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9/11 happened under your despicable watch.
Go Cheney yourself!
Octafish
(55,745 posts)malaise
(268,850 posts)marmar
(77,066 posts)malaise
(268,850 posts)The prison swap. We know what that means - he's despicable for being black and winning back to backmelections
RKP5637
(67,101 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)He is one who took advantage of the "new Pearl Harbor."
http://www.oilempire.us/pnac.html
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)PNAC brings to mind a remark by Sir Winston Churchill: Something about an idea so stupid only an intellectual could have thought of it.
Auggie
(31,156 posts)JHB
(37,158 posts)...so they could carry out their jerk-off fantasies.
Bush's selection was their wet dream.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Jim Lobe
AlterNet, May 18, 2003
What would you do if you wanted to topple Saddam Hussein, but your intelligence agencies couldn't find the evidence to justify a war?
A follower of Leo Strauss may just hire the "right" kind of men to get the job done people with the intellect, acuity, and, if necessary, the political commitment, polemical skills, and, above all, the imagination to find the evidence that career intelligence officers could not detect.
The "right" man for Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, suggests Seymour Hersh in his recent New Yorker article entitled 'Selective Intelligence,' was Abram Shulsky, director of the Office of Special Plans (OSP) an agency created specifically to find the evidence of WMDs and/or links with Al Qaeda, piece it together, and clinch the case for the invasion of Iraq.
Like Wolfowitz, Shulsky is a student of an obscure German Jewish political philosopher named Leo Strauss who arrived in the United States in 1938. Strauss taught at several major universities, including Wolfowitz and Shulsky's alma mater, the University of Chicago, before his death in 1973.
Strauss is a popular figure among the neoconservatives. Adherents of his ideas include prominent figures both within and outside the administration. They include 'Weekly Standard' editor William Kristol; his father and indeed the godfather of the neoconservative movement, Irving Kristol; the new Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence, Stephen Cambone, a number of senior fellows at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) (home to former Defense Policy Board chairman Richard Perle and Lynne Cheney), and Gary Schmitt, the director of the influential Project for the New American Century (PNAC), which is chaired by Kristol the Younger.
Strauss' philosophy is hardly incidental to the strategy and mindset adopted by these men as is obvious in Shulsky's 1999 essay titled "Leo Strauss and the World of Intelligence (By Which We Do Not Mean Nous)" (in Greek philosophy the term nous denotes the highest form of rationality). As Hersh notes in his article, Shulsky and his co-author Schmitt "criticize America's intelligence community for its failure to appreciate the duplicitous nature of the regimes it deals with, its susceptibility to social-science notions of proof, and its inability to cope with deliberate concealment." They argued that Strauss's idea of hidden meaning, "alerts one to the possibility that political life may be closely linked to deception. Indeed, it suggests that deception is the norm in political life, and the hope, to say nothing of the expectation, of establishing a politics that can dispense with it is the exception."
Rule One: Deception
CONTINUED...
http://www.alternet.org/story/15935/leo_strauss'_philosophy_of_deception
In complete agreement with your evaluation of PNAC and its people. Turds like Bolton wouldn't be anywhere without someone picking up their tab. Don't mean to argue, Jack Rabbit, but they don't have the brains.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)Don't mistake them for George W. Bush. He has no brains.
Leo Strauss wasn't a dummy, either. What we don't like about him is his contempt for democracy. He believes in rule by an elite aristocracy that must use deception on those they rule in order to maintain their power. Where did Strauss get an idea like that? He got it straight out of Plato. I actually find it interesting how Strauss applies Platonic principles to the modern world, but I, for one, would not want to live either Plato's Republic or Strauss' version of it.
The linked article's assertion that Plato was more concerned about the moral character of his elites than Strauss is not quite true. Plato's morality might not be recognized as all that moral today. Plato makes it sound good and he's just better at that than Strauss. Nevertheless, I have never seen an "aristocracy" that, far from being rule by the best, wasn't anything else that rule by self-interested tyrants: consider Roman nobles, feudal barons, the landed aristocracy of the eighteenth century that was really nothing more than feudal barons who had outlived feudalism, and finally, the modern industrialists and financiers who are presently making a go at an end run around democracy. All of those "aristocratic" classes produced or would like to produce an oppressive tyranny where the silver class must be used to protect the gold class from the bronze masses. Plato's utopia would have been no better. I don't hold out any hope for a Marxist/Leninist utopia. All of these utopian visions descended into tyranny.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)Would have been the same response. I sure wish the liberal media actually existed.
mountain grammy
(26,608 posts)bigtree
(85,984 posts)John Bolton's Iran-Contra past
from David Corn:
Bolton's record as Assistant AG for the Office of Legislative Affairs in 1986 and 1987 merits special scrutiny. He "tried to torpedo" Sen. John Kerry's inquiry into allegations of contra drug smuggling and gunrunning, a committee aide says. When Kerry requested information from the Justice Department, Bolton's office gave it the long stall, a Kerry aide notes. In fact, says another Congressional aide, Bolton's staff worked actively with the Republican senators who opposed Kerry's efforts.
In 1986 this chum of Meese also refused to give Peter Rodino, then chair of he House Judiciary Committee, documents concerning the Iran/contra scandal and Meese's involvement in it, Later, when Congressional investigators were probing charges that the Justice Department had delayed an inquiry into gunrunning to the contras, Bolton was again the spoiler . . .
kairos12
(12,850 posts)malaise
(268,850 posts)dballance
(5,756 posts)I didn't know about that at all until you just posted it. Thanks for giving me more ammo to use against the GOP hypocrites.
On Edit:
This was intended as a reply to Octafish's post. I totally misfired in clicking on the proper link.
Capt.Rocky300
(1,005 posts)family get out of the country on charter jets when the airspace was closed to the rest of us?
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)IOKIYAR. That's got to be in the Bible somewhere, although I haven't been able to find it myself. It must be in the Book of Falwell, a part of the Old Testament written in invisible ink that only right wing fundies can read.
malaise
(268,850 posts)There will be a day of reckoning - trust me on that.
kairos12
(12,850 posts)history of mankind--Benghazi.
malaise
(268,850 posts)The truth is that the Benghazi 9/11 was meant to eclipse the real one because you know Bush. Cheney and the other war criminals kept America safe.
kairos12
(12,850 posts)kept America scared, not safe.
spanone
(135,814 posts)fuck him....!!!!!!