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babylonsister

(170,962 posts)
Sat May 31, 2014, 08:48 PM May 2014

The Obama Doctrine Is to Not Have a Doctrine

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2014/05/obama-doctrine-not-have-doctrine


The Obama Doctrine Is to Not Have a Doctrine

—By Kevin Drum
| Fri May 30, 2014 2:42 PM EDT


Fareed Zakaria takes on the cult of foreign policy toughness—far too common even among centrists and some liberals—that instinctively equates military force with decisiveness and everything else with hesitancy and weakness:

Obama is battling a knee-jerk sentiment in Washington in which the only kind of international leadership that means anything is the use of military force. “Just because we have the best hammer does not mean that every problem is a nail,” he said in his speech Wednesday at West Point. A similar sentiment was expressed in the farewell address of President Dwight D. Eisenhower, a strong leader who refused to intervene in the Suez crisis, the French collapse in Vietnam, two Taiwan Strait confrontations and the Hungarian uprising of 1956. At the time, many critics blasted the president for his passivity and wished that he would be more interventionist. A Democratic Advisory Council committee headed by Acheson called Eisenhower’s foreign policy “weak, vacillating, and tardy.” But Eisenhower kept his powder dry, confident that force was not the only way to show strength. “I’ll tell you what leadership is,” he told his speechwriter. “It’s persuasion — and conciliation — and education — and patience. It’s long, slow, tough work. That’s the only kind of leadership I know — or believe in — or will practice.”

Maybe that’s the Obama Doctrine.


Please spare me from more doctrines. But Zakaria is basically saying that the Obama Doctrine is not to let yourself get seduced by the straitjacket of doctrines. I guess that's a doctrine I can live with.

You know, the one time I felt a little sorry for Sarah Palin was when she got so much grief for not knowing the Bush Doctrine. Hell, I didn't know it either. You're either with us or against us? Bring 'em on? We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud? The truth is that I still couldn't tell you. Nor could I really tell you about the Carter Doctrine or the Reagan Doctrine or any other doctrine more recent than the Monroe Doctrine. They never really meant all that much, did they? Every president has an underlying worldview, and that's about all we can expect. I think Obama has articulated his as well as anyone has.
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The Obama Doctrine Is to Not Have a Doctrine (Original Post) babylonsister May 2014 OP
Yeah, that's the problem Demeter May 2014 #1
Diabolical Insight, if I may say so myself. slingsam May 2014 #2
Whereas Dimson was in love with his own doctrine Blue Owl May 2014 #3
well, dick cheney feels he cant travel abroad. mopinko May 2014 #4
I can buy this. snot Jun 2014 #5
bush doctrine, babylonsistah.. Cha Jun 2014 #6

slingsam

(370 posts)
2. Diabolical Insight, if I may say so myself.
Sat May 31, 2014, 09:46 PM
May 2014

Aren't doctrines destroying religions? Didn't the Bush Doctrine...whatever it was.....destroy America?


OK...OK...just my last righteous rant for the day.

snot

(10,478 posts)
5. I can buy this.
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 12:39 AM
Jun 2014

That said, I'm deeply disappointed in Obama. Eschewing doctrines in favor of results could be great. But the results of his practice have been highly impracticable/ineffective/disastrous in certain areas. At best, he's allowed himself too often to be swayed by the 1% that their view is somehow best. E.g., the idea that we've GOT to save the banks that looted us, for example (pure cr*p; see, e.g., Wm. Blackwell). He need only have consulted those who PREDICTED the 2008 meltdown to get better advice; but he failed to do so.

Again, if his purported eschewment of doctrines had meant he opted in favor of what worked, we might be better off. Instead, it's meant he's split the baby between the 1% and other pressures.

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