)MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)sadbear
(4,340 posts)The rapist isn't being persecuted because he's black. He was prosecuted because he's a rapist.
littlewolf
(3,813 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)He must've been ASKING for someone to make him say that.
atreides1
(16,072 posts)If the NAACP doesn't show this guy the door then they will have to own his comments...and the right will use his words like a club!!!
alp227
(32,018 posts)and this stupid man HAD to open his potty mouth.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Sissyk
(12,665 posts)She is not an "alleged" victim. She is THE victim. The boys have been convicted in a court of law. They are convicted rapist and she is the victim.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)I expect that chapter has already gotten a long, lengthy call from Baltimore....
get the red out
(13,461 posts)That's my guess, he's just like so much of that town, willing to say and believe the most horrific things to "support the team".
And Stubenville isn't unlike other places in the country either.
RZM
(8,556 posts)Sorry, dumbass. These ain't the Scottsboro Boys.
Be interesting to see if the national organization cuts him loose.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Grey Poupon?
Gin
(7,212 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)this guy is no longer allegedly stupid. It has been confirmed. And he asked for that.
CanSocDem
(3,286 posts)...if society is to solve the problems of a violent culture. It's easy to focus on the over-blown rhetoric from both sides while ignoring the deep, institutional dysfunction that is creating these personal tragedies.
We have to ask ourselves, eventually, what are our beloved institutions teaching our children, that they show such inhumanity to each other.
Sport's "cult's"....in my experience, do not celebrate 'the individual', they celebrate each other. In various sub-cultures of fan dom, team loyalty and ideology they 'toast their own greatness' with over-blown rhetoric and inappropriate 'end-zone dances'.
Now that they seen fit to shine the light on another equally dysfunctional social institution, the family, and hopefully on the influence of the local sub-cultures. I think that focusing on the 'crazies' is a distraction to the real issues of social change.
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aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)My god, they have guys ON VIDEO talking about how dead she was.
If a person passes out drunk and somebody goes into their pants and steals their wallet it is a crime called theft.
If a person passes out drunk and somebody goes into their pants for other reasons its called a controversy.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)All I've got is !
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)RandySF
(58,770 posts)Erose999
(5,624 posts)So glad I wasn't drinking anything just now!
frylock
(34,825 posts)Tempest
(14,591 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)... idiots and asses. Time to show this idiotic ass the door.
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)And btw, who named this guy? the menu designers from Burger King?
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...does he not realize there are videos of the young woman being dragged around unconscious, and of young men making remarks about how "dead" she was when the rapes took place? Does he think she agreed to be urinated on? Does he think it's okay for young men to "drop her off" unconscious in her own front yard? A person that drunk could die from alcohol poisoning, or could turn over and choke on their own vomit and die (it was reported by some that she was drugged without her knowledge, making that risk greater). These things happen. Those young men are damned lucky the charges were "only" rape.
This alleged man should be booted out of the NAACP without delay. Unless the NAACP would like to be known as an organization that condones rape and the degradation of women.
riqster
(13,986 posts)sakabatou
(42,148 posts)cynatnite
(31,011 posts)dsc
(52,155 posts)I do agree that some people who should have been charged weren't and that it is likely they weren't due to being connected. Given all the crap he buried that point under no one will discuss that issue sadly. Maybe Dewine can fix that to some extent.
Rex
(65,616 posts)then the last outrage...along comes another one to lower the bar yet again. EVERYONE in this case was 'well connected' except for the rape victim it appears.
Sounds like a lot of petty scumbags live in Steubenville and cannot handle facts and evidence. What a vile place to live.
librechik
(30,674 posts)more proof to me about how much trouble we will have if we ever manage to elect a woman president. We thought we had trouble with a black president, but....
Orrex
(63,203 posts)After all, when you're being carried from party to party, naked and unconscious, doesn't that usually imply consent?
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Rabid_Rabbit
(131 posts)Disgusting comments but I doubt he will be held responsible for them.
Tempest
(14,591 posts)riqster
(13,986 posts)If you click the link, you'll find he is still on the board.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)When you have the media reporting such ridiculous statements, when elected officials repeat similar offensive statements...
We have a cultural problem that indocates wider education is desperately needed.
Too many people out there muddying the waters.
alp227
(32,018 posts)radicalliberal
(907 posts)Football is sacred . . .
Victims be damned!