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Good Morning, Dubya. Did you watch HBO last night? (Original Post) deminks Jun 2014 OP
What a fine, fine man. vanlassie Jun 2014 #1
unless you are gay or a woman dsc Jun 2014 #2
BOOM! 7962 Jun 2014 #6
+1! Denying others rights and advocating women be stoned for adultery isn't what I'd consider "fine" dorkzilla Jun 2014 #7
Reference? blackspade Jun 2014 #11
Here is one link dsc Jun 2014 #14
Thanks, but that was from 1995... blackspade Jun 2014 #16
really most politicians here felt education about gays in school dsc Jun 2014 #19
Do you not remember the mid 90s? blackspade Jun 2014 #22
I am a 46 year old gay man dsc Jun 2014 #23
An excellent summary of the virulent anti-gay 90s blackspade Jun 2014 #26
and did Clinton ever say anything remotely like that? dsc Jun 2014 #28
DOMA is not relatively anti-gay blackspade Jun 2014 #29
Exactly. Jamastiene Jun 2014 #15
Time? Scarsdale Jun 2014 #3
Wow ...they didn't extrajudicially execute him by drone? L0oniX Jun 2014 #4
Muhammad Yunus, 2006 Noble Peace Prize winner, was the man Cat was singing the tribute to. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #5
I never figured why people hate him PatrynXX Jun 2014 #8
Some claimed that... MarianJack Jun 2014 #10
He did and didn't abakan Jun 2014 #13
Certainly... MarianJack Jun 2014 #17
There weren't in Hitler's paintings either dsc Jun 2014 #20
Or apparently George Bush's either.... abakan Jun 2014 #21
I would hardly equate Cat Stevens and Adolph Hitler! MarianJack Jun 2014 #24
I am not comparing them dsc Jun 2014 #25
K&R for a great man. n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #9
Aside from advocating for the death of someone who said mean things about Islam tritsofme Jun 2014 #12
Too bad he became a religious kook. tabasco Jun 2014 #18
He's a homophobic & misogynist piece of shit mwrguy Jun 2014 #27
Loved listening to Cat Stevens songs and now Yusuf Islam's... thanks for the Cha Jun 2014 #30

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
7. +1! Denying others rights and advocating women be stoned for adultery isn't what I'd consider "fine"
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 11:07 AM
Jun 2014

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
11. Reference?
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 12:42 PM
Jun 2014

All the references I could find relate to libel lawsuits that he either won or were settled with apologies.

Care to elaborate?

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
16. Thanks, but that was from 1995...
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 01:26 PM
Jun 2014

And the quote attributed is not referenced. Not saying that the article is wrong, but I'm curious as to the context especially since most pols and voters in this country had many of the same views.

Has Yusuf changed his thinking since? That is what I'm most interested in hearing.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
19. really most politicians here felt education about gays in school
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 01:54 PM
Jun 2014

was about recruiting gays in 1995?

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
22. Do you not remember the mid 90s?
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 03:11 PM
Jun 2014

Gay rights was not a position supported by any mainstream pols or voters.
In fact most of the anti-gay state constitutional amendments started up during this period.
On a national level, DOMA and 'Don't Ask Don't Tell' were accepted policies.
And education about gays in school? Not an ounce of support. So yes, I would say your question is more of a statement.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
23. I am a 46 year old gay man
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 04:21 PM
Jun 2014

so yes, I do remember the mid 1990's and no I don't really recall politicians going round saying that teaching about gay history in school would lead to a loss of innocence.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
26. An excellent summary of the virulent anti-gay 90s
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 10:14 PM
Jun 2014
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/04/how-america-got-past-the-anti-gay-politics-of-the-90s/266976/

Here in KY gay teachers were considered a threat to students. Gay history wasn't even on the radar. Major pols in both parties supported limiting gay rights just like those at the national level.

My point is that comments by Yusuf in 1995 were common across the political spectrum.
Do you consider Bill Clinton anti-gay today? He certainly was in the 1990s.
People change, some in the most surprising ways.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
28. and did Clinton ever say anything remotely like that?
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 09:43 AM
Jun 2014

that is my point. Even relatively anti gay politicians didn't say those things.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
29. DOMA is not relatively anti-gay
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 01:09 AM
Jun 2014

It's worse.

Islam's statement was his 'opinion' at the time.
Clinton's support and signing of a law set back gay marriage rights a generation.

So which is more extreme to you? An ex-pop stars admittedly shitty opinion or a president supporting a law that denies recognition and legal rights to gay couples?

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
15. Exactly.
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 01:24 PM
Jun 2014

I cannot believe people are conveniently overlooking that fact. Wait, it's DU. Yes, I can believe that. It is par for the course on DU. Some days, I miss UnRec.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
5. Muhammad Yunus, 2006 Noble Peace Prize winner, was the man Cat was singing the tribute to.
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 10:50 AM
Jun 2014

FYI.



Yunus is a Bangladeshi social entrepreneur, banker, economist and civil society leader who was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for founding the Grameen Bank and pioneering the concepts of microcredit and microfinance. Wikipedia

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
8. I never figured why people hate him
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 11:37 AM
Jun 2014

He's as much a Terrorist as John Lennon was.

I suspect the reasoning is craven Christians talk about the end of the world and how peace will cause the end of the world and they keep pushing it off. Not sure if I wanna be working against God's Will. Always find it interesting how people who are Jewish are more willing to talk to those who are peace loving Muslim's than those of the crazies. But so called Christians don't. Yet they root for a Mormon.

Okay whatever and I love his newer music.

abakan

(1,815 posts)
13. He did and didn't
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 12:46 PM
Jun 2014

Source:IMBD
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0828310/bio

Universally derided in 1989 when he allegedly went on record supporting the Ayatollah Khomeini's death sentence against The Satanic Verses author Salman Rushdie. Stevens's records were burned and taken out of stores, and many radio stations permanently boycotted his music. Nearly a decade later, Stevens claimed he was highly misquoted, that he didn't support the Ayatollah's sentence. Rather, he merely reiterated the Koran's teachings about those who "defame the prophet." Stevens says he bears no ill will towards Rushdie, and did not wish for him to be killed.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
17. Certainly...
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 01:43 PM
Jun 2014

...there was NOTHING in his works that would support any notion that he'd advocate murder!

PEACE!

dsc

(52,152 posts)
25. I am not comparing them
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 08:27 PM
Jun 2014

but I am just saying using art to judge the person isn't such a great idea.

tritsofme

(17,370 posts)
12. Aside from advocating for the death of someone who said mean things about Islam
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 12:43 PM
Jun 2014

Which would clearly be a measured and proportional response to Salman Rushdie's "crime"...

His music has always been good.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
30. Loved listening to Cat Stevens songs and now Yusuf Islam's... thanks for the
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 01:30 AM
Jun 2014

news, deminks. And, the reminder of how wonderful it is not to have to have W in our lives anymore.

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